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I feel like updated iMacs will be more powerful than available mac pros.

It depends how you define more powerful. Mac Pros do offer certain functionality that you can't fully duplicate in an imac. For a lot of people the imacs may be more practical, but the cpu bump will be quite modest compared to the laptops. If you don't believe me, check geekbench scores on the appropriate cpu types for yourself.

All of that doesn't change the fact : right now, getting the Retina display is essentially a cost free option at the spec levels of the machine. There is no reason to believe an iMac would use a different strategy.

Again : Just providing evidence to support the fact that a Retina iMac would not be more expensive than a comparably configured normal iMac following Apple's strategy for it in its other devices (iPhone/iPad/MBP).

You did notice all the posts in this thread saying an iMac would be ludicrously expensive with a Retina display right ? ;) (and they keep posting this stuff, even after we keep refuting it. I think some people just post without reading the comments first).

I read the majority of the comments. There's no real way of knowing if yields would be high/cheap enough to make this currently viable. I kind of doubt it. Notebook displays like I said were inching up a lot faster even if Macbook Pros didn't always incorporate the highest resolution. They mostly stayed with stable designs. It'll be interesting to see what they do here. This is the first time I've seen them use a fully custom panel as opposed to just a custom implementation.
 
What I hope is that Apple doesn't pull a 17" Macbook Pro and try to "replace" the 27" iMac with a Retina 21" or 24".

That would p*ss me off further and significantly delay me from replacing anything. I'm sure others feel the same way...

Bigger is better...;)

Seriously.

I want a 30" 16:10 Retina.
 
I think some people just post without reading the comments first.

i'm gonna go with 99% of people post without reading first. The same amount of people that seemingly post total nonsensical rubbish also! It really bugs me, but at the same time provides some pretty entertaining reading as well!
 
If I hold my iPhone 3GS 5 feet away it is retina!!! So why would I need an iPhone 4 or 4s ;).

Seriously, the higher res the better!! If the rMBP was higher res it would look better at 1080 p. a retina iMac could be set to 1080p without looking fuzzy for older users with less than perfect eyesight.
 
I'll be honest, retina displays look very nice. Anyone who's seen one will attest it. But in my opinion, and this is only my opinion, the current iMac and TB display are gorgeous. While we would probably see a difference I don't know if it's going to be as dramatic as on a 15" screen.

I think the deciding factors of when we might see large retina displays lays with the developers. I can guarantee that some web developers are not going to go out of their way to make every imager retina ready. In the big scheme of things Mac users make up a very small percentage of web surfers. I'm not including iPad or iPhone for this argument because design and development for those two platforms is different than for large format screens. That small percentage of mac users is going to get even smaller when retina displays are released. Meaning that there will be even fewer Mac users with retina displays.

It's a bit like developers not supporting internet explorer (v6 or earlier). Even though a lot of people still used it and even now still use it, designers and developers have stopped optimizing for ie for a number of years now.

If of course Windows PCs come out with retina displays then that will have a tremendous impact on how developers are going to work. I think until that happens the retina experience is going to be fair at best.

Yes application developers like Adobe will optimize their software but I wonder at pace that will happen. It happened pretty quickly with the iPad but that's because it's the only game in town when it comes to tablets. PCs are a different story.

I predict that the sales figures for the current RMBP will not be as high as a lot of people seem to think. I think for that reason too it will be longer before we see the iMac with retina.

I for one am buying a non retina MacBook pro next week. I just want to be able to turn it on and go to work. I don't want to scale anything or change resolutions for different situations or anything like that. I just want everything to look right no matter what I'm doing or what site I'm visiting.
 
Hopefully Thunderbolt displays will be updated with USB and released around that time.. THat's usually the case right? They update the displays shortly after the iMacs?
 
I went to an Apple store today and played with the RMBP and the MBP15 and MBP13. The reps argued with me when I said they all had USB3. She and he were convinced and demanded they only had USB2.

That said, zero Macs in the store had more than one display attached. I just wanted to see how the latest Macs dealt with X number of displays, preferably 3+. No joy.

I'm old and got my very first glasses today and the retina was visibly better, but not day to day better for most things I actually do. If the graphics capacity issue is addressed for 2-3 external monitors, even the 13 will serve my > than Mini requirements for my very next unit.

There is officially a missing accessory. Let's call it the Rocketman accessory. A port plug strip that keeps dust and moisture out of exposed plug holes in adverse conditions. Cheapest part ever. Maybe I'll sell a colored roll of masking tape in the Apple store, but that would not be very Apple-ly. :(

Rocketman
 
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1. If Apple is willing to make a bit less how is that anyone's business

2. if they include the screen they will include the hardware to run it. That's how Apple works.

Thanks for reading the previous comments, that is exactly what i implied, meaning the computer would cost quite a bit.

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The ipad 3 sold for the same prices as did the ipad 2, the same held true for iphone 4.

Ok so? Like i said apple took a lower profit margin and made up the difference with other hardware becoming cheaper.
 
Cost is too high to produce retina iMac.

Expecting retina 27 iMac is simply insane this year.
 
Ok so? Like i said apple took a lower profit margin and made up the difference with other hardware becoming cheaper.

Other hardware becoming cheaper??? You mean as in less expensive or of lower quality? If the latter I'd like to some evidence for that. The claim seems spurious.
 
i don't think that this guy understands what retina displays are... those specs are unreal... and at a reasonable distance from a 27" screen i think you only need 20-30% more pixels than what we currently have...I bet a 3200 * 1800 pixel display would be in the range of a retina display... one where you can't tell the difference of 1 pixel from the next...
 
"Irregardless" ??

Seriously?

Eh, give him a break. It's late on a Friday nite. Maybe a couple drinks and you know, words just start sounding good in your head, LOL. I'm sure you've been in a bar and had a couple over the limit and you say to your friends, "Okay I got to get going home irregardless you know the wife be pissed". But in your head it sounded more like "Hey guys it's getting late and I've had enough. Plus I don't want my wife to be angry". It happens, true story bro LOL!!!

Ah hell, it is getting late :D
 
This is disappointing if true. I got my retina Mbp and between that and the iPad 3, I can't take regular displays. I have already sold my non retina macs.
 
I would be happy if Scientology would really release the new iMac together with Mountain Lion, I'm waiting to switch from PC to Mac like many others here. A fall release wouldn't be the end of the world, but it seems rather late for an update, no?

Tom Cruise dancing in his tighty whities because he's so excited about the iMac Retina.
 
Why would they wait then just to release an iMac speed bump in August/Sept when they could have done that last week at WWDC like they did with the regular MBPRo and MBAir? The Ivy Bridge desktop chips are available and have been for a while.

The ONLY sensible logic/reason for the iMAC to not have been updated at WWDC is that they are working on a Retina version of it.

I mean...releasing it when Lion is release and just with a speed bump...can't see Apple doing that at all.

Something else is going down..otherwise the iMac would have been released already.
 
None of you are familiar with studies behind 4K, 8K resolutions? Limits of human visual system (expressed as angular resolution)? No?
It's sad, reading all those "it's already close to retina" comments.
 
first imac rumor in a while and it just talks about next year stuff? What about this year stuff??? I don't care if retina or no I just want an up to date iMac

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None of you are familiar with studies behind 4K, 8K resolutions? Limits of human visual system (expressed as angular resolution)? No?
It's sad, reading all those "it's already close to retina" comments.

99% of people go off their experience rather than physics :p I do too

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because no one wants to go from a 27" 2011 model to a 27" 2012 model (with retina) and see their computer performing below that of the 2011 model.
 
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