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Better battery, better camera, better Bluetooth, larger storage.

That's all they can do to it. Pick two to actually have upgraded.

Wow, talk about thinking outside the box!

What about a custom-designed chipset, more RAM, non-underclocked processor? Have you forgotten about the possibility mentioned some time ago about LED indicator lights that can shine through the LCD when the screen is off? What about an additional button (please, don't start crying) for voice dialing? Stereo speakers? Solar powered LCD? Proximity sensors for increased multi-touch functionality? There are hundreds of things that can be done to the iPhone, even if many seem stupid. But really, you think that only the minimal and most obvious upgrades that even warrant the term "upgrade" is all they can do? All that sounds like is the XX Gb iPhone 3G+.
 
Better battery, better camera, better Bluetooth, larger storage.

That's all they can do to it. Pick two to actually have upgraded.

If the larger storage (thank you for not calling it "memory") isn't there, I'd be shocked.

Everything else I don't see a reason why it wouldn't happen, but you never know. That bloody phone NEEDS A2DP so I can get more use out of my bluetooth headset. The camera isn't a clincher for me, but you gotta do something to it after a couple of years.
 
It's been awhile, but i'd imagine that they'll boost not only the battery (afterall, didn't the keynote say they were making multiple models of new battery?), the GPS chip/antennae potentially, but also the sensor to do video. larger storage i'd imagine also (though they could roll out a 32GB a while after WWDC).

Another potential hardware feature - extend the feature in the Touch for Nike.Having spoken with a Nike rep, I hear the feedback on the Nike+ is big. Here's to hoping Apple allows a Nike++ dongle/internal comms for the Touch and iPhone, to get ANT+ like equipment to work. Might be a niche market, but if you had this capability, the telemetry you could capture would be great. Doesn't have to be 2.4GHz Heart Rate monitoring at all. (Garmin owns ANT effectively, which might explain a few things).

Aren't most people expecting v3 iPhone announcement at WWDC irrespective of a bump beforehand?
 
Wow, talk about thinking outside the box!

What about a custom-designed chipset, more RAM, non-underclocked processor? Have you forgotten about the possibility mentioned some time ago about LED indicator lights that can shine through the LCD when the screen is off? What about an additional button (please, don't start crying) for voice dialing? Stereo speakers? Solar powered LCD? Proximity sensors for increased multi-touch functionality? There are hundreds of things that can be done to the iPhone, even if many seem stupid. But really, you think that only the minimal and most obvious upgrades that even warrant the term "upgrade" is all they can do? All that sounds like is the XX Gb iPhone 3G+.

Yes, Apple can potentially do a lot to actually upgrade the 3G. But Tallest Skil is probably right. Look what Apple did to upgrade the initial iPhone to the 3G; not a whole lot. They gave it slightly better battery life and GPS. That's it. So, don't hold your breath for some earth-shaking upgrade.
 
What is the benefit of an underclocked processor in the iPhone? Better battery life possibly?

Then again, it's a phone. Even Blackberry's that run 600MHz tend to have better battery life than the iPhone. Why is that?
 
Another potential hardware feature - extend the feature in the Touch for Nike.Having spoken with a Nike rep, I hear the feedback on the Nike+ is big.

But, can't the iPhone already do this? I have apps right now that can map where I have run, how many miles I have gone, and my average speed during the run. This all due to the GPS chip the phone has. And I aleady know there are even better exercise apps on the App Store than the one I currently have - ones where you can upload your training onto a website.
 
Better battery, better camera, better Bluetooth, larger storage.

That's all they can do to it. Pick two to actually have upgraded.

More operating RAM (most of Safari's crashes are caused by this). Faster processor or graphics chip.

I see no reason they couldn't do all of these.

Phazer
 
I think the reason they haven't implemented A2DP yet is 2 fold, 1 is battery ... clearly Apple are cautious when it comes to battery estimates and consumption..

2nd though is that A2DP is crap .... i've tried about 3 different sets of Bluetooth headphones with an A2DP enabled device and i was amazed at how bad it sounded.

I think they might just not implement it until it becomes a nice sounding audio experience
 
But, can't the iPhone already do this? I have apps right now that can map where I have run, how many miles I have gone, and my average speed during the run. This all due to the GPS chip the phone has. And I aleady know there are even better exercise apps on the App Store than the one I currently have - ones where you can upload your training onto a website.

Yes, there is, but i'm talking about adding a wireless HR monitor being able to interact with and log info on a Touch/iPhone. Think having compatability with a ANT+ style wireless heart rate monitor, like you can with the Forerunner 405. The iPhone/Touch could effectively jump into Garmin's market.

Currently the Nike+ does:
http://www.apple.com/ipod/nike/run.html
Running with the Nike+ shoe/sensor:
iPod gets info on your time, distance, pace, and calories burned.

At the gym, on a compatible gym machine, you can actually plug in your iPod/iPod Touch: http://www.apple.com/ipod/nike/workout.html and then can choose playlist/video, and get a charge at the same time.(Not that many gyms have this kit!)

"Start pedaling, climbing, or stepping. Your pace, distance, time, and calories burned are recorded as you go. When you’re done, you’ll see a summary of your workout on the cardio equipment. And it’s all saved on your iPod."
 
see now i dont know if i should get the iphone now or wait:rolleyes: When will it be announced any ideas?
 
Yes, Apple can potentially do a lot to actually upgrade the 3G. But Tallest Skil is probably right. Look what Apple did to upgrade the initial iPhone to the 3G; not a whole lot. They gave it slightly better battery life and GPS. That's it. So, don't hold your breath for some earth-shaking upgrade.

I agree too. There's a lot of little things they can do on a new model, but I don't expect anything "groundbreaking", like increasing the resolution of the screen, any big improvements to processor speed, entirely different form factors, etc.

They just said they view the iPhone as a software platform, which means to me they don't want multiple incompatible versions out there. They will continue their strategy of getting lots of handsets out there to foster the growth of the app store, and perhaps they will offer a big OS update at a reasonable cost to realize some revenue from existing customers and sell more phones to new customers.

Apple's comment about the iPhone as a software platform leads me to believe they could be more open than typical smartphone manufacturers to make BIG improvements to the OS, at a price (ie. like offering Snow Leopard to Mac users). I hope so. Heck they could add the best features of the Pre to the existing iPhone OS and make it a KILLER platform for everyone.
 
I hope they have the custom chip ready that dramatically speeds operations. It would be awesome if applications loaded instantly for example. If they add the new chip, I would also expect better power consumption, so the battery will probably be better, too. Finally, I want more operating RAM so that programs like SIM City don't crash constantly, and more applications can push the limits. Also, a faster processor and more memory will allow more background applications, which would be wonderful. Also, a better camera would be wonderful.

I think Apple's already got the perfect new platform device. They just need to burnish what they have at this point.
 
What is the benefit of an underclocked processor in the iPhone? Better battery life possibly?

Then again, it's a phone. Even Blackberry's that run 600MHz tend to have better battery life than the iPhone. Why is that?

That's exactly why. I know that Windows would not run my Dell laptop's processor at full speed most of the time when I was on battery as part of power conservation. I haven't noticed a need for a faster CPU until lately when some stuff seems to lag a little bit. But it's still plenty good for my use most of the time.
 
That's exactly why. I know that Windows would not run my Dell laptop's processor at full speed most of the time when I was on battery as part of power conservation. I haven't noticed a need for a faster CPU until lately when some stuff seems to lag a little bit. But it's still plenty good for my use most of the time.

Yes but look at the Blackberry Bold. It runs around 600MHz but still has higher battery than the iPhone. The iPhone runs at a little less than half of its 620 Mhz and the batter is still crappy.
 
Yes but look at the Blackberry Bold. It runs around 600MHz but still has higher battery than the iPhone. The iPhone runs at a little less than half of its 620 Mhz and the batter is still crappy.

The iPhone runs at 420mhz so not quite half... The storm also runs (at least in USA) on a different network type than iphone which may or may not be more power efficient ... frequency of networks due to their penetration capabilities can drastically alter a phones life if its not having to hunt as hard for good signal...
THe Storm has a 1400mAh battery ... iPhone 3g has an 1150mAh battery

The storm is a little more spacious (its not quite as thin as isphone)

Also, i know with my own iPhone, to get a true feeling of how long the battery could last under "normal" use is kinda impossible .... i could never leave my iphone apps alone for the 2 or 3 days it would take to kill the battery .... as it is i typically enjoy about 1.5 days of life from the battery and find that totally acceptable for a smartphone.
 
Apple has invested and bought a stake in the company that makes the PowerVR chip, they bought a high-performance, low-consumption chip design company .... they signed a deal with LG to get LED LCD's and OLED displays ...

There will be an iPhone 3.0 in june, with significant new internals and a new iPhone OS

Whilst the I think the investment in power VR is a sign that the hardware will be used in a forth coming iPhone I dont believe it will be in June. I think WWDC will be reserved for Snow Leopard, WWDC is after all supposed to be centred on software, and think Snow Leopard will have plenty of features that they will want to discuss - like using both gpu's (9400 and 9600) in the Macbook pro's thro grand central/CUDA

The LG deal is more likely to do with iMac screens and cinema displays than iphone, the oled may be iPhone that would be cool but i think the main reason on this deal is more likely an Apple TV - TV with the hardware built in http://mygadgetlife.co.uk/start/?p=238

I do however think there will be a new iPhone this year but i think it will be towards the end of the year August/September time. I think Apple want to avoid the Macworld effect of launching products to known time tables and so will vary the releases. iPods however are different as its a Christmas/stocking filler type purchase so people expect them to be updated once a year.

Another reason for the later in the year feeling is that its too soon from the Imagination investment for the PA Semi guys to get to work on modding the design to suit the work theyve been doing on the new Arm Coretex chip. That said it might be that the next iPhone gets ver 3.0 software and no major internal upgrades save a new camera and the big hardware bump gets saved for next year.
 
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