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mark28

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I think Apple forgot to put earbuds in my box. How do I proof that I didn't receive earbuds with my iPad 3?

Will Apple be difficult with this?
 
Ok. I expected that there would be earbuds since I got earbuds with all my Apple products except for my Macbook Pro.
 
Yes, no earbuds with the iPad. But you'd be better off buying your own higher quality buds.
 
Apple includes earbuds only with iPods (for music) and iPhones (for music/taking calls). iPad is a computer, not a music player or a handset.

I don't know about that. Often I use my iPad just for listening to music with my earbuds connected, and it does a fine job in doing that. So it is also a music player, among other things it does. So one could argue it deserved to have basic earbuds included with it.
 
I don't know about that. Often I use my iPad just for listening to music with my earbuds connected, and it does a fine job in doing that. So it is also a music player, among other things it does. So one could argue it deserved to have basic earbuds included with it.

Well, using that logic, one can also argue that all the MacBooks need a pair of earbuds, because one can potentially be listening to music on those.

iPhones have the headset because it's directly related to their primary function (taking calls); iPods have earbuds because those are directly related to their primary function (listening to music/podcasts). The iPad is neither. It's a non pocketable device whose primary function is not to be a handset or a music player.
 
well stated...

Well, using that logic, one can also argue that all the MacBooks need a pair of earbuds, because one can potentially be listening to music on those.

iPhones have the headset because it's directly related to their primary function (taking calls); iPods have earbuds because those are directly related to their primary function (listening to music/podcasts). The iPad is neither. It's a non pocketable device whose primary function is not to be a handset or a music player.
 
They are cheap buds anyway...much better to buy your own

You know I find the standard apple earplugs better than others of have tried. I gave away a set of skull cap and the Klipsch I bought just have no bottom end.
 
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Yes, why not? There would be nothing wrong with that.

Other than paying for extraneous stuff that'll sit in a drawer. MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod nano... Do I really need four sets of earbuds???? One can always buy more earbuds if needed, so better to only include when they're related to the primary function of the device.

Just my opinion. You're welcome to yours and to send your suggestion to apple. Maybe you can convince them to include headphones with every device sold. Good luck with that.

In any event, this is all irrelevant to the OP's incorrect assumption that they're included with the iPad. They aren't and never have been. Prove to apple you didn't get them all you want, they'll just shrug and say "So......?" :D
 
Other than paying for extraneous stuff that'll sit in a drawer. MacBook, iPad, iPhone, iPod nano... Do I really need four sets of earbuds???? One can always buy more earbuds if needed, so better to only include when they're related to the primary function of the device.

Just my opinion. You're welcome to yours and to send your suggestion to apple. Maybe you can convince them to include headphones with every device sold. Good luck with that.

I can buy a macbook without having anything else made by Apple.
Your reasoning applies to phones and pods too. I could easily state that in 2012 you're supposed to have your own headphones, but that's not the point. Yet you see 90% of them using those crappy white pieces of plastic.
 
Well, using that logic, one can also argue that all the MacBooks need a pair of earbuds, because one can potentially be listening to music on those.

iPhones have the headset because it's directly related to their primary function (taking calls); iPods have earbuds because those are directly related to their primary function (listening to music/podcasts). The iPad is neither. It's a non pocketable device whose primary function is not to be a handset or a music player.

Using that logic, my TV should have also included ear buds.
 
A pair of $10 iLuv earbuds sound at least twice as good as the ones they bundle with iPods/iPhones.

iLuv is much worse than the default Apple earbuds.

They are cheap buds anyway...much better to buy your own[

You know I find the standard apple earplugs better than others of have tried. I gave away a set of skull cap and the Klipsch I bought just have no bottom end.

The Klipsch are supposed to be balanced. Not like the Beats (which are junk) which are basically junk earphones with an EQ for increased bass. Klipsch and higher end audio equipment tend to go for a fully balanced audio output and that makes some types of music sound bad on the bottom end but that is the way the artist/studio intended it to be.

To the OP, the iPad never included earbuds. Not the original iPad or iPad 2 either. For an iPod, bundling earbuds helps you get started with listening to music. Everything you need to listen to music with an iPod is already included minus the computer and actual music content. For an iPhone, it's also an iPod and that was one of the biggest features. It was first marketed as an iPod, a phone and Internet device. As for an iPad, it's big enough that most people don't carry it around in their pocket as an iPod-device.
 
Yes, why not? There would be nothing wrong with that.

Sure. There'd also be nothing wrong with Apple giving away free candy to every iPad or Mac buyer. Not sure how much it'd serve the product itself, but that'd be a nice gesture.

Not trying to be snarky, or anything, but I fail to understand why Apple not including earphones with the iPad is such a big deal. Am I the only human on the planet who owns and uses a non Apple pair(s) of earphones?

So, to wrap it up:
-Would it be nice if the iPad or Macbooks included a pair of earphones? Sure.
-Is it needed (i.e. essential) to these devices? Absolutely not.
 
Sure. There'd also be nothing wrong with Apple giving away free candy to every iPad or Mac buyer. Not sure how much it'd serve the product itself, but that'd be a nice gesture.

Not trying to be snarky, or anything, but I fail to understand why Apple not including earphones with the iPad is such a big deal. Am I the only human on the planet who owns and uses a non Apple pair(s) of earphones?

So, to wrap it up:
-Would it be nice if the iPad or Macbooks included a pair of earphones? Sure.
-Is it needed (i.e. essential) to these devices? Absolutely not.

I have never stated it's needed, or that it's a big deal, not sure what are you quoting. As I said, if I expect everyone to own a pair of earphones, then Apple's decision to include them in their phones and media players is very arguable.
An iPad is a media consumption device, just like every computer out there, and just like an iPod or iPhone, for instance. Depending on the use, earphones could be useless to an iPod and an iPhone user, just like an iPad or MacBook user could consider them essential, or if you like needed. It's subjective, anyone would love to see something they're interested in bundled with the product.

I'd like a case to be included in my MacBook package, but just because Apple doesn't do it, that doesn't mean it's wrong or anything. So yes, I'd like to see quality earphones in every Mac, that'd be a plus. Absolutely nothing wrong about it.
 
I have never stated it's needed, or that it's a big deal, not sure what are you quoting.

I was referring to this.
Well, using that logic, one can also argue that all the MacBooks need a pair of earbuds, because one can potentially be listening to music on those.
Yes, why not? There would be nothing wrong with that.

As I said, if I expect everyone to own a pair of earphones, then Apple's decision to include them in their phones and media players is very arguable.
An iPad is a media consumption device, just like every computer out there, and just like an iPod or iPhone, for instance. Depending on the use, earphones could be useless to an iPod and an iPhone user, just like an iPad or MacBook user could consider them essential, or if you like needed. It's subjective, anyone would love to see something they're interested in bundled with the product.

I'd like a case to be included in my MacBook package, but just because Apple doesn't do it, that doesn't mean it's wrong or anything. So yes, I'd like to see quality earphones in every Mac, that'd be a plus. Absolutely nothing wrong about it.

It's not about expectancy. It's about being efficient in including only those accessories that are directly related to the primary function of the device. iPods have earphones/sync cable; iPhones have headset/charger/sync cable; the iPad (akin to Macbooks) has a charger and a sync cable. It is not a good enough reason that "iPad is also a music player" to include the earphones with it. By this logic, all Macs should come bundled with USB, Firewire, Ethernet, and Thunderbolt cables, because those might be needed by some users.

Anyhow, I don't think anyone would say "no" to extra accessories, but I'd hazard a guess that a whole bunch of people would say "no" to the product price going up because of extra/unneeded accessories. As Steve Jobs once rightly said, "products are packages that have certain trade offs".
It's all about choosing the right things to include in that package. What do I mean by "right things"? Well, it's those accessories/features that would serve the most benefit to most users.
 
I was referring to this.

Indeed, that doesn't add up.

It's not about expectancy. It's about being efficient in including only those accessories that are directly related to the primary function of the device. iPods have earphones/sync cable; iPhones have headset/charger/sync cable; the iPad (akin to Macbooks) has a charger and a sync cable. It is not a good enough reason that "iPad is also a music player" to include the earphones with it. By this logic, all Macs should come bundled with USB, Firewire, Ethernet, and Thunderbolt cables, because those might be needed by some users.

As I said, it's all very subjective.
If I have an iPad to be able to listen to music and watch movies on it, it's obvious that I consider earphones to be needed.
I can use an iPod (touch) to surf the web, game and access my cloud without even thinking of listening to music (indeed, that's what I do). I can, too, use my phone without any headset. Most of those who need them have their own quality ones, instead of those horrible Apple's ones.
A charger, obviously, is of primary importance, as without it my product would cease to function. :rolleyes: Earphones are accessories, so that's really off topic.
What you state about cables is off topic too, as external accessories using I/O are expected to come with their own cables.

Anyhow, I don't think anyone would say "no" to extra accessories, but I'd hazard a guess that a whole bunch of people would say "no" to the product price going up because of extra/unneeded accessories. As Steve Jobs once rightly said, "products are packages that have certain trade offs".
It's all about choosing the right things to include in that package. What do I mean by "right things"? Well, it's those accessories/features that would serve the most benefit to most users.

I have never touched my iPod/iPhone earphones. I'd need other accessories, such as a decent case, for example.
If Apple added those earphones to the iPad package, I'm sure you'd totally agree with that, coming up with a poor supported argument, again. But that's just my impression.
 
This thread really should have stopped as soon as the first person said that ear buds aren't included. sigh.
 
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