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I didn't get the reason behind the Air tag added to the iPad to begin with, innovation in a name, its just the new iPad but didn't they use that the year before?
Just give them numbers or years, at least people wont be confused by what makes an air and a pro different.

Mini = small one, iPad = the size of an iPad, Pro = big one.
 
I think we agree. I was only saying the "Air" name has been depreciated. I agree Apple will keep a $399 entry level 9.7 screen but they'll do that like they have been doing namely cut the price of last years model. But when the Air 2 runs out of breath I doubt it's successor (basically a 9.7 Pro) will be called something other than Air 3. I think it will remain Pro and its successor will be Pro 2 just to keep it simple.

I agree, but boy their naming and product range has exploded.

In 2011: iPad 2 and iPhone 4s with the iPhone 4 as the cheap model.

2016:
  • iPhone 6S
  • iPhone 6S +
  • iPhone 6
  • iPhone 6+
  • iPhone SE
  • iPad Mini 2
  • iPad Mini 4
  • iPad Air 2
  • iPad Pro 9.7"
  • iPad Pro 12.9"

I can navigate it because I follow this stuff, but I can easily see how a general consumer might be overwhelmed with a trip to an Apple store.
 
I agree, but boy their naming and product range has exploded.

In 2011: iPad 2 and iPhone 4s with the iPhone 4 as the cheap model.

2016:
  • iPhone 6S
  • iPhone 6S +
  • iPhone 6
  • iPhone 6+
  • iPhone SE
  • iPad Mini 2
  • iPad Mini 4
  • iPad Air 2
  • iPad Pro 9.7"
  • iPad Pro 12.9"

I can navigate it because I follow this stuff, but I can easily see how a general consumer might be overwhelmed with a trip to an Apple store.

Yup. It's scary how Apple history is repeating itself so quickly. It's very reminiscent of the Spindler/Amelio era of a billion and one Mac Performa models. Jobs came in, scraped the entire line because it was so confusion and consolidated the Mac line into Mac, Mac Pro, Macbook, and Powerbook. And now we are back to as you put it an overwhelming number of models which are all so very close in functionality. TC says he learned so much from SJ. Obviously not this.
 
I agree, but boy their naming and product range has exploded.

In 2011: iPad 2 and iPhone 4s with the iPhone 4 as the cheap model.

2016:
  • iPhone 6S
  • iPhone 6S +
  • iPhone 6
  • iPhone 6+
  • iPhone SE
  • iPad Mini 2
  • iPad Mini 4
  • iPad Air 2
  • iPad Pro 9.7"
  • iPad Pro 12.9"

I can navigate it because I follow this stuff, but I can easily see how a general consumer might be overwhelmed with a trip to an Apple store.

Yup. It's scary how Apple history is repeating itself so quickly. It's very reminiscent of the Spindler/Amelio era of a billion and one Mac Performa models. Jobs came in, scraped the entire line because it was so confusion and consolidated the Mac line into Mac, Mac Pro, Macbook, and Powerbook. And now we are back to as you put it an overwhelming number of models which are all so very close in functionality. TC says he learned so much from SJ. Obviously not this.

Great points. I agree. In a way it would be so nice to see a simplified line up, even dropping the numbers going forward (similar to Macs). Maybe they're slowly hinting toward this with iPhone SE and multiple iPad Pros separated by screen size.

With the iPhone SE having nicely updated internals, yet priced to be at the low end, they're slowly removing the need to just push older models down the line. Could see them just keeping the 4" SE model updated every few years yet staying at that price point. Maybe for the 7 we'll see something like iPhone Air and iPhone Pro? Or just 'iPhone' and 'iPhone Plus'?.

Even with the iPads, would be nice to just see iPad Pro(s), iPad Air and iPad mini.
 
I didn't get the reason behind the Air tag added to the iPad to begin with, innovation in a name, its just the new iPad but didn't they use that the year before?
Just give them numbers or years, at least people wont be confused by what makes an air and a pro different.

Mini = small one, iPad = the size of an iPad, Pro = big one.

I wish they hadn't gone with this "Pro" naming scheme. Pencil and smart keyboard support pretty much had to come to the 9.7" iPad, and thus they had to give the 9.7" the Pro moniker to keep it consistent with the 12.9".

For consistency, I think it should be:

iPhone mini (1st Generation) 4"
iPhone (9th Generation) 4.7"
iPhone Plus (2nd Generation) 5.5"

iPad mini (4th Generation) 7.9"
iPad (7th Generation) 9.7"
iPad Plus (1st Generation) 12.9"

Removes numbering, goes to the generation scheme like the iPods and keeps all the iOS devices consistent.

The problem of course is that Apple is pretty much forced to keep around the numbering scheme because they keep the old versions of the iPhones and iPads to get to lower price points. Really, I think they should drop that scheme and just lower their prices a bit.

As of right now, the pricing and naming among the iPads and iPhones are a complete fustercluck.
 
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I wish they hadn't gone with this "Pro" naming scheme. Pencil and smart keyboard support pretty much had to come to the 9.7" iPad, and thus they had to give the 9.7" the Pro moniker to keep it consistent with the 12.9".

For consistency, I think it should be:

iPhone mini (1st Generation) 4"
iPhone (9th Generation) 4.7"
iPhone Plus (2nd Generation) 5.5"

iPad mini (4th Generation) 7.9"
iPad (7th Generation) 9.7"
iPad Plus (1st Generation) 12.9"

Removes numbering, goes to the generation scheme like the iPods and keeps all the iOS devices consistent.

The problem of course is that Apple is pretty much forced to keep around the numbering scheme because they keep the old versions of the iPhones and iPads to get to lower price points. Really, I think they should drop that scheme and just lower their prices a bit.

As of right now, the pricing and naming among the iPads and iPhones are a complete fustercluck.

Apple just released the SE - 4" phone with most of the 6s features, priced right and probably will sell well.

They have the majority share of the phone market among all the major players in the 3 sizes that are popular. The iPad still outsells more than the next contender by far.

So tell me why exactly should they lower prices.

As for the name consolidation, not necessary. Going to a generic name and year designation is just as much baggage as the status quo now.
 
Apple just released the SE - 4" phone with most of the 6s features, priced right and probably will sell well.

They have the majority share of the phone market among all the major players in the 3 sizes that are popular. The iPad still outsells more than the next contender by far.

So tell me why exactly should they lower prices.

As for the name consolidation, not necessary. Going to a generic name and year designation is just as much baggage as the status quo now.

I'd say lower the prices by $50 or so and kill off the need to keep around old devices. Yes, the iPhone SE is priced right, but the 6S still carries a $250 premium. It's not like a small price drop would hurt Apple or the consumer. They could have easily priced the SE at $449, and considering all the features the SE has, I highly doubt 3D touch and .7" bigger display justifies the $250 price difference. It also removes the need to manufacture so many devices at once.

Also, I don't see how the generic naming scheme is just as much baggage at once. People recognize the generation scheme with iPods just fine. You could even just have it so that something like the iPhone 6S would be called "iPhone S" (6th Generation) then go back to "iPhone" for the 7th Generation. It's going to get ridiculous in the future calling it iPhone 20. The numbers are going to get dropped eventually; Apple is already doing it with the launch of the iPhone SE.
 
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So is it safe to say I don't need to get up in the middle of the night and preorder this thing? I'd rather just go buy it when it hits stores.
 
So is it safe to say I don't need to get up in the middle of the night and preorder this thing? I'd rather just go buy it when it hits stores.

I think you're pretty safe. I can't see it having the demand that a new iPhone does. Or maybe I'm totally wrong, lol. I usually wake up around 4:30 (EDT), I'm going to check myself at that time to see what's happening.
 
I think you're pretty safe. I can't see it having the demand that a new iPhone does. Or maybe I'm totally wrong, lol. I usually wake up around 4:30 (EDT), I'm going to check myself at that time to see what's happening.

Yeah I have a toddler and I try to get as much sleep as I can! Haha
 
Mine is pretty good about sleeping thankfully...but he will wake up early. I'm so not a morning person.

Ah not bad. I'm the opposite, total morning person (hence me waking up voluntarily at 4:30 most days, haha).
 
Ah not bad. I'm the opposite, total morning person (hence me waking up voluntarily at 4:30 most days, haha).

Haha yeah I guess so. If it were iPhone id do it I think. My husband will be up around 430 for work so on the off chance it wakes me from dreamland I may check...
 
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The gold 32 wifi only says delivery April 7. That's what I get for waiting until 9:30am to check lol. I will just wait and buy one from the store I guess. I could always take a 90 minute drive to my fave photography spot in Delaware and stop by the mall for tax free shipping. Hmmmm.
[doublepost=1458828572][/doublepost]JK I just ordered it off Best Buy. Gold one says pick up on the 31st so I went for it.
 
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