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...let the "this is such BS" etc. rants from the Europeans start...

Quite aside from the fact that Europeans have every right to be a little miffed if such a delay is true; can you imagine the overwhelming avalanche of rants, moans, vulgarities and "let's nuke 'em" comments that would ensue following a rumour that Americans had to wait for something that Europe had first? It doesn't bear thinking about. :rolleyes:
 
Vice president and research director at Forrester Research told The Telegraph "the UK arms of all the major record labels are biding their time and waiting to see how the service affects download sales in the US before they sign up to anything."

Further proof that the music industry STILL doesn't get it. They need to realise that the internet is an "adapt or die" arena.

By NOT embracing this service it will, however unjustified, do nothing to stem the tide of illegally downloaded music.

Idiots!

Probably was meaning the Amazon Cloud player which is US only at present. At least "officially".

I assume the officially in quotes is because it's only official as far as Amazon are concerned. The rights holders do not believe Amazon have a license to do this :p

I'm in Canada and in the same boat. I don't know if I should blame Apple's international subsidiaries or the local content providers, but I think we're all sick of this.

You blame the local content providers, as it is them who have the final say.
 
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Quite aside from the fact that Europeans have every right to be a little miffed if such a delay is true; can you imagine the overwhelming avalanche of rants, moans, vulgarities and "let's nuke 'em" comments that would ensue following a rumour that Americans had to wait for something that Europe had first? It doesn't bear thinking about. :rolleyes:

Didn't we (Europe) get Thor before the Americans? :)
 
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just get an US account ... takes like 2 minutes
 
Oh, I bet someone says this over there after hearing this news....

"Bloody Hell!"

It was more of a "oh for f---s sake....not again!" from me ;)

Try not to make yourself look like a dummy with the stereotypical comments next time... ;)
 
I think the music labels feel they are protecting their (and they will claim their artists) interests but all it does is show they are stale and still refuse to in-brace the internet still after all this time.
 
There is also another problem that persists with this kind of embarkation. The amount of internet of traffic needed to allow this whole system to flow smoothly.

You see the size of the North Carolina data centre that Apple has built, to help serve the huge amount of data. These kind of facilities will need to be built around the globe to help spread the load globally. Whether Apple goes ahead and builds their own or rents space is yet to be seen, but it will surely will be needed.

These will all take time to implement.
 
Same old, same old.

Did anyone expect anything different? Even if Apple bought the record companies someone in Brussels would manage to get their red tape machine out just because they can.

Oh well, at least it's sunny outside .... I can use my MB Pro out there and get a headache from the reflections on the screen. ;)
 
iCloud as far as I can see is just somewhere online that stores your music. This then pushes it all to your iOS devices.

I don't see how this will have any effect on sales of music as it only moves the storage of songs, nothing else.

Now we're lucky in the UK because we have Spotify - simply the best music service available. Apple have missed a trick in my opinion, as everyone knows streaming is the way to go. Why even bother owning music when you can just stream whatever you want whenever you want...

As soon as the guys in USA get Spotify you'll be raving about it it blows iTunes and iCloud out of the water.. and is beautifully implemented on the iPhone and Mac, just a shame there is no ipad app.
 
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World Citizen said:
Not only UK but also the Netherlands are left out.

I am seriously trying to get around this... There must be a way to get my account switched to a US account... lets find it...

I live in this god damn WORLD... not some stupid country!!!!!!

Simple. Buy a US iTunes gift card in eBay, go into your iTunes accout and click on change country, enter a US address and use the gift card to prove you're in the US. I've done it, but you then don't jaw access to your European app and music purchases anymore... So I have now simply created a new US iTunes account using the same approach. Wether it'll work with iTunes match or not remains to be seen...
 
A quick positive for the PRS here in the UK

Hi,

I just thought I'd throw in a thought as someone who works full time in the music industry in the UK. I think the job the PRS do is fantastic, they pay me my money, and no they're not perfect but I literally couldn't earn a living or run a business without them, and I wouldn't want to move anywhere else to work in the music industry because they are one of the best collection agencies around. I'll admit, music negotiations and legal contracts could be a lot simpler but the PRS have musicians and composers best interests at heart and they are only trying to earn their members the money that should be paid to them.

(This is my first post by the way so please be nice) :)
 
In general the smartest comment that I can post on this subject is "meh". I can see that iTunes In The Cloud would be handy but with the advent of wireless syncing I don't think that it will have that much of an impact on me. In the case of iTunes Match, I'm honestly not that interested in paying a subscription fee just so that I can access my music on a device I haven't synced yet. It's going to be easy enough to wirelessly sync (in theory, at least) and I'm still going to have to take responsibility for backing up my music unless I fancy paying $24.99 every year until I get bored of my music.

Frankly, the only point I can see in iTunes Match is if through using it I can legally sell all my CDs and still listen to that ripped music (which I doubt). That way at least I could recoup some of the fees involved.
 
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Seriously, i think apple should up their game. They dont even sell an atv2 here because we dont have hulu or netflix or any kind of such a service.
 
Lame indeed. Once again the UK lags behind everyone in just about everything. Glad I emigrated.

Are you kidding? The UK (and several other European countries) already have Spotify, which is better than the upcoming iTunes cloud service - you don't need to have purchased tracks previously to stream them. Spotify's client is even a faster and (arguably) better music player than iTunes!

I wouldn't be surprised if Spotify hasn't already made a pretty big impact on iTunes' market share in the countries that it operates. It's very, very good.
 
Why do artists need record labels? Can't they just record their music and put it on iTunes without the need for a label to take a cut?
 
The media industries seems to be run by dinosaurs who keep failing to adapt to the modern era.

In theory this service could be better than rivals who don't pay the music industry anything (from what I've heard), so they are losing out.
 
The longer they leave it, the longer competing services such as Spotify and Mflow will get a strong hold on the market. Typical of the music industry to drag their heels... Idiots.
 
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