No deals for the Series 4

Rogifan

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No one is running any deals for the Series 4. Even Best Buy open boxes are only $20 cheaper. Not sure if this means the Watch is selling really well or Apple has chosen not to allow any discounts. :(
 
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Relentless Power

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No one is running any deals for the Series 4. Even Best Buy open boxes are only $20 cheaper. Not sure if this means the Watch is selling really well or Apple has chosen not to allow any discounts. :(
It could be partially due to some constraint. In my area, Series 4 is still fairly limited. Apple’s overall production restraints seemingly has been a burden this year, especially the stainless model.

Also, we can’t assume the Series 4 isn’t selling well, just because we don’t see discounts from retailers. I think it is doing very well, but we also can’t expect to have discounted prices either, maybe that could be a sign that the Series 4 is selling very well, with the constraint this year compared to previous years.
 

gwhizkids

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How often do you Porsche’s on sale? Pretty much never.

If a product is selling well, there is no need to discount it.
 

Relentless Power

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How often do you Porsche’s on sale? Pretty much never.

If a product is selling well, there is no need to discount it.
Nothing personal, Car analogies are some of the worst compared to tech, and not really relevant in this situation. For the record, Almost all of the previous Gen Watches were discounted during the holidays by third party retailers. This year, it’s been fairly minimized with the Series 4, likely due to supply constraint. But yes, it has been selling strong evidently, especially with the redesign. Even if it is discounted, it doesn’t have to be during the holiday season, especially when Apple’s sales are at their peak in the fourth quarter for various products.
 
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Azathoth123

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I would guess that discounts will appear after the holidays, but maybe not much because of the seemingly high demand. I’ve had a person want to buy my 40mm SS gold off my wrist in an Apple store!
 

Rogifan

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Right I suspect eight the Series 4 is selling very well or is heavily supply constrained. I just thought it was interesting that NO 3rd party retailer was offering any deals.
 

MisterGrinch

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You have to be resourceful and watch the sales. Here in Canada I just got my S4 gps + cellular 40% off.

Sportchek here in Canada just had a sale on their gift cards for 20% off (available through another retailer) and I bought $750 CDN in gift cards. Therefore bought the watch for 20% or $137 off.

Then this week they have yet another promotion that gives Apple Watch purchasers 50x the rebate points (triangle rewards). So I returned the watch and immediately bought it back and got another $137 in rebate money.

So in the end I paid about $415 CDN ($310 USD) for a $689 CDN watch. :)
 

harriska2

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Best Buy gives you 5% back (in coupons?) and they have a huge selection. So the $400 watch is $380, assuming you buy other stuff from Best Buy? We just got the Nike watch with reflective band yesterday. Super nice.
 

The Oak

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Keep an eye for some carrier type promotions ... get an XR and then Apple Watch is $100 off ... totally made this up - but you get the idea.

Otherwise, a stand alone "sale" for the Apple Watch Series 4 will probably be hard to come by.
 

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Keep an eye for some carrier type promotions ... get an XR and then Apple Watch is $100 off ... totally made this up - but you get the idea.

Otherwise, a stand alone "sale" for the Apple Watch Series 4 will probably be hard to come by.
Because it's awesome? ;)
 

gwhizkids

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Nothing personal, Car analogies are some of the worst compared to tech, and not really relevant in this situation. For the record, Almost all of the previous Gen Watches were discounted during the holidays by third party retailers. This year, it’s been fairly minimized with the Series 4, likely due to supply constraint. But yes, it has been selling strong evidently, especially with the redesign. Even if it is discounted, it doesn’t have to be during the holiday season, especially when Apple’s sales are at their peak in the fourth quarter for various products.
Have to disagree: economics is economics, be the product cars or wrist worn computers. If a product is selling, no one is going to discount it, as there is no need: the demand curve already meets the supply curve at the present price. Now, of course there can be exceptions, such as clearance sales, but those have different objectives than pure profit maximization.

I have owned an Apple Watch since Series 0. I would challenge you to produce evidence of product specific discounts for any then-current year Apple Watch during the holiday season following that model’s release. You might be able to produce a few (particularly for sport models) but nothing brand wide. The discounts are typically made on the previous years’ model.
 

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Why would Apple put a brand new device on sale when they can clear stock of the older devices first.
 

Relentless Power

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Have to disagree: economics is economics, be the product cars or wrist worn computers.
That’s perfectly fine you disagree, however, I’m not interested in economics. I simply stated that your comparison was poor in terms of cars versus the Apple Watch, let’s not turn this into some off-topic semantic debate over nothing. And my reply wasn’t just pointed at you, the fact is, other members use cars in comparing Tech, some examples are relevant, some of them are not, yours was rather useless comparing a ‘Porsche’ to a superflorous tech watch, it’s just my opinion.

If a product is selling, no one is going to discount it, as there is no need: the demand curve already meets the supply curve at the present price.
I would say this is kind of a blanket statement, but it depends on the product. iPhones tend to be more discounted pending the promotion or stipulations regarding the discount, but certain products like the AirPods for example, those were extremely popular for 16 months straight where they were not discounted, because the demand was more than Apple could physically produce at the time.

I would challenge you to produce evidence of product specific discounts for any then-current year Apple Watch during the holiday season following that model’s release.
I think you misconstrued part of my quote, therefore I bolded one of the words in my quote below for you. Which I’m referring to previous Gen watches that were discounted on the year of after its initial release, for example,{The Series 3 would be discounted for 2018, as the Series 1/2 would be discounted in 2017, etc.} Or maybe I didn’t explain this thoroughly enough, either way, that’s what I meant.

Hence:

Almost all of the previous Gen Watches were discounted during the holidays by third party retailers.
 
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gwhizkids

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That’s perfectly fine you disagree, however, I’m not interested in economics. I simply stated that your comparison was poor in terms of cars versus the Apple Watch, let’s not turn this into some off-topic semantic debate over nothing. And my reply wasn’t just pointed at you, the fact is, other members use cars in comparing Tech, some examples are relevant, some of them are not, yours was rather useless comparing a ‘Porsche’ to a superflorous tech watch, it’s just my opinion.



I would say this is kind of a blanket statement, but it depends on the product. iPhones tend to be more discounted pending the promotion or stipulations regarding the discount, but certain products like the AirPods for example, those were extremely popular for 16 months straight where they were not discounted, because the demand was more than Apple could physically produce at the time.



I think you misconstrued part of my quote, therefore I bolded one of the words in my quote below for you. Which I’m referring to previous Gen watches that were discounted on the year of after its initial release, for example,{The Series 3 would be discounted for 2018, as the Series 1/2 would be discounted in 2017, etc.} Or maybe I didn’t explain this thoroughly enough, either way, that’s what I meant.

Hence:
You’re a somewhat sanctimonious person, aren’t you? And you more or less have made my point about the use of discounts to clear previous generations of devices. Which is perfectly consistent with what we are seeing here.

And my point about cars - or Rolex Submariners or caviar or any other good which needs no promotional dollars to sell - remains accurate.
 
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Relentless Power

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And you more or less have made my point about the use of discounts to clear previous generations of devices.
[Snipped the drivel]-

Actually, I clarified the differences of what I was referring to based on the year the previous Watch model was selling, rather that be my mistake or you inadvertently misunderstanding it, has been addressed. As for me disagreeing with you, it’s part of discussion, for whatever reason, you refuted me with frivolous semantics.

And my point about cars - or Rolex Submariners or caviar or any other good which needs no promotional dollars to sell - remains accurate.
Rolex? caviar? Can we merge discussion back to the Series 4? Again, your examples are far fetched and irrelevant to the topic, for whatever reason, you’re disgruntled with the fact someone disagrees with you based off a poor example you provided, again, not looking to argue with you, I simply disagreed.

Your points made in relation to the watch thus far is useless. Moving on.
 

gwhizkids

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Deleted as not worth the effort of addressing an obviously more intelligent person than me.
 
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I think car analogies are fine as a way of casting a more familiar light on an unfamiliar situation. There are plenty of times where they can be used to illustrate basic rules of supply and demand.

Right now, Apple is pivoting from a company relying on hit product after hit product to a company relying on a steady stream of income from its platform as a service. To use a car analogy, it’s as if BMW were becoming a combination of Uber and the Department of Transportation while still selling cars (I admit that stretch hurt a bit).

However, in this particular situation it’s interestimg that Apple Watch Series 4 seems to be a runaway hit as a product that has implications for Apple not only disrupting traditional products like mechanical watches, but also entering healthcare as a service at some point (they already have a form of AppleCare for employees).

So I guess there are no deals on Series 4 because Apple is selling them as fast as they can make them, and they will need to eventually increase manufacturing capacity if they really are serious about healthcare as a service.
 
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The interesting thing is that Rogifan posts on every website and is not really asking an honest question.

We used to call this trolling.

I’ll likely get banned just for stating the obvious.
 
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Rogifan

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The interesting thing is that Rogifan posts on every website and is not really asking an honest question.

We used to call this trolling.

I’ll likely get banned just for stating the obvious.
Not sure what you mean? How is this thread trolling?
 

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