UltraFusion doesn't scale the performance of multiple processors well. My guess is that M3 Ultra is the last chip with UltraFusion and they're working on something completely new that wouldn't be ready in time for M4 Ultra.
Yeah it’s definitely not M3 since it includes Thunderbolt 5. M3 Max did not have this.Go to Apple's Mac Studio site and do a compare with the new Ultra Studio and the M4 Max like I have in my new 16" Mac Book Pro with 128GB of memory and 8TB SSD.
When you see where the numbers are double in the Ultra what they in the M4 Max, I think for marketing purposes Apple choose "M3 Ultra" so they have "M4 Ultra" for the Mac Tower later. The number that will verify this thought will be the single core speed of the M3 Ultra vs the single core speed of the M4 Max.
In both the M1 family and the M2 family of four trim lines, the single core speed for each of the four trim lines were nearly identical. So we will have to see if the M3 Ultra has a single core speed like the M3 family or M4 family.
They must have changed something from the M3 Max at least to add Thunderbolt 5, and I wouldn’t be surprised that they added interconnect parts that weren’t originally in the Max either. saying the M4 Max doesn’t have them doesn’t necessarily mean they couldn’t, but they’ve also been more upfront that Ultras could skip a generation. Hopefully that means that future Studios could see the latest Max chip sooner than whenever the next Ultra is ready.The interesting thing is that they said the same thing about the M3 chip last year at WWDC, that it had no interconnects to create an M3 Ultra and that's why there will be no Mac Studio released in 2024, lack of M3 Ultra was the explanation.
Now, wonder of wonders, there is an M3 Ultra available after all for the Mac Studio but no M4 Ultra, due to the lack of interconnects?
Problem is the desktop Pro Macs tend to only get updated every 2 or 3 years not yearly as the laptops do, so we do need the latest chips in each update.This makes the lineup look a bit silly. I realise that not everyone needs an Ultra, but the ones who do will want the latest performance benefits. Maybe Apple is doing this intentionally to keep people on their toes as the yearly cycle does become a bit boring, and if you don't give people something to complain about or look forward to, it gets a bit predictable.
They’ve very likely made some changes from the M3 Max, but them still calling it an M3 probably means it has the same compute and GPU cores as the M3, probably the same N3B process node too.Yeah it’s definitely not M3 since it includes Thunderbolt 5. M3 Max did not have this.
It’s more of an M3.5 since M3 Max doesn’t have Thunderbolt 5 either. So they could have added ultra fusion when they added TB5.I guess it's a lie cause M3 Max doesn't really have Ultra Fusion connection with tear-down reviews and now Apple claims it does.
still catching up on all the updates, but this seems super confusing and makes absolutely no sense. Why the **** would apple release a M4 max studio while the ultra version is M3?!?!? On what planet does this make any sense?
I predict that we now have to wait until the m5 before we get a new studio and pro.
Yes, it makes sesnse. M3 series dont even support TB5.It’s more of an M3.5 since M3 Max doesn’t have Thunderbolt 5 either. So they could have added ultra fusion when they added TB5.
Try advising someone on which iPad and Apple Pencil to get. Talk about confusing. "Wait, so you're telling me the AIR is thicker than the PRO??? and heavier??? The mini has which chip??? Is it a pro???" - real conversation with real person trying to navigate the purchase of a device designed to make computing more approachable for the masses.1997 Steve would have been so proud of this confusion
They must have changed something from the M3 Max at least to add Thunderbolt 5, and I wouldn’t be surprised that they added interconnect parts that weren’t originally in the Max either. saying the M4 Max doesn’t have them doesn’t necessarily mean they couldn’t, but they’ve also been more upfront that Ultras could skip a generation. Hopefully that means that future Studios could see the latest Max chip sooner than whenever the next Ultra is ready.
While channel sales outlets say the Mac Pro outsells the Mac Studio roughly 2 to 1 (making up 3% of all Mac sales),
it may be that the "upgrade" rate from an M2 to M3 would be low enough it is not worth the effort so perhaps the Mac Pro will remain on M2 until M5 is available.
Yeah, the budget iPad needs to be canned and the air’s price reduced. Surely the same body and display panel couldn’t cost the same as they did in the Air 4 they debuted in.Try advising someone on which iPad and Apple Pencil to get. Talk about confusing. "Wait, so you're telling me the AIR is thicker than the PRO??? and heavier??? The mini has which chip??? Is it a pro???" - real conversation with real person trying to navigate the purchase of a device designed to make computing more approachable for the masses.