Well, we don´t have Apple Stores in Denmark. The closest thing is www.humac.dk, and they are usually rather empty. Maybe because Mac´s are very, expensive over here.
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No one's buying MacBooks. Why?
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OP the price has gone from merely extortionate to ridiculous
I'm sure most people buying MacBooks have no idea what the cycles are. iPhone's maybe slightly different. Even so, 25% of their average sales is still a ton of sales.
Statistically the observations are flawed. What day of the week was the observation? What day of the month as well? Then we have to know the time of day. These all matter. A single observation or two without a sound methodology is just that, a single observation.
Last week the large movie theater in town was mostly empty. Why aren't people going to the movies? But we know people still attend movies. My observation was mid-evening on a Wednesday, which in this town is pretty dead for things like movies and shopping. Meaning this is when my wife and I go and do the things that are otherwise too crowded for us.
Take into consideration one other value to be measured. How many people are buying their MacBooks online? Maybe the people in the stores are there because of immediate delivery or questions and at the time of your observation no one needed a MacBook right then. My wife and I purchased her MBP from the store because we needed immediate delivery. Myself, I ordered online. My need was not immediate possession.
Finally, a lot of people go to the Apple stores for other reasons, not just to purchase a MacBook.
How is the price ridiculous?
My loaded MacBook Air cost 1528.00. My 13" base touchbar was less than 300.00 more and is VASTLY superior. My 15" touchbar cost just 250.00 more than my 2015 retina version and again is superior.
Apple has always been a premium seller. We just had two brand new Dell laptops fail on a shoot, while the new MacBooks are flawless. You get what you pay for.
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Didn't they sell some record number of MacBooks last quarter? Look at actual data not anecdotal evidence. This thread is worthless.
Where I live (i.e. not in the US), the price of 2 year old refurbs is the same as they cost new a couple of years back. They are gone very expensive in EURO and pound. Genuinely - even if I didn't have issues with the 2016 MBP, the price hs gone o high here I simply would not buy one when I can get a Dell with better spec for €1000 less. Its not even a question I would consider like.
Just took 15 seconds to google:
https://www.google.com/amp/www.macworld.co.uk/news/apple/apple-q2-2017-financial-results-revenue-figures-apple-earnings-report-3581769/?amp
In reference to the 2nd Quarter of 2017:
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Why would I want to drive to the other side of the country to go buy something they don't have in stock so they have to order it and I have to come back when all I can do is do that ordering at home and have the machine delivered at my doorstep?
Btw, in my case the Apple Store in the neighbouring country is closer than any of the Apple Stores in my own country.
People here seem to forget that a lot of people are not going to physical stores for a lot of things. Instead they are buying them online because a lot of the articles can be found cheaper online and some an awful lot cheaper when bought from some online shop in China. In The Netherlands this has caused many big retail companies to reorganise and even go bankrupt. You need to offer something unique be it the product, the experience or both (we are seeing more shops offering food and drinks alongside their original products like books, clothes, etc.).
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You said a "record number of MacBooks" which is incorrect.
Q1 results recorded the 4th highest # of Macs sold (all macs, not just MacBooks) at 5.37 Million.
The most recent quarter, which you linked to, showed only 4.119 Million Macs sold (so way way below any record # of Macs).
In the higher Q1 results, it was a record for Mac revenue - Not shocking with the ridiculous price jacking. Bean Counter Tim is all about ASP's.
"Apple said it sold approximately 5.37 million Macs during the December quarter, a 1.2% gain over the same period the year before and the fourth-largest number ever."
http://www.computerworld.com/articl...-sales-slump-with-record-revenue-of-7-2b.html
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If you want to understand those numbers then you have to look at the previous ones and compare all of them. If you do then you should see that there has been a decline in sales of computers in general. There has been a time where Apple's Macs did fine in that climate but that changed. Even Macs went down in sales. The current numbers show that this is no longer the case and have even been the highest compared to the previous numbers. The difference isn't that much though and things might change.
To stress: we are talking about a YoY overall record here because you have to look at all the YoY results to make any sense out of it.
To stress: we are talking about a YoY overall record here because you have to look at all the YoY results to make any sense out of it.
Sigh...
The punt here is that the new MBP is a problem. Except it's a roaring success.
The facts are simple. The new MPB is the best yet from Apple and has sold well. This is a VAST improvement over my excellent 2015 MPB, smaller, lighter, better screen, faster, better speakers...pretty much improved in ALL respects.
It's time for the bashers to read the crayon on the wall. Once again Apple won by releasing a fully found and rounded product with minimal problems. If you were unlucky and had an issue, that's a shame, but don't be silly by trying to turn it into some giant failure for Mac.
I have family with Apple. I doubt they lie to me. Apple is VERY happy with how the new MBP is doing and the upcoming tweaks will push the success even further.
These are the best laptops I've ever owned and I've owned many. If you're missing out over a dongle or some other minority issue, too bad. But believe me, Apple won't miss you anymore than Canon did when I switched to Nikon over fairly small quibbles. Spend your money as you please as there are many choices.
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The punt here is that the new MBP is a problem. Except it's a roaring success.
The facts are simple. The new MPB is the best yet from Apple and has sold well. This is a VAST improvement over my excellent 2015 MPB, smaller, lighter, better screen, faster, better speakers...pretty much improved in ALL respects.
It's time for the bashers to read the crayon on the wall. Once again Apple won by releasing a fully found and rounded product with minimal problems. If you were unlucky and had an issue, that's a shame, but don't be silly by trying to turn it into some giant failure for Mac.
I have family with Apple. I doubt they lie to me. Apple is VERY happy with how the new MBP is doing and the upcoming tweaks will push the success even further.
These are the best laptops I've ever owned and I've owned many. If you're missing out over a dongle or some other minority issue, too bad. But believe me, Apple won't miss you anymore than Canon did when I switched to Nikon over fairly small quibbles. Spend your money as you please as there are many choices.
R.
I'm not sure if you were referring to my post or another.
I was directly responding to @Gregintosh who claimed or was sort of insinuating that Apple had sold the most MacBooks ever (in units) in Q2, which is not true.
#1 - They don't break out the product lines for us
#2 - Even if they did, it almost certainly didn't happen in Q2, as Q1 had over a million more Macs sold and even that # of units sold was only 4th highest all time.
The records that have really been happening are on revenue - No shock there due to the price increases.
My point is that Apple is selling as many or more MacBooks than they ever have. They're certainly not slowing down. There's seasonality to MacBook sales so you gotta look at the comparables to see how they're doing. They're going up year over year. So people are definitely buying MacBooks. ;-)
I agree - I was just pointing out that neither Q1 or Q2 were record numbers of Mac's sold (which you'd hinted towards).
That said, it's not been all up over time for Macs and I'd personally argue there was pent up demand waiting on the 2016 MacBook Pro refresh to a rather old form factor (and mainly just newer specs).
Should be interesting to see how it looks over the course of this entire year.
All in all it's tough since they don't break down the individual lines for analysis.
Exactly. There were 10 good reasons to kick my year-old 15" MBP out the door when these new machines came to be. And there were a couple of seriously lame and weak reasons not to upgrade.
Like many people (as Apple's sales show), I made a good choice and these machines are MUCH better than I realized initially. Once I learned the keyboard and trackpad, I worked better and faster. The screen is a HUGE upgrade if you shoot professionally as I do.
I'm looking forward to the next MBP!
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I just have to say that I wish that was my life! You are very lucky!
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Psssst: Thats still kinda good...
Hardly "No one..." but troll away.
I'll never get the "Mac bashing mentality."
Stories of empty stores, rampant defects, expensive must-have dongles....it's a hilarious, if small, backlash of underfunded basement dwellers and technerds expecting Apple to build a computer just for them.
But the reality is simple and I have two of the new machines in front of me. Best yet from Apple. Period. But that doesn't mean it's best for everyone.
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Stories of empty stores, rampant defects, expensive must-have dongles....it's a hilarious, if small, backlash of underfunded basement dwellers and technerds expecting Apple to build a computer just for them.
But the reality is simple and I have two of the new machines in front of me. Best yet from Apple. Period. But that doesn't mean it's best for everyone.
R.
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(sometimes no choice - repair as one example)
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My friend - Nothing about it was trolling..
I was at no point responding to the OP topic title.
We had an incorrect suggestion about a "record number of MacBooks sold".
I was simply clarifying that point with actual data - Something this forum could use a lot more of.
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Apple did in fact sell a RECORD number of 15" laptops. It generated the highest revenue for them, partially fueled by the higher price.
So, while specific data is not available, he was generally correct. And of course the real question is whether or not Apple got a home run with the new machines and the answer is YES.
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