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I could see the companies you referring to will disappear in the nearest future... No reason for them to exist or not to be outsourced.

Why did you buy now, yet it was available for quite a while.

Another attempts to push an old crippled device to the masses by Apple. How much you get for this?

Just wait for a few month and get a real iPad...
 
iPads are awesome...there is no arguing that. What really tweaks me is why the hell can't Apple put that kind of effort into improving the laptop. I love my MBP...but it could be so much better with some newer modern hardware. ....and dont get me started on iPhoto...jeebus ..great features but horrible performance.

I really think it's damn time they start focusing on the rest of their products.
 
Coming from someone who hates touch screens and does not own an iPad - I have been mulling over getting some at work. These could be an ideal solution for work instructions and operator workstations. No - I'm not talking about CAD or running models - more of a replacement for binders / hard copy work instructions - with minimal footprint. (no need to waste valuable production line space for a monitor, keyboard, mouse and tower - which all eat up a BIG chunk of space)

If I could get IT on board, I believe this could be a great application for this device. If only I could convince others... :confused:
 
I edited my original post #16 to change QUERTY to the correct QWERTY. Thanks for pointing the error out.

Let me add here what I posted in another thread. The iPad has opened the door to something that we can no more clearly picture than could the buyers like me who bought the first Commodore VIC 20 computer, the one before the now famous Commodore 64. The OP was speaking of what will happen in the future now that a successful tablet has been made. Many on here are already old fashioned in their thinking when they use the phrase that it is "for information consumption, not for creation". That has already been proven wrong in its short life. The learning curve has just begun and we have no way of knowing were it will go. Its future is as much in the hands of developers as it is in the hands of Apple.

Who could picture the future of aviation when they were watching the Wright brothers fly their first flight, which was less than the length of a Boeing 747. How useful could a machine be that had to land every few hundred feet. If successful it could only be used for fun, there was no practical use for it at all.
 
Coming from someone who hates touch screens and does not own an iPad - I have been mulling over getting some at work. These could be an ideal solution for work instructions and operator workstations. No - I'm not talking about CAD or running models - more of a replacement for binders / hard copy work instructions - with minimal footprint. (no need to waste valuable production line space for a monitor, keyboard, mouse and tower - which all eat up a BIG chunk of space)

If I could get IT on board, I believe this could be a great application for this device. If only I could convince others... :confused:

The iPad is by far not rugged enough for this. Also enjoy bolting down your iPad. From years of experience in many industrial environment I've found out that operators steal like there is no tomorrow and hardly care about company property. Either bolt everything down, or put stuff there that has no real world value. Heck, one company (Fortune 100) I worked for had to replace the new LCD screens on the production floor with clunky old CRT's because employees would keep stealing them, even after we bolted them down.

We have hardened touch computers now that are part of the workstations and are bolted down in such a way it would be VERY hard to steal one.
 
Theft not a huge concern in my workplace....

This wouldn't be bolted down per se, but at least mounted on an articulating arm. I still feel it has huge potential with this, only catch being the wifi.

Can the iPad run 802.3 via the multi-connector - or is it wifi ONLY? Because that'd be the only real roadblock in my field.
 
I edited my original post #16 to change QUERTY to the correct QWERTY. Thanks for pointing the error out.

Let me add here what I posted in another thread. The iPad has opened the door to something that we can no more clearly picture than could the buyers like me who bought the first Commodore VIC 20 computer, the one before the now famous Commodore 64. The OP was speaking of what will happen in the future now that a successful tablet has been made. Many on here are already old fashioned in their thinking when they use the phrase that it is "for information consumption, not for creation". That has already been proven wrong in its short life. The learning curve has just begun and we have no way of knowing were it will go. Its future is as much in the hands of developers as it is in the hands of Apple.

Who could picture the future of aviation when they were watching the Wright brothers fly their first flight, which was less than the length of a Boeing 747. How useful could a machine be that had to land every few hundred feet. If successful it could only be used for fun, there was no practical use for it at all.

But there is a big big BIG MASSIVE difference between the past superb advances and the way a company like Apple conducts itself.

Advancements in the past, in Planes as you say and Computers of the past, was that everyone was pushing ans pushing the tech to advance in every direction as far and as hard as they could and that's how we got where we are today.

The big difference now, and you may not like this, is that a company like Apple whilst advancing on some areas is also BLOCKING things from advancing or Working for their own corporate interests.

We all know the iPad it held back in some areas, and every Apple tablet for the foreseeable future will be deliberately held back for a variety of reasons.

This is the main thing I dislike about Apple, Sorry, I'll rephrase that. What I dislike about Steve Jobs.

He is now, more than ever a company man, and the technical push is taking a back seat at times.

I think we all know, when it's up and running with HoneyComb, or perhaps even the next Android Tablet OS after that. THAT will be a more open system that will push forward in a more open way.

Not this year, probably a bit hit and miss next year, but by the end of 1012 I could easy see Android Tablets overtaking the iPad.
 
The iPad will only replace your desktop or laptop if you are working in the government and you watch PORN all day on the taxpayers dollar!:(
 
The iPad will only replace your desktop or laptop if you are working in the government and you watch PORN all day on the taxpayers dollar!:(

Come on, that's harsh ... It is not all Pron ... sometimes they work a little online Poker in there :cool:
 
History is repeating once again.

Several years ago, when laptops started to appear, people used to say that laptops were good for some tasks but if you wanted to do real work you'll need to use a desktop computer. Today, many people do no longer have desktops, only laptops, which are just as powerful and useful as desktop computers.
As the need for portability increases, Tablets are going to get as functional as laptops. You'll see; people will use tablets for almost everything. Give it a few years...
 
Several years ago, when laptops started to appear, people used to say that laptops were good for some tasks but if you wanted to do real work you'll need to use a desktop computer. Today, many people do no longer have desktops, only laptops, which are just as powerful and useful as desktop computers.

That's a different dynamic. Early laptops suffered from a crippling performance gap compared to desktops. Today, the performance gap between the average desktop computer and laptops is slight or nonexistent (heck, look at the iMac -- it basically *is* a laptop computer inside).

When people complain that tablets aren't suitable replacements they're not talking about performance but more fundamental limitations arising from the lack of powerful input options. It's more about the missing keyboard/mouse than it is about RAM or CPU. It's a different conversation.

As the need for portability increases
Begs the question -- why do you think the need for portability will increase in the future?

Tablets are going to get as functional as laptops.
How? I'm not saying it can't happen, but I will say that the path from here to there is not clear or well-defined. The magic device might never materialize. The missing thing that tablets would need before they can displace laptops has not been invented yet and it might never be invented. There's no way to know.
 
Of in 10 years time they could say to each other.

Remember those stupid Tablets that were all the rage a few years ago that you can to keep connecting to computers to get anything serious done on them.

Wonder where they all disappeared to ?

Probably be a collectors item someday :)

Despite TRYING to look all Star Wars and Star Trek. A REAL keyboard is still a better/nicer way of entering in text.

It's difficult to think where we will end up, but at the moment, we are a little bit form over function right now.

You don't REALLY want your keyboard blocking your display do you?
Not in an ideal world.
Not unless you had some other option.

True...Remember just a couple of years ago when everybody thought that netbooks were going to take over the world?
 
ipad is not and never will be a productivity tool... it's fun to fool around with on the couch but is way to heavy to take with you in my experience with the 16gb 3g version. My mbp 15" is the only thing i can imagine myself using for work and play.
 
I think of my iPad as in "in between" device, it's not enough to replace a laptop for my 3D Max work, but it is enough to replace it for non-essentials, like browsing the web, playing games, storing contacts, e-mail, social networking, watching movies, taking notes, browse galleries of my 3d work, make calls, connect to my iMac to check out the iSight cam while it's on (for security purposes), well...okay so pretty much my iPad replaces more tasks I can do on a tablet, than I do on a laptop with one exception only - 3d studio max.

I do believe an iPad can replace a laptop for taking charge of peoples personal tasks, the non-essential reasons people would normally carry a laptop around for, but for things like 3dmax and Autocad, laptops/desktops will continue to dominate- that is, until a "full fledged" power tablet device that can handle high-end demanding software, with an intuitive interface (would be neat to see someone come up with a touch interface for 3dmax.) I'd be game for learning it. ;)

As a side note; I have seen people in the medical profession using tablets, but they weren't iPads. (I don't know what they were using, but it was about the same size as an iPad (or nearly.)

I'm guessing there are a LOT of iPads out there, and from what I've read- they make a great time-sink for families, and a neat personal organizer and media device to carry around. (more comfortable than carrying a laptop around.) I can however, see them catching on as devices in the work place, without a doubt- but for the same price, as the highest end 3G iPad, you can get a really high-end laptop that can run $3,000 engineering software.
 
I think of my iPad as in "in between" device, it's not enough to replace a laptop for my 3D Max work, but it is enough to replace it for non-essentials, like browsing the web, playing games, storing contacts, e-mail, social networking, watching movies, taking notes, browse galleries of my 3d work, make calls, connect to my iMac to check out the iSight cam while it's on (for security purposes), well...okay so pretty much my iPad replaces more tasks I can do on a tablet, than I do on a laptop with one exception only - 3d studio max.

I do believe an iPad can replace a laptop for taking charge of peoples personal tasks, the non-essential reasons people would normally carry a laptop around for, but for things like 3dmax and Autocad, laptops/desktops will continue to dominate- that is, until a "full fledged" power tablet device that can handle high-end demanding software, with an intuitive interface (would be neat to see someone come up with a touch interface for 3dmax.) I'd be game for learning it. ;)

As a side note; I have seen people in the medical profession using tablets, but they weren't iPads. (I don't know what they were using, but it was about the same size as an iPad (or nearly.)

I'm guessing there are a LOT of iPads out there, and from what I've read- they make a great time-sink for families, and a neat personal organizer and media device to carry around. (more comfortable than carrying a laptop around.) I can however, see them catching on as devices in the work place, without a doubt- but for the same price, as the highest end 3G iPad, you can get a really high-end laptop that can run $3,000 engineering software.

Funnily enough I use 3D modelling software also, and Photoshop etc.

It's just what suited.

Humans did not go though tens of thousands of years of evolution and learning to make tools that enabled us to do things otherwise impossible to go back to finger painting on cave walls, or like a baby does as it does not know how to use a brush yet :)

I can't see ever getting over that hurdle.

We have highly advanced brains and muscle control and excellent eyesight, and humans can use very find controls using the right tools.

Plonking your fat finger on a touch screen is just not going to cut it, unless you want to be zooming in and out all day long.

Yes, superb for some things, totally useless for other things.

Sorry Steve Jobs, but if you are EVER going to get a tablet to be useful for serious work, then you are going to have to make it usable with an optional fine tipped stylus.

Stevey Boy may not like it, or want to admit it, but nothing else it going to work.

There is no shame in a stylus, and it's only for some work.

Be all know you could fit a stylus inside the iPad's body, and pull it out to use say a Cad, or Modelling package on a Tablet.

You won't need it for playing games.

Perhaps you want to sign your name on screen, well then you would again use the stylus.

Or on an art program, you would use the Stylus as a brush, then place the stylus back in it's internal holder for wed browsing with your fingers again.

Really, it's obvious, you NEED to have both options, and they you have answered many of the problems that a touch screen brings.

I accept they need to work some more on the screen tech to be able to do this with a fine tipped stylus.

But please Steve, no silly childish comments about Stylus = Fail.

You are a grown man and know better than that.

Some software just is not suitable for a finger tip, and probably never will be.
 
i do IT support for a government organisation in the UK which has many thousands of users, our users do pretty much every public service job going from legal, social care, highways maintenance, schools etc the list is massive.

In light of my experience of supporting people across a broad base of job descriptions i can't see iPads/tablets taking over from standard pcs for a LONG time.

Overall corporate IT seems to be moving much more towards centralised computing/storage and virtualisation of desktops which at present doesnt fit very well with current tablets. We have had a few at work but mainly as testers which have ended up with IT managers as play things (like the windows tablets years back)

There are definatly a few things holding them back from totally replacing desktop pcs and laptops in the corporate environment:
- no Active Directory integration or account profiles
- limited data security options e.g. encryption
- No remote assistance solutions
- having to rely on iTunes to deploy software
- no file system (or native access to shared network volumes)
- poor office applications (my manager often complains he has difficulty with Numbers even inserting cells etc)
- Multitasking isnt up to par with PCs (some users have ALOT of things open at the same time which doesnt work well on iPad!)
- the smaller screens of tablets aren't ideal for real design work.
- We can't actually use them on our corporate network as IOS devices (or Android for that matter) don't comply with Government data security regulations (CoCo)

Don't get me wrong i love my iPad its great, but they have a long way to go before they can complelty topple a world of of "real business IT" built up over decades on PCs
 
I think a lot of people have a very narrow vision of what constitutes work and seem to think it's all writing reports and filling in spreadsheets.

In labs and hospitals a lot of the work involves working from SOPs, reading papers from Pubmed, filling in small amounts of data in batch records, perusing data generated by machines, keeping up-to-date on office and collaborator email, filling in a schedule at meetings. I can easily imagine an iPad fitting well into the scientific environment where a laptop would be unusable, get in the way, or simply not be allowed, while being more comfortable to read from and more portable.

When you're back at your desk, you can always use a standard computer for the heavy duty text and spreadsheet work.

The iPad requires some maturation, but I believe they could largely replace other portable computers in many workplaces.
 
In my line of work we no longer carry laptop for our work .now the techs carry a ipad with netbook with cable item to hook up to the main frame to load our workprogram updates as they are need ..
 
Substitute with ANY work - its simply impossible to do work on an iPad....its not practical. Thankfully I never purchased mine with any expectation of doing such a thing..it makes a great gaming and 'quick browsing' device...not much more ;)

That's not what the iPad commercial I just saw, said ;)
 
True...Remember just a couple of years ago when everybody thought that netbooks were going to take over the world?

No. EVERYBODY never did think under powered junky net books, designed for third world nations, but embraced by tight assed son's of bitches, would ever take over the world.


For everyone else....

As far as lugging around a BT keyboard, Zagg case, with built in BT keyboard.
Excel? The recent Numbers update just made it usable for me. Also isn't it rumored that MS is developing office for iPad ?

File system ? Drop Box and Goodreader gives me somewhat of a file system. (No, it's not like on a PC, but it does what's needed). I have never had a problem emailing spreadsheets.

Learn how to use the iPad, and open your minds.

Oh, and most gov agencies over aggressively block porno sites, and poker games can be played without flash.
 
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Just keep this in mind, that the QWERTY keyboard arrangement that we are all used to exists because it was necessary to slow down typists on mechanical typewriters, not because they are more efficient.

This is a common misconception.

QWERTY was designed by one particular typewriter maker (there were many) specifically to try to avoid the collision of the mechanical letter arms.

It was not meant to slow down a typist. It was meant to avoid slowing down the typist.
 
Funny thread. I love my iPad, but it's a toy. Surfing, email, games, movies...

I spent time researching with word processor to get. Never use it. Seriously, I've opened up a few spreadsheets for a quick view, but work? No way.

I do *however* use Logmein to do a few things work related on the iMac on my desk back at the office.

What a fantastic toy though. ;)
 
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