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The base 17 is a great iPhone especially with all the changes like always on, double the storage, better camera, slightly bigger screen, ProMotion. Can definitely recommend getting one. My mom just got one. Colors could have been better but the Sage is ok.


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The base 17 is a great iPhone especially with all the changes like always on, double the storage, better camera, slightly bigger screen, ProMotion. Can definitely recommend getting one. My mom just got one. Colors could have been better but the Sage is ok.


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I think the base model is great value. I was out of the iPhone world since my 3G, 5 and then briefly an XR so it's a stellar upgrade for me.

I have the Sage too, but opted for the rugged Beats magsafe case in orange. Love it <3
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I bought a 17 Pro, but I love the base model because it offers great value for money and makes all other iPhones seem overpriced.

The 17 base model has 256GB of storage, ProMotion, and the A19 chipset, which makes it slightly faster than the 16 Pro. I seriously considered the base model, but I ultimately chose the flagship model because I plan to keep it as my daily driver for over five years.
 
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I think the base model is great value. I was out of the iPhone world since my 3G, 5 and then briefly an XR so it's a stellar upgrade for me.

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Love the orange color. Have an Orange 17 Pro Max. Upgrading from a XR will be huge. No notch too. However for all my phones I prefer to have clear case to see the actual color of the device.

I bought a 17 Pro, but I love the base model because it offers great value for money and makes all other iPhones seem overpriced.

The 17 base model has 256GB of storage, ProMotion, and the A19 chipset, which makes it slightly faster than the 16 Pro. I seriously considered the base model, but I ultimately chose the flagship model because I plan to keep it as my daily driver for over five years.

Agree. The base 17 is a fantastic iPhone. The only reason I would recommend to go Pro would be for either the bigger screen(of the Pro Max) and/or the telephoto lens (of both Pro and Pro Max). For me I had to have the telephoto lens and prefer the larger screen, so got the Orange 17 Pro Max.
 
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I've just ordered a 256GB Black 17, it's the first iPhone that's compelled me to upgrade from my current 13 Mini. I would have preferred a slightly smaller size, but the always-on display, USB C, 120hz and much improved front and rear cameras were enough to convince me. My 13 Mini actually still runs just fine, no lag on iOS 26, but at 79% health the battery no longer lasts anywhere near a full day.
$90 might be worth it to send it in for a battery replacement.
 
Go to a few Apple Stores and you'd be surprised how other people actually see the Air.

I've seen people chatting with their friends:
  • "This is like half an iPhone with one camera."
  • "I read online it has the worse battery life."
  • "It looks kinda boring. Why is it $999?"
You seem to have a real agenda against the Air and I'm trying to figure out what that is about. Everything I see you post is negative regarding the Air. It's like you can't even agree that while it may not be for everybody it's for a sizable contingent of users who appreciate size/weight and form. Be happy that there are choices! It's really a wonderful phone, you should get one so you can speak from firsthand vs anecdotal experience.
 
No, it doesn’t. Apple claims the same 30 hours for physical SIM iPhone 17 compared to 27 hours for Air.

Most importantly, it’s hard to convince actual buyers otherwise - that a thin phone can last as long as a regular one - like trying to convince people a small car is as safe as a truck. It’s an uphill battle.
Again with your strange anti-Air agenda. Youtube battery tests have shown that the Air is on par with the base 17. My own experience is that the Air's battery is at least as good as my 16 Pro.
 
Again with your strange anti-Air agenda. Youtube battery tests have shown that the Air is on par with the base 17. My own experience is that the Air's battery is at least as good as my 16 Pro.

I returned the Air (too big for me) and just received my base 17. Battery life seems better than the Air but not by much. Like 5% difference by the end of the day on average.

With that said, I'm considering going back to the Air and maybe just using a loop grip to help with one-hand use. The 17 seems to have worse reception than the Air.

In the same location and carrier (granted at different times), with 1 bar on the Air, I still get usable internet. Meanwhile, with 1 bar on the 17, even something like MacRumors wouldn't load.
 
Again with your strange anti-Air agenda. Youtube battery tests have shown that the Air is on par with the base 17. My own experience is that the Air's battery is at least as good as my 16 Pro.

Maybe you should tell Apple to update their battery life claims.

You seem to have a real agenda against the Air and I'm trying to figure out what that is about. Everything I see you post is negative regarding the Air. It's like you can't even agree that while it may not be for everybody it's for a sizable contingent of users who appreciate size/weight and form. Be happy that there are choices! It's really a wonderful phone, you should get one so you can speak from firsthand vs anecdotal experience.

You don't need rack your brain trying "figure out" anything out. I'm posting an opinion, just like you are. Just because you don't agree with me doesn't mean I have an "agenda."
 
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