If there is no mention about Apple Map update during WWDC keynote then it won't until Scott Forstall apologizes first. 
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I use Apple Maps 3/4 times a week while driving and have done for around a year and a half. Not once has it taken me the wrong way.
The only time is use Google maps is if I fancy exploring the world via street view, otherwise I always use Apple Maps.
The only time is use Google maps is if I fancy exploring the world via street view, otherwise I always use Apple Maps.
...if you had read and understood the first part of my post, you would have seen that I posted about a POI on Apple's Maps, which is still showing despite:
1 - It closed down waaaay before Apple maps was even introduced
2 - I reported this to Apple within the first week of using their maps, but as of today, the POI is still showing on the map. Clearly Apple don't remove incorrect places.
If they can't be bothered to correct things, then it points to the fact that their maps have still not improved enough for me to trust them over Google's maps.
Will you are a bit closed-minded if you think Google maps is so much better. Because here in the United States it has issues with POI's as well. Like I said if you pay for free you get free. That's why I buy the Garmin maps. It's much more reliable than anything google's ever offered.
They need to verify every error reported. Not saying that it should take a year to do that but just because someone reports a POI that is gone or changed doesn't mean that they are telling the truth (not implying anything about poster). If I were a bad person and could get a competitor's restaurant removed just by reporting it with no verification things would end up a lot worse than they are now.
I know of places where both Apple and Google maps are more than a year out of date in terms of POI.
I know of places where both Apple and Google maps are more than a year out of date in terms of POI.
When I plug in my address on Apple Maps, it pinpoints my house precisely.
Google Maps still places me about a mile and a half down the road, so I don't really trust Google for accuracy.
Apple Maps worked very well on a recent road trip from MI to NY. Switched to Google a couple of times but it was too slow, so we stuck with Apple all the way.
Google Maps still places me about a mile and a half down the road, so I don't really trust Google for accuracy.
Apple Maps worked very well on a recent road trip from MI to NY. Switched to Google a couple of times but it was too slow, so we stuck with Apple all the way.
Thats like me too. I had to find something and I tried both Maps and Google. Apple Maps found it. Google Maps did not
Well, they did actually make a few minor changes to the app. Here are the ones I've spotted:
- You get the Drive | Walk | Apps at that top *after* you've routed, rather than picking the option you want before routing. This is an improvement imo, makes changing the transport method a lot easier.
- They've taken out the transport preference from Settings > Maps. Before you could change this from Drive to Walk and it meant the time displayed next to a pin label was the walking time. As a non-driver this was good for me. Tis a shame it's gone, but not such a problem now it's easier to check walking directions after it works out the driving directions.
- In general the directions interface looks different - Start button at the bottom, etc.
-3D is no longer a button on the bottom bar, you access it via the i button
- You can access saved locations after tapping the search bar
- You get the Drive | Walk | Apps at that top *after* you've routed, rather than picking the option you want before routing. This is an improvement imo, makes changing the transport method a lot easier.
- They've taken out the transport preference from Settings > Maps. Before you could change this from Drive to Walk and it meant the time displayed next to a pin label was the walking time. As a non-driver this was good for me. Tis a shame it's gone, but not such a problem now it's easier to check walking directions after it works out the driving directions.
- In general the directions interface looks different - Start button at the bottom, etc.
-3D is no longer a button on the bottom bar, you access it via the i button
- You can access saved locations after tapping the search bar
I personally have never really understood the Apple Maps hate. Even during the iOS 6 beta, I used it for turn by turn from New Orleans to Houston without a problem. My work takes me to locations all around town and the surrounding areas that I'm not familiar with, and I've never had a problem with Apple Maps getting me to my destination on time without any fuss. I can't speak to outside the US, but here in the States it definitely seems to be just fine. I feel like a lot of people heard there were issues and keep repeating something they heard without actually using it. I've never felt a need to download an alternative mapping solution, and again, I use Maps ALL THE TIME. It does the job, I have literally never had it misdirect me or give me an inaccurate result. YMMV, but at least in the Greater New Orleans area, and the entire Gulf Coast really, the data is accurate, it gets me everywhere I need to go, and it's integration means that I can use it with Siri, etc so I'm content. Again, not trying to say the issues don't exist, just saying that from frequent personal experience, I don't see em. Maybe they're significantly worse outside the States, maybe people have waaaaay higher expectations than I do, I don't know. As long as my map app gets me where I need to go without problems, I'm happy, particularly since it's free. YMMV.
I agree. I'm in exactly the same position as Dino F - reported a restaurant closed even when Apple Maps was still in beta and it's still on there. However, their partner Yelp has also reported the restaurant closed since 2010. The URL to which Apple Maps links said for a while the restaurant had closed, and is now dead. And I've provided links to the two restaurants that have occupied the site since this particular restaurant closed. At some point this ceases to be 'due care and attention' and becomes sheer inaction.
This is one of literally tens of errors on the one major shopping street near where I live in Central London. It's a major road, in a major city. I'm glad it works in some locations but in London the POIs are useless. Google are much better in London, but I accept that my experience is not shared by everyone.
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There are effectively two Maps apps here, and one of them works great. The routing software to get from A to B is fantastic, and has never let me down. The POI database is terrible and really needs fixed. That's a long term thing to work on, and I don't doubt that they are working on it. But if you know where you're going, Maps is great.
I'd also expect to see public transport in 8.1.
I'd also expect to see public transport in 8.1.
There are faults that I reported during iOS6 beta 1 that still haven't been fixed (and a few that somebody checked and changed so they were badly wrong, as in marked historical landmarks as kebab shops wrong). There's simply nobody working on it.
If I were a bad person, I'd work for Apple Maps, given my competitor's restaurant probably says that it's a parking garage.
Apple Maps POI is a disaster. An utter, utter disaster.
That could be considered closed minded as well. It depends on your area. Garmin (NAVTEQ) doesn't hold a candle to Google in my area (east coast, Baltimore/DC). Nor do they have the resources too.
Latest update to NAVTEQ maps released at the end of May (2015.10 US & Canada East) is about 1 - 1 1/2 years behind Google maps for this area (mileage may vary) judging by new roads, bridges and roundabouts. POI aren't even close as is to be expected by an ad company such as Google.
That said Garmins NAVTEQ maps are waaaaay better then Tom Tom for my area who Apple relies on. My first stand alone GPS was a tom tom and I didn't realize how bad it was until I got a Garmin.
Although a Garmin stand alone is my main navigation unit I find Google maps to be superior in every way. I continue to use Garmin because it's convenient and it's not BAD either just not as good.
But like I said the area is the biggest factor.
I've noticed a trend for awhile now when it comes to Maps. The loudest critics are from the UK. It sounds like Apple's POI data there is as bad as it gets. In my experience around Houston, Apple's POIs are good 90% of the time, while Google is good 95% of the time. That 5% difference is a big deal though, and unless I know the exact address of a location, I'll turn to Google first.
Sadly, it seems to be that Apple is really only interested in improving things in China. There's a school down the street that's not in the system at all. Searching for it returns no results at all. To make matters worse, not a SINGLE school from that entire school district is in there. I reported all of this when iOS6 was released, and still no change. This is a school district with almost 49,000 students, so you would think Apple would get their act together on something like that.
Sadly, it seems to be that Apple is really only interested in improving things in China. There's a school down the street that's not in the system at all. Searching for it returns no results at all. To make matters worse, not a SINGLE school from that entire school district is in there. I reported all of this when iOS6 was released, and still no change. This is a school district with almost 49,000 students, so you would think Apple would get their act together on something like that.
I'll illustrate my point a little further with a picture. In the attached image there are actually THREE separate schools. First, the large complex which takes up a large portion of the image is actually two schools, Apple groups them under one, which I suppose this is understandable since they have the same name, but one is a middle school while the other is an elementary school. They have different addresses though.
However, in the bottom left of the image is a third school. This is an entirely different school with a different name and part of a different school district. This is the one Apple doesn't list at all. To make matters worse, there's actually a non-existent road in this image. The "road" that appears to connect all of these together is just a dirt walking path. None of the roads between them actually connect. You have to drive about a mile to get around, and tons of people get lost looking for the unlisted school all the time.
However, in the bottom left of the image is a third school. This is an entirely different school with a different name and part of a different school district. This is the one Apple doesn't list at all. To make matters worse, there's actually a non-existent road in this image. The "road" that appears to connect all of these together is just a dirt walking path. None of the roads between them actually connect. You have to drive about a mile to get around, and tons of people get lost looking for the unlisted school all the time.
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Frankly, I'm surprised by even the handful of posts that say Apple Maps is better, I guess it must boil down to which local area you live in where Apple/TomTom put some effort into updates.
I'm in Canada and Google Maps is far superior to Apple and Garmin. And I've updated my Garmins (I have lifetime map updates on all my Nuvis) but I stopped using them because, as you've correctly pointed out, even the latest NAVTEQ NA update is over a year old in terms of POIs and other things.
But that's just the tip of the iceberg so to speak. Google maps wins hands down for a number of reasons:
1. Error reporting/handling/updates - sorry but Apple maps has been downright shameful in this regard. Every error report I've submitted from years ago has gone into the abyss. Even reports submitted directly to TomTom via MapShare haven't made their way to Apple Maps. In contrast, Google Maps updates errors within days and you get status updates via email.
2. POI database - no comparison here, it's not even a level playing field where I am. If I'm extremely lucky, as in struck-by-lightning lucky, Apple Maps will find the POI I'm looking for.
3. Traffic - not even close, especially since Google's Waze acquisition - Apple maps shows no traffic info in my area, at all. And Yes, traffic is enabled in Apple Maps.
4. Lane Guidance - Apple Maps doesn't even have it.
5. Offline Maps - Same
6. Street View integration has been a real time saver in many instances for me
7. One-handed single-finger operation of zooming in and out
8. Bike routing
and that's just mentioning the few things that come to mind.
I just wish Apple would allow us to make 3rd party maps the default. Right now I have to copy and paste address links into Google Maps from Mail and Safari instead of just clicking on them.