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No iOS 5 for iPhone 3GS?
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That's open to interpretation. Likely your phone means 'your model of phone' in which case the iPhone 3GS shipped with 3.0 even though some users' phones ship to them with 4.x. One would hope that take the plain English approach though.
I don't think it is a big deal. They will probably offer a iPhone 4 for 49 or 99 to replace the 3GS. If yall want iOS 5 to be a big deal and update then I can see why the 3GS wouldn't be able to support it. It has a slower processor and less ram.
Personally, I don't really care!
Of course there will be updates when needed, they can't strand X number of people using that phone, what is it a couple a hundred?
People its time to let go of those dinosaurs!
Good excuse to upgrade!
Of course there will be updates when needed, they can't strand X number of people using that phone, what is it a couple a hundred?
People its time to let go of those dinosaurs!
Good excuse to upgrade!
Do we know what the breakdown of iPhone sales is? How do we know the $49 iPhone 3GS isn't flying off shelves?
Yes, I did notice that after I posted, and in fact I edited my post you were posting this
They sold me the phone with a promise of receiving OS updates in the future, even going so far as to point it out as a competitive advantage over Android, telling me those guys don't receive updates after a while.
According to their own release history, I should get 1 year of OS updates after the end-of-sale of my model, which hasn't been reached yet (it is still sold, iPhone 3G got a little less than a year of updates after it's EOS, iPhone got 1 year, as it stands, iPhone 3GS is going to get none).
So, yes, they do owe me. What is it ? If they are no better than the Android folks, should I just go buy an Android phone then ? Is this what Apple is telling us ?
The thing is, they do promise updates in their license agreement - as has been posted on here earlier, they promise to give free updates up to and including the next major release to the one that was shipped on your phone. The iPhone 3GS ships with 4.x so that means they are promising to provide updates to 5.x
It doesn't affect me as I've got an iPhone 4, but it's a bit disingenuous to call the 3GS a dinosaur: You can go to an Apple store today and buy a 3GS brand new and (screen apart) it's not actually that different inside to the iPhone 4
Personally, I think the story's inaccurate and it's the 3G that won't get any iOS 5 love
Your commet does not compute. Apple provids customers with rapid ever advancing technology. You have the choice to purchase their technology at any point and time you like. If you like thier newer technology, you may purchase that if you like. They also offer you the choice of purchasing their older 3G technology at less cost. It's your choice to purchase it or not. There's no screwing going on here, only straight forward choices. If you don't like Apple's latest advanced technology, purchase a Windows phone and live in the past.
The one guy I know who opted for the 3GS over the 4 did so more cause his parents were bugging him to get a smartphone when he didn't really care for them that much and decided he could deal with paying 50 bux for one (but not 200). I really doubt he's going to care much about whether it gets an upgrade or not. He mostly just wants a phone anyways and the other stuff is "nice extra I guess".
Everyone else I know opted in for the 4. It seems the people who just want to pay 50 bux for the phone having a smartphone isn't really their highest priority, it just was cheap enough to justify for them.
Anyways, I can't believe people are surprised. I expected 3GS to run maybe a very gimped version of iOS5 (like what happened with the 3G last year), but honestly, I have to agree, maybe Apple decided it's best just not to support it rather than having a bunch of people complain about how slow their iphone got (shoot, my 3G was getting laggy on the previous iOS, never tried 4 on it but I got the 4 soon as it got out and sold the 3G with ios3 figuring people could upgrade if they want, or stay with the old iOS in case 4 didn't run well on the 3G).
Also, a huge +1 to people saying this is not forcing you to upgrade. Your phone will still do fine doing what you like doing with it. But if you want to eventually take advantage of new technologies and software, you'll have to upgrade. That's the way it always has been with technology, especially when it's young and has a lot it can advance. Maybe some of you are young and only experiencing computing now where the computer hardware isn't being advanced as fast and lasting longer for running new technologies, but I'll tell you when I was growing up, this was the norm with computers anyways. You want to run the new software, you have to have the new computers.
The 3G is already discontinued. They're not going to announce it twice. So your statement is the inaccurate one.
No, I wouldn't. The A4 shares a vast majority of its architecture with the processor in the 3GS. If it's built around the A4, it's built around the 3GS by extension. The A4 is simply a die shrink of the 3GS processor with some custom peripheral circuitry for things like power management.
From personal experience and I'm sure Apple knows this as well, people who are buying the $49 3GS's probably don't care.
People I know who paid for them only bought them cause it was an iPhone for $49, so now they can say they have an iPhone and that's it. Most of those people don't know much about technology or probably care about the upgrades. Hell, there was a woman working with me awhile back still running the original stock firmware on her 3GS and had 60+ uprades in her app store.
She purely used it for a phone and maybe downloaded some stuff from time to time but never put much else thought into the phone.
Also Apple is a company to make money, they don't have to offer any type of support other then maybe things that fall under warranty. They don't have to upgrade any of our phones, they could just release the iOS upgrades to the new phones each year and that's it.
People I know who paid for them only bought them cause it was an iPhone for $49, so now they can say they have an iPhone and that's it. Most of those people don't know much about technology or probably care about the upgrades. Hell, there was a woman working with me awhile back still running the original stock firmware on her 3GS and had 60+ uprades in her app store.
She purely used it for a phone and maybe downloaded some stuff from time to time but never put much else thought into the phone.
Also Apple is a company to make money, they don't have to offer any type of support other then maybe things that fall under warranty. They don't have to upgrade any of our phones, they could just release the iOS upgrades to the new phones each year and that's it.
Wow,
so apple is selling an iPhone today that they chose not to upgrade to iOS5. Words cannot express how ridiculous that sounds. I mean if any other company tried to do that they'd be castigated in the press.
I mean its a current product that will not get an upgrade - talk about consumer friendly
so apple is selling an iPhone today that they chose not to upgrade to iOS5. Words cannot express how ridiculous that sounds. I mean if any other company tried to do that they'd be castigated in the press.
I mean its a current product that will not get an upgrade - talk about consumer friendly
I didn't say the 3G was being obsoleted/discontinued again, I said that the 3G won't receive iOS 5 which may seem obvious but has never actually been announced officially AFAIK
There aren't really any issues with the iOS that the 3GS comes with. You still get a perfectly usable phone with a stable OS. When you buy a phone there is never any guarantee that you will receive a new software for it in the future. It is far from unheard of, especially if you take a look across the board at Android or any other phone OS.
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Well, it had to happen at some point, I just don't get why people are moaning?
I've had a 3GS since launch and so I've had 2 years of free, readily available and quality updates. Not many companies offer that (Valve is another that springs to mind) - so just be grateful!
And then for all the people who've just bought a 3GS, or are about to buy one, you can't deny you've been left out of the free iOS upgrade cycle, because you're buying the phone at its maximum potential - which is still a quality piece of kit. I see no reason to upgrade mine...yet
I've had a 3GS since launch and so I've had 2 years of free, readily available and quality updates. Not many companies offer that (Valve is another that springs to mind) - so just be grateful!
And then for all the people who've just bought a 3GS, or are about to buy one, you can't deny you've been left out of the free iOS upgrade cycle, because you're buying the phone at its maximum potential - which is still a quality piece of kit. I see no reason to upgrade mine...yet
The same could be said for ip4, but consider the consumer buying an iPhone and then hearing that apple is releasing a new OS, only to find out they can't get it, even though its a new phone.
I think it is surprising because (if true), Apple will only be supporting 1 generation back (5th-gen iPhone + iPhone 4), rather than the current THREE generations (iPhone 4, 3GS, sort of 3G).
IF this is true, one could buy a 3GS on June 5, the day before WWDC and not be able to operate the OS previewed on June 6. That kind of sucks! However, I will reserve judgement until that time...
I couldn't agree more. Basically you have a phone that's already got the upgrades, just because you were there when it actually received isn't Apples fault.
As has already been posted numerous times on this thread, Apple do make an explicit promise within the iPhone license agreement to update the firmware on your iPhone to all released versions up to and including the next major release, so it's not true to say there is no guarantee you will receive new software for your iPhone: Apple explicitly guarantee it