This is the thing that honestly has frustrated me the most with Apple over the last few years. People say they release products "when they are ready". I say bull crap. Some magical way they ALL happen to be ready during a 2 month period in the fall.
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No Revamped Apple TV or iWatch Expected at WWDC
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VeryVito
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Does anyone really give a rat's @$$ about a health info app?
As a developer, I honestly could not care less about a health-spying app that comes bundled (and presumably will be as undeletable as Apple's stock, weather and passbook apps) with the iPhone. I consider such built-in apps as little more than bloatware, so I truly hope Cook & Co. don't really plan to pretend this will be of interest to the general population of developers.
I of course want to know what's new in iOS and OS X, but in all honestly, it's the possibility of an Apple TV App Store that would make my blood warm again. I'm beginning to think Apple is much further behind in the ATV process than they'd like anyone to believe (and losing ground every day as Comcast vies for Time-Warner and Amazon enters the fray).
The great thing about Apple has always been that "everything works" within its ecosystem, but lately, that feels far from true, as my Apple TV feels like the forgotten bastard son of my Mac and iPhone. With Amazon planning to enter the phone frenzy soon (now that they have their tablet and TV products talking to one another), Apple REALLY needs to step up its game in the living room.
As a developer, I honestly could not care less about a health-spying app that comes bundled (and presumably will be as undeletable as Apple's stock, weather and passbook apps) with the iPhone. I consider such built-in apps as little more than bloatware, so I truly hope Cook & Co. don't really plan to pretend this will be of interest to the general population of developers.
I of course want to know what's new in iOS and OS X, but in all honestly, it's the possibility of an Apple TV App Store that would make my blood warm again. I'm beginning to think Apple is much further behind in the ATV process than they'd like anyone to believe (and losing ground every day as Comcast vies for Time-Warner and Amazon enters the fray).
The great thing about Apple has always been that "everything works" within its ecosystem, but lately, that feels far from true, as my Apple TV feels like the forgotten bastard son of my Mac and iPhone. With Amazon planning to enter the phone frenzy soon (now that they have their tablet and TV products talking to one another), Apple REALLY needs to step up its game in the living room.
bushido
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ikr ... if they were going to open up the AppleTV in the future then i am sure they would have to announce the sdk at wwdc to have it ready by fall
mdridwan47
macrumors 6502
Half life confirmed !!!
Anyway this only confirms that apple is , in fact , working on an iwatch and a killer Apple TV
Anyway this only confirms that apple is , in fact , working on an iwatch and a killer Apple TV
Yeah its a developer conference. So if the rumors are true that Apple TV will get an App Store developers should know about it well ahead of time so they can have plenty of quality apps / games at launch.
i really like this concept from the picture of Apple TV and that remote controls with touch panels and colour match of the product, its really like Apple premium product
And for WWDC i really exited for the new interface for MACOS
And for WWDC i really exited for the new interface for MACOS
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
What? It's the WWDC. The point would be to get developer's developing for it. Another point would be to get people excited that it with an app store is coming.
Didn't Apple roll out a presentation of iOS app store potentials in advance so that developers could use the time between then and when there was an app store to develop some great apps to go into that store?
Doesn't Apple usually roll out "wow" new features of OS X and/or iOS at WWDC that is not yet in the current OS so that developers can work toward incorporating or taking advantage of those advances in their code before the new OS is released (on new or old hardware)?
Sure, announcing that new hardware is coming might make some buyers of an
TV NOT buy until it arrives but I doubt Apple would go under if a few in the know waited before parting with $100. Besides, at THE software developer event, why would they have to announce unreleased TV hardware? Instead, just announce the TV app store is coming and get the various software & training in developers hands & minds. Isn't that somewhat the point of WWDC? Later, roll out the new hardware when ready and launch with great, fully-baked
TV apps from third parties already in the store. If the new hardware had some features they didn't want to announce at WWDC, spring them on the world then, Apple's own apps could be first to take advantage of them and the developer community could then catch up with whatever else might be planned (just like it's usually done).I just find that bit I bolded a weird statement in this context. Or maybe that part is solely about iWatch?
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Nunyabinez
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The big question has always been, "can they introduce an app store for the existing Apple TV or will it require new hardware."
Given the storage limitations of the Apple TV 3 it's quite likely that an SDK and an app store will require new hardware. Though there may be ways to make it work on an Apple TV 3.
My assumption was that they would release an Apple TV SDK, and announce that they will be releasing a new Apple TV in the fall that comes with an app store.
This would totally be the place to do that since developers would need that time to create apps so that on launch day the app store has apps.
Given the storage limitations of the Apple TV 3 it's quite likely that an SDK and an app store will require new hardware. Though there may be ways to make it work on an Apple TV 3.
My assumption was that they would release an Apple TV SDK, and announce that they will be releasing a new Apple TV in the fall that comes with an app store.
This would totally be the place to do that since developers would need that time to create apps so that on launch day the app store has apps.
dannyyankou
macrumors Pentium
Those won't be announced at WWDC. The Roadmap for updated chipsets from Intel means we wouldn't see them until the fall like last year.
Exactly. Apple TV could be a major development platform. Even if they don't show new hardware, they can at least unveil the ATV app store. iWatch I would expect them to keep more under-wraps and not reveal the software until they announce the device. But ATV is a no-brainer. I mean, come on already Apple. It's long past time to get serious about your "hobby".
Agreed. WWDC is a Developer conference, intended to give devs a head start on developing for the new technologies Apple is introducing.
With that said, I think the real issue with the Apple release cycle is a lack of a Spring event. Apple used to release something in spring and then another batch of new products in Fall.
The lack of a non-fall product announcement makes the gap between their announcements pretty large.
The thing that makes no sense to me from this original article is-
Except Apple does this EVERY year at WWDC. Previewing new both iOS and OSX before their proper release (with new iOS Hardware) in the Fall.
AppleTV and Wearable products would both be new categories for developers. If there's going to be new apps ready for them at launch, they have to get developers moving months in advance.
Except Apple does this EVERY year at WWDC. Previewing new both iOS and OSX before their proper release (with new iOS Hardware) in the Fall.
AppleTV and Wearable products would both be new categories for developers. If there's going to be new apps ready for them at launch, they have to get developers moving months in advance.
Yes I was sort of hoping for a 12" Retina Air, but I realize it's not going to happen until Fall at least, so I bought a 2013 MBA on sale from Best Buy yesterday. At this rate they may not release it until 2015 anyway.
Software and services right now are the weakest points of Apple and so, I'm glad to hear it is the only focus at WWDC.
Apple's doing just fine on hardware but they continue to fall behind on software and services.
1. Maps needs more data points.
2. iCloud needs to get cheaper, get more storage, reliable, more powerful, and something that the freaking developers can use. No blackbox for customers to see what's going on in the backend is killing many developers. There are too many glitches that often requires you to kill all iCloud data on your devices and resync it.
3. Also, an iCloud folder/drive on OSX (and iOS) would be nice.
3. iOS needs to be lighter, faster, more optimized for battery life. Expanded multi-tasking with an Intents-like API for sharing data between apps
4. OS X does not need to be completely redesigned to look like iOS 7. Less whitespace, not more.
And so on.
Apple's doing just fine on hardware but they continue to fall behind on software and services.
1. Maps needs more data points.
2. iCloud needs to get cheaper, get more storage, reliable, more powerful, and something that the freaking developers can use. No blackbox for customers to see what's going on in the backend is killing many developers. There are too many glitches that often requires you to kill all iCloud data on your devices and resync it.
3. Also, an iCloud folder/drive on OSX (and iOS) would be nice.
3. iOS needs to be lighter, faster, more optimized for battery life. Expanded multi-tasking with an Intents-like API for sharing data between apps
4. OS X does not need to be completely redesigned to look like iOS 7. Less whitespace, not more.
And so on.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
This keeps coming up. Just like when Apple sold 8GB or now 16GB iPhones,
TV runs just one app at a time. Just as it can stream one movie to show on screen from maybe hundreds stored on a hard drive elsewhere in the house, it could store hundreds of apps on a hard drive elsewhere in the house and stream the one someone wants to run at that moment.TV is always tethered to massive storage elsewhere in the house. It's not like the other iDevices that are sometimes disconnected from the house network, wifi and cellular and need a fair amount of on-board storage. What's the biggest app currently available for any iDevice? About 2GB maybe? The existing TV has about 3-4X that much space to store THAT app right now if you wanted to run that app right now. If not, choose any of the upwards of hundreds of others stored on the same hard drive(s) where big movie collections are stored and it can stream that app over and run it in it's limited space.Don't get me wrong. I miss the first generation benefit (hacked) to attach 2TB of storage locally to the
TV but I don't see why the new version needs more than 8GB to run pretty much any app that can be adapted from any app that will run on the other iDevices.The one thing I could see is RAM as some apps might need more RAM than is readily accessible in the existing
TV hardware.I was hoping to see the Apple TV software release so developers would be able to get on board for a fall release, but that's out the door.
Wasn't expecting the iWatch at all. Showing off the Healthbook app would be odd with no companion device, not sure how that would work.
WWDC predicitons:
(1) iMac: Spec update and dropped prices, similar to recent Macbook Air update
(2) Mac Mini: Redesign, thinner and smaller, possibly flash storage
(3) OSX: 10.10 preview, focused on visual redesign (some main feature will be crippled), Siri, Game Center dropped, the focus is largely on iOS integration and consistently across various devices (think Back to the Mac Event).
(4) iOS8: Preview, Textedit, Maps (transit may get shown off, not coming immediately), Tips, Siri gains Shazam, Healthbook (without iWatch...still weird)...sadly probably no quick reply or fixed music app which was gutted with iOS7, and still a static home screen with just icons
(5) iCloud: Preview, textedit, possible iDisk replacement but I doubt it
* Don't expect much more than this. Apple is on a "Fall Only" release schedule for the foreseeable future.
* Aperture update please?
Wasn't expecting the iWatch at all. Showing off the Healthbook app would be odd with no companion device, not sure how that would work.
WWDC predicitons:
(1) iMac: Spec update and dropped prices, similar to recent Macbook Air update
(2) Mac Mini: Redesign, thinner and smaller, possibly flash storage
(3) OSX: 10.10 preview, focused on visual redesign (some main feature will be crippled), Siri, Game Center dropped, the focus is largely on iOS integration and consistently across various devices (think Back to the Mac Event).
(4) iOS8: Preview, Textedit, Maps (transit may get shown off, not coming immediately), Tips, Siri gains Shazam, Healthbook (without iWatch...still weird)...sadly probably no quick reply or fixed music app which was gutted with iOS7, and still a static home screen with just icons
(5) iCloud: Preview, textedit, possible iDisk replacement but I doubt it
* Don't expect much more than this. Apple is on a "Fall Only" release schedule for the foreseeable future.
* Aperture update please?
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