True but you never posted a corroborating source.Beat you to the punch on that one. Look at post #42
Not that I don't trust you.
The ATi card does keep all of the shaders of its older siblings though.
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No High-End Video Card for the next Mac Pro
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Not that I don't trust you.
Time will tell. Basically the RV670 is a shrinked down R600 but with improved Anisotropic Filtering, Anti-Aliasing and Universal Video Decoder (UVD) included in the package.
Regardless, both cards will be cheaper than the current high-end, while still offering near high-end performance.
I'm sure that's what the GL cards will be upgraded to, but it still leaves open what the new top end consumer card will be.
Actually, Murphy's Law would have Apple offering the 2900xt as the BTO video card.
I've started using the Mac Pro feedback form to suggest that the G92 would be a better option for Apple both price-wise and heat-wise. Will they listen? Probably not.
Actually, Murphy's Law would have Apple offering the 2900xt as the BTO video card.
I've started using the Mac Pro feedback form to suggest that the G92 would be a better option for Apple both price-wise and heat-wise. Will they listen? Probably not.
Funny, considering that the RV670 is using less power, dissipating less heat and cheaper compared to the G92. After all, it is 55nm versus 65nm.
As far as I am aware, the R600 is also at End of Life and not being produced anymore.
It's not at all about "...glad that my platform sucks at application X." Rather, it's about being glad that development is driven by application, L, F & A, which happen to be the apps I do need.
8800GT looks like the real deal!
Boot Daily did a benchtest with the 8800GT.
As you can see by the chart, it comes pretty close in performance to the 8800GTX (if you can believe them).
Boot Daily says, "In all honesty, we'd really have a hard time recommending any other card than the 8800GT for purchase at this time – not even the GTX. Its price, performance and power use make the GTX look like a relic. Moving to the 65nm process has really paid some nice dividends for both NVIDIA and those whom are seeking the best graphic card out right now.
Some may rag on the 8800GT since it doesn’t have DX10.1 support but until we know of a game that’s worth buying which supports 10.1, We certainly wouldn’t worry to much about it and at this point would far from consider it to be a deal-breaker at all."
http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=849&Itemid=51
I JUST ADDED TWO MORE GRAPHS FROM VR-ZONE.
Boot Daily did a benchtest with the 8800GT.
As you can see by the chart, it comes pretty close in performance to the 8800GTX (if you can believe them).
Boot Daily says, "In all honesty, we'd really have a hard time recommending any other card than the 8800GT for purchase at this time – not even the GTX. Its price, performance and power use make the GTX look like a relic. Moving to the 65nm process has really paid some nice dividends for both NVIDIA and those whom are seeking the best graphic card out right now.
Some may rag on the 8800GT since it doesn’t have DX10.1 support but until we know of a game that’s worth buying which supports 10.1, We certainly wouldn’t worry to much about it and at this point would far from consider it to be a deal-breaker at all."
http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=849&Itemid=51
I JUST ADDED TWO MORE GRAPHS FROM VR-ZONE.
WOW. That thing is a monster!
But, that only leads me to believe that Apple won't use it, just because it is that good and that new. We'll be stuck with something inferior probably. Doesn't make sense (for me at least) to count on this card in the Mac Pro, as I'll only be working myself up only to be disappointed.
Regardless, I will find a way to make it work somehow. Someone figured out how to make the 8800GTX work in OSX (albeit a nonstandard OSX). Stands to reason those same folks will fashion a driver for this card.
The internet is buzzing about this card.
Still, I submit the Mac Pro feedback asking for this card. I hope others are too. With the lower price and lower heat dissipation, Apple would be fools not to.
That thing is a monster!But, that only leads me to believe that Apple won't use it, just because it is that good and that new. We'll be stuck with something inferior probably. Doesn't make sense (for me at least) to count on this card in the Mac Pro, as I'll only be working myself up only to be disappointed.
Regardless, I will find a way to make it work somehow. Someone figured out how to make the 8800GTX work in OSX (albeit a nonstandard OSX). Stands to reason those same folks will fashion a driver for this card.
The internet is buzzing about this card.
Still, I submit the Mac Pro feedback asking for this card. I hope others are too. With the lower price and lower heat dissipation, Apple would be fools not to.
The 8800GT is at nearly 8800GTX levels of performance but single slot, takes only 105W of power, etc.
But supposedly the RV670 / HD3800 series is aimed to match it so this'll be interesting times
Considering Apple already has a contract with ATI, i wouldn't be surprised if the RV670 gets selected.
But supposedly the RV670 / HD3800 series is aimed to match it so this'll be interesting times
Considering Apple already has a contract with ATI, i wouldn't be surprised if the RV670 gets selected.
That's my worry. The 8800GT looks to be a winner.
ATI hasn't been able to match up with nVidia in a long time. I seriously doubt they can do it now.
On paper ATI video cards look good but when the benchmarks come out comparing the HD 3870 to the 8800GT, I'll bet nVidia spanks good ol' ATI once again.
Once again we will get a crappy ATI card.
Submit Mac Pro feedback to Apple, guys. It's the only way to get our voices heard. Sure, they probably throw all of mine away, but there is strength in numbers. Tell Apple what you want!
Topper, I also believe that ATI won't step up to the plate in their next incarnation. They have fallen so far behind in both the video card and processor arena. And I'm no Intel or nVidia fanboy either. The PC to my left has an x1800xt and an AMD 3800+ X2 in it. My money goes where the performance is. At the time, it was AMD. Intel's technology and 45nm process just makes me shake my head in disbelief at how good it's going to be. Likewise with the 8800GT. A card at that price point, form-factor, and thermal output slicing through its elders like that is simply amazing.
Potentially a very powerful, yet cool and quiet computer.
I think it is too late.
Apple has already put in the orders and the video cards are most likely already in the computers and ready to go.
I applaud Apple for not shipping whatever ATI and NVidia decide to manufacture as part of their pissing contest, resulting in a noisy, 800W PC. But on the other hand, the MacBook Pro is a notebook with double the performance of the latest iMac, so I don't think one can argue that cooling is the issue.
I'd rather they offer a range of cards so that the customer can choose which fits his needs, and tolerance, best.
True, but OEMs know of what's coming out before we do. They may very well have placed orders for these new cards as they have the intel chips.