No LTE Band 30 on iPhone SE

[geoff5093]

LTE band 30?? OMG, who the hell cares???

Do you know what LTE bands are? If a band AT&T uses is lacking on this phone, that's most definitely something to care about.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Band 30 would be nice to have, but, given the target of keeping the costs down on the SE I can perhaps understand why it was omitted / not added.

Those that really need Band 30 are obviously going to have to stick to the larger phones for now.

 

[dave006]

Do you know what LTE bands are? If a band AT&T uses is lacking on this phone, that's most definitely something to care about.

Well do "you" know what Band 30 is used for?

AT&T is still rolling out Band 30 aka the WCS spectrum to only a few Metro areas even today. It will be part of the long-term network. Apple made it clear at the iPhone SE announcement: the iPhone SE will not support LTE Advanced (300 Mbps) only LTE at 150 Mbps.

Band 30 part of the overlay of it's national 700 MHz deployment, so you would expect to see urban areas benefit the most. Offloading traffic from the 700 MHz and also 2100 MHz AWS for LTE spectrum. Oh, and in some markets AT&T is also using carrier aggregation to combine 700 MHz and 2100 MHz.

Summary: Band 30 is a nice feature addition but not a world ender for 99.95% of AT&T customer.

Note: LTE Advanced offers a range of benefits over standard LTE support in addition to higher theoretical throughput. For instance, LTE Advanced offers smoother "handoffs" when travelling between cell towers. This allows your smartphone to not drop the connection so much.

Dave

 

[turbineseaplane]

Summary: Band 30 is a nice feature addition but not a world ender for 99.95% of AT&T customer.

Agree - Good summary & post!

 

[PaladinGuy]

Well do "you" know what Band 30 is used for?

AT&T is still rolling out Band 30 aka the WCS spectrum to only a few Metro areas even today. It will be part of the long-term network. Apple made it clear at the iPhone SE announcement: the iPhone SE will not support LTE Advanced (300 Mbps) only LTE at 150 Mbps.

Band 30 part of the overlay of it's national 700 MHz deployment, so you would expect to see urban areas benefit the most. Offloading traffic from the 700 MHz and also 2100 MHz AWS for LTE spectrum. Oh, and in some markets AT&T is also using carrier aggregation to combine 700 MHz and 2100 MHz.

Summary: Band 30 is a nice feature addition but not a world ender for 99.95% of AT&T customer.

Note: LTE Advanced offers a range of benefits over standard LTE support in addition to higher theoretical throughput. For instance, LTE Advanced offers smoother "handoffs" when travelling between cell towers. This allows your smartphone to not drop the connection so much.

Dave

So, does the SE not have LTE Advanced? It seems like I've read some technicalities about it.

 

[geoff5093]

Well do "you" know what Band 30 is used for?

AT&T is still rolling out Band 30 aka the WCS spectrum to only a few Metro areas even today. It will be part of the long-term network. Apple made it clear at the iPhone SE announcement: the iPhone SE will not support LTE Advanced (300 Mbps) only LTE at 150 Mbps.

Band 30 part of the overlay of it's national 700 MHz deployment, so you would expect to see urban areas benefit the most. Offloading traffic from the 700 MHz and also 2100 MHz AWS for LTE spectrum. Oh, and in some markets AT&T is also using carrier aggregation to combine 700 MHz and 2100 MHz.

Summary: Band 30 is a nice feature addition but not a world ender for 99.95% of AT&T customer.

Note: LTE Advanced offers a range of benefits over standard LTE support in addition to higher theoretical throughput. For instance, LTE Advanced offers smoother "handoffs" when travelling between cell towers. This allows your smartphone to not drop the connection so much.

Dave

So yes you should care, thanks!

 

[Max(IT)]

It seems that it's mostly only the people who have something against the SE that try to somehow refer to it as a flagship device so that the potential issues they have with it would supposedly seem that much more meaningful.

correct. It has "flagship performance" (in some fields). That doesn't mean it's a flagship smartphone.
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So could I assume only device with LTE band 30 has LTE-A? If so, then even not all iPhone 6s/6s Plus are LTE ready.

BTW, Optus in Australia does not support LTE. Only 4G. Maybe Telstra supports it but I would never know.

According to my knowledge LTE is just an "4G" implementation (like UMTS or HSPA were 3G implementations).
Actually according to some sources LTE isn't even a full 4G solution (it's labelled as "Pre-4G") while LTE-A is the real 4G.
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There is no proof it has a better battery than the 6s until people start using it. Apple has made many claims regarding battery life in the past that haven't always been true. There is also zero chance it will have a superior battery to the Plus.

according to the first reviews the SE battery ife is better than 6S and it approaches 6S+ results.
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Forget all the numbers they are meaningless. Have you seen a teardown of the plus? The battery is huge, no way the SE will perform better in any scenario

SE has a much smaller display....
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The ipads have large screens but they also have great battery life, screen size is irrelevant . SE owners will be lucky to get same battery life as the 6/6s. I reckon it will take less than a day before we start seeing threads complaining about poor battery life on the SE

screen size is irrelevant ..... oh my ....


Regarding complaining threads, on MR you'll find people complaining about everything Apple does

 

[Shirasaki]

According to my knowledge LTE is just an "4G" implementation (like UMTS or HSPA were 3G implementations).
Actually according to some sources LTE isn't even a full 4G solution (it's labelled as "Pre-4G") while LTE-A is the real 4G.

OK. After reading a Wikipedia page, I know LTE is branded as "4G" while LTE-A is true 4G.

Regarding complaining threads, on MR you'll find people complaining about everything Apple does

And such complaints would never end until Apple is gone.

screen size is irrelevant ..... oh my ....

Then we can light up our home with thousands of LEDs so that we can "paint" the wall into different color every second. Screen size is "irrelevant". We will pay the same as we use single LED. This is their theory.