No iTunes Support in Motorola ROKR E2

[gugy]

Maybe that means, Iphone coming up!
I hope so. It would be nice to have an Apple design touch on a cell phone.
who cares for Moto. Apple would kick everybody ass.

 

[strange days]

Apple better come out with an iPhone sooner rather than later; WM5 smartphones are coming FAST ( already here in fact ) and widespread soon, and you already get up to 640x480 screen rez for divx playback, etc...

 

[bousozoku]

Please let this be because Apple decided that Nokia would be a better partner.

Nokia could certainly be a needy partner. For being so successful, they've produced plenty of flops.

If someone were to allow Apple to design the whole phone, inside and out, it's likely that the whole world would want one, not because it's Apple but simply because it's beautiful and functional in a way that diminishes everything else.

However, it would probably require repairing permissions.

 

[JoeG4]

And a Microsoft Phone would require fixing the trashed registry database or running antivirus software on it 😛

If anyone ever wondered why Apple switched to x86, your reason is sitting right there begging for you to look at it.

Since the point of no return on the ROKR's development, Apple and Motorola have had issues, big ones. That's shown by the delay of their damn phone to market. Shoot, their relationship was already one that had plenty of abuse in the past (The G4 introduction, anyone? The original machines were supposed to be 500MHz and launched at 350!)

IBM had probably never had an interest in making laptop processors, sure desktop/workstation ones no problem, but laptop ones? No that was motorola's job, and Apple has been using the two companies for years anyway, so that was probably how it was going to stay...

Until the ROKR.

Enter the 7448, 8641, and 8641D -- some rather spectacular processors. A 2GHz processor with a 700MHz bus (not too awesome) and the same cache capacity and wide/short pipeline the G4s had? Sweet.

Until the ROKR.

That stupid little phone put a little war in Apple that killed everything as far as desktop PPCs are concerned. Nope, screw that, just one more problem.

Makes sense, doesn't it? IBM was nothing BUT surprised but Motorola couldn't say anything but bad things about Apple.. I mean what else would you be saying if you just blew off one of your biggest customers by being cocky over a stupid phone?

While Apple was dealing with a company that had no interest in making decent laptop processors and a company that was too cocky to do anything for them, a few intel reps are still kissing Steve Jobs' giant butt.

HELLO Intel!

Ahhh yes finally. Them suckers have been trying to get Apple for years, and then some. They've had a sweet taste of Jobs in the past when NeXTStep almost made it but it was too late..

So they got him and his company now, and Apple today is a far more lucrative offering than NeXT was in the 90s.

 

[bigandy]

This furthers my suspision of a new Apple-Branded cell phone. With iTunes ofcourse. Apple style. Apple interface.

me too.... here's to hoping! 🙄

 

[840quadra]

However, it would probably require repairing permissions.

That will be easy..
Just press # then * then "Send"

To Zap the P-Ram, simply press # then * then "End"

And a Microsoft Phone would require fixing the trashed registry database or running antivirus software on it 😛

If anyone ever wondered why Apple switched to x86, ...................

I am lost after that point..

Whom are you replying to, and what are you talking about? 😕 😱

Just so you know Freescale now makes the G4 Processors, they are not Motorola anymore. Apple isn't really that big of a customer to Freescale, nor Motorola at this point in time either.

After more than 50 years as part of Motorola, Freescale started a new life as a stand alone company in July 2004. Since then, under the leadership of Chairman and CEO Michel Mayer, the company has focused on improving financial performance, reenergizing the culture and building a global brand.

http://www.freescale.com/webapp/sps/site/homepage.jsp?nodeId=06

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Please let this be because Apple decided that Nokia would be a better partner.

Nokia??? If Apple finaly have decided to go with quality, they should most definitely go with SonyEricsson.

 

[jeriqo]

Sorry... had to say it.

Nokia??? If Apple finaly have decided to go with quality, they should most definitely go with SonyEricsson.

Apple going with SONYericsson is very unlikely 🙁

Apple should make their own iPhone. They'd sell more than iPods.

 

[Dr.Gargoyle]

Apple going with SONYericsson is very unlikely 🙁

Apple should make their own iPhone. They'd sell more than iPods.

I agree that it is very unlikely after W800. Still, it would have been a match made in heaven.

 

[kretzy]

Motorola Sucks. Screw them with their crappy interfaces, ugly designs, slow ex. powerpc processor manufacturing, lame advertising, and stupid management.

There, I said it. No one here really cares about this. You all knew ROKR e2 was going to be just as crap as the e1.

I couldnt've said it better myself! I never thought a moto phone was worth of iTunes in the first place. Bring on the Mac iPhone I say!

 

[50548]

Motorola has been screwing up since, well, FOREVER...development of the PPC sucks, the STNKR E1 sucked, the E2 seems to suck even more, and no one I know buys Moto phones (yes, it's all about Nokia, Siemens and SonyEricsson now)...as most people said above: WHO THE HELL CARES?

Motorola is BAD marketing for Apple now. It's easier for Apple to buy that crap and shut it down, instead of putting one of its software pearls in such bad-looking phones...good riddance.

 

[T'hain Esh Kelch]

Motorola sucks vs. iTunes world domination

Personally, I pick the first. I think this is positive, the RoKR was a disaster.

 

[amateurmacfreak]

well... it was love hate, but this just sounds like hate hate. they're completely scrapping iTunes, yikes. and the worst part is this iRadio. i hate to think that companies believe they can harness apple's image by adding a lowercase "i" next to any crap they churn out and believe it well be a hit 😎

apple is probably making a phone anyhow. screw you motorola, nokia rocks you. 😀

Screw mototola. Screw the ****ing (self-edited, by the way, just had to do it because... agh, I couldn't think of anything more intelligent to say, too early) poseurs that try to take the i and put it on front of every stupid product to make it be awesome and cool like the iPod was. Ugh. I wish that Apple could get some sort of trademarky patenty thing (once more, I am tired) on the i. It sucks when everyone uses it. It's so stupid and it makes me so mad. 😡 Ok, I am a bit tired this morning though, a little overreactive. Ok, the bottom line is I don't care. I hate Mototola, I hate ugly little cell phones, and I hate some idiot CEO who thinks, "I know what would make it cool, let's stick a little 'i' on it!"
Wow. Anger out for the day.🙄 🙂 😎

 

[arnette]

and no one I know buys Moto phones (yes, it's all about Nokia, Siemens and SonyEricsson now)

Nokia and SE I'll give to you, but Siemens was recently bought up by BenQ after the Siemens parent company wanted out.... and Siemens as a mobile phone brand is about to go the way of the dodo. Moto is actually a very popular brand for cell phones. Despite their piss-poor user interface and unique ability to crash. At least they routinely do quad-band phones.

All that being said I have a SE phone.

 

[geese]

"Rockin' Cowboys and Angry Women" as genres!

Moto really are down with the kids arnt they!

You've got to admit that iRadio does sound more cutting edge and exotic compared to any brand name Apple have come up with. Or even Nike for that matter.

</sarcasm>

 

[50548]

Nokia and SE I'll give to you, but Siemens was recently bought up by BenQ after the Siemens parent company wanted out.... and Siemens as a mobile phone brand is about to go the way of the dodo. Moto is actually a very popular brand for cell phones. Despite their piss-poor user interface and unique ability to crash. At least they routinely do quad-band phones.

All that being said I have a SE phone.

Sorry, but Moto still may be popular in U.S./UK...in the rest of the world people just remember it as the company that had StarTac...apart from the RAZR, Motorola has NO good offerings in terms of design and interface...bleargh.

 

[ClarkeB]

Aren't they putting it on the nextgen RAZR?

 

[Greenjeens]

iRadio puts subscription fees into carriers' pockets. iTunes doesn't do that. That's all this is really about, Moto wanted a phone that more networks would be willing to sell.

Ah, someone who understands the cellular biz and Macs too🙂
That is about it. The carriers are calling the shots. With dropping airtime rates and a slowly growing maxed out suscriber base, the goal is to grow profits in added features like, text, data, ringtones. This boosts revenue per subscriber substantially and makes for a profitable cellco, who can put more money back into the network, and of course, more "must have" revenue producing extra features.

Apple will never make a cell phone!
iTunes support, or lack of, is a long, long way fom branding a cellphone and setting up the organization to support it.

There has been a move out of the highly competitive and unprofitable cellular manufacturing business by much larger electronics firms. It's not what kind of phone customers might, want it's about pleasing the larger designs of the cellular carriers.

I haven't cared much for Motorola products since they sent their manufacturing to China, but at least in the US, Motorola fixes the mess of a phone they first launch, with rapid firmware updates(CDMA). They know where their bread and butter is...
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dave

 

[achmafooma]

Sorry, but Moto still may be popular in U.S./UK...in the rest of the world people just remember it as the company that had StarTac...apart from the RAZR, Motorola has NO good offerings in terms of design and interface...bleargh.

Agreed. My last two phones have been Motos, and I don't think I'll ever be buying another. When our contracts run out, we'll be switching cell phone providers and I'll be getting a Treo 650 and my wife has her eyes on one of the SEs.

That said, our contracts aren't up until about a week after MacWorld. If Apple has an iPhone in the works, it would be perfect timing 🙂.

 

[pjmurphy77]

New SLVR does have iTunes

I just bought a Motorola SLVR (L7) - it has Cingular branding AND it does have iTunes support. This phone is DEFINITLEY sexier than the ROKR - here's an old review..

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/motorola-l7-en.shtml


The bad news is it still appears to limit the song count to 100 (maybe it is pre-production).

here is a quick pic!

 

[gauchogolfer]

Motorola relevance in EU?

The lack of Motorola support for iTunes doesn't affect me at all, since I've not seen a Moto phone here in France. Nokia, Sony, Siemens, Philips, and even the crappy Sagems have more impact here. As for the possibility of Apple moving into the mobile phone-carrier space here in France, I'm not holding my breath. With that said, I'm a recent switcher (in May) and thus fairly ardent Apple supporter, so I welcome any innovations in this arena.

 

[jeriqo]

Juan-Les-Pins is very sexy 🙂

 

[50548]

The lack of Motorola support for iTunes doesn't affect me at all, since I've not seen a Moto phone here in France. Nokia, Sony, Siemens, Philips, and even the crappy Sagems have more impact here. As for the possibility of Apple moving into the mobile phone-carrier space here in France, I'm not holding my breath. With that said, I'm a recent switcher (in May) and thus fairly ardent Apple supporter, so I welcome any innovations in this arena.

Same here in Switzerland...I don't see many Motos around, simply because they are not as popular as Nokia, Siemens and SE...as for the SLVR shown above, it looks almost EXACTLY the same as the STNKR (Marathon SPNKR anyone?? 😉 )...no breakthrough design at all...

p.s.: Gaucho, I was in Juan-les-Pins last August...cool place, nice girls, great weather..! 😉

 

[phawksworth]

I still don't get it!

I am still having a hard time buying into the need for iTunes on a phone. If I want to listen to music while I'm out and about, I use my iPod. No phone manufacturer is even coming close to offering a competitor to iTunes as far as I can see.

I'm not even sold on the idea of using an iTunes enabled phone to buy music from the ITMS. Does anyone do that? The ITMS is already so accessible via my powerbook that I am never far enough away from the store to need an alternative way to buy tunes.

The only time that I can imagine wanting a phone that can sync with iTunes is if it could replace my iPod (or perhaps quench my thirst for a nano). If I can carry one gadget around instead of two, and it has the same quality of my other Apple kit, then I'm in! This will surely only be the case if it is designed inside and out by Apple.

Seems like a long shot. Fingers crossed!

 

[gauchogolfer]

Looking forward to summer

Juan-Les-Pins is very sexy 🙂

p.s.: Gaucho, I was in Juan-les-Pins last August...cool place, nice girls, great weather..!😉

I've not been here for summer yet, so it sounds like I have a lot to look forward to here in the south of France 😀