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No Steve Ballmer Appearance at WWDC Keynote

mac*jedi*g said:
Who would want this crazy-a88 MoFo to speak at ANY Apple event unless it include him bending over and royally kissing Jobs' a88 on TV? I'll pay a dollar for that, and subscribe to "MicroSoft Weekly".
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(separates my sentence from yours with a space)
I dont know about all that dude,

But,
Both steve's have some really good aspects
I myself would like to this thread topic happen
 
if microsoft ever needs to present something im sure apple will get bill gates to present, that'd be pure hilarity
 
MacRumors said:
"...Nor riding in the Belmont"
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Aha!! They didn't say he wouldn't be running in the Belmont! I've seen Ballmer run, and while his style is unique, and he gets winded easily, he certainly does sprint well if he smells a developer nearby.
 
Black Macbook said:
Who are these so-called "analysts" by the way? And what makes them any different than any random person who is posting here? They get paid, regardless if they're right or wrong, while people here don't get paid to make bad predictions or silly assumptions.
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Right on! John Gruber and Daniel Eran Dilger keep a nice count of howoften these guys make totally wrong predictions vs. how often (meaning seldom) they hit it right.

See for instance Rob Enderle and his Cat for how often they get things right. Or Mary Jo Foley. Or Paul Thurrot. They are on retainer with MSFT and GOOG and Adobe to spin the news, and if there's no news, they create something outrageous and then they get quoted all over the net, thereby lending credence to their so-called predictions.

Others, like writers for The Street (Troy Wolferton) write stories simply to manipulate the market by placing shorts or calls on stocks depending on which way they think their "news" will tilt the market.

Extremely shoddy and I lay 90% of the blame at the feet of bloggers who don't take the time to verify the news independently. Oh no, that's too much work. We gotta be at the top and "report" this rumor. Hit whores all!
 
Stella said:
Yes, you would. Still, Apple would lose sales - since developers would be using windows - developers regularly out number the QA testers on project teams.

Anyway, for the moment, I'm glad this is not happening.

( partly why I'm not in favour of OSX development on Windows - If I'm developing for OSX - I'd want to use OSX - and not windows. Windows generally makes a horrible development environment ( depending on what your doing, of course - Java etc ). I'd rather the company being forced to buy OSX machines for development - rather than use windows. I'm absolutely sick of developing on windows on a daily basis. )
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Agreed. I guess VS is a much more mature software but it has a fatal flaw: it runs on windows :D

I am just one little guy for whom Xcode is more than enough :)
 
I knew Trip

I used to play Trivial Pursuit with Trip back in college. The guy has the brains of a turnip. The old dorm gang wonders to this day who he jerked off to get an analyst job. But I guess that can be said about any analyst.
 
Hello? If Apple doesn't team up with Microsoft then Google will take over the World.

Apple needs to partner with the Devil's son (MS) to be his father the actual Devil (Google)!
 
Black Macbook said:
Who are these so-called "analysts" by the way?

Those so-called "analysts" are often wrong and they often get their predictions completely 100% wrong! I don't trust them for crap!
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He isn't a "so-called" analyst. He is an analyst. He gets paid to analyze things. He performed an analysis. He may be a bad analyst, but he is still an analyst. You seem to be a bit confused. While it may feel good to add the "so-called" epithet (and make you feel superior or something), it isn't appropriate. He is a "real" analyst, though he apparently completely missed the boat on this one.
 
If there is any rumor I really wished would be true, it was this one. Even made it to page 1. :(
 
"..both MSFT and APPL are working on development tools."

Yes. Yes, they both are. Microsoft is working on .NET languages and Visual Studio, and Apple is working on Objective C (and friends) and Xcode. :D
 
I really wish Steve Ballmer was making an appearance at the Worldwide DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS DEVELOPERS Conference. :)
 
April Fool?

From what I can see the story about MS making a version of VS2010 for Mac OS X started out as an April fools joke! And if this is the case then, sorry Tim [the analyst], you should be fired!

On another point "if" MS did want to make VS available for Mac, that would be great IMO [here's one customer for them] - Apple wouldn't and indeed shouldn't want to stop them from doing it. The Mac is not the iPhone/iPad, anyone can write and release any sort of software they like for it, anyone including MS. Remember MS is a software company predominantly, so what do they get out of this - well sales of course [if people want to by it]. Let's face it, MS would be going up against XCode [which is FREE by the way] so why would Apple want to block this?

If VS was available, it would add another [very popular] dev. env. to the Mac. Apple is a hardware company predominantly and this means they need devs to write software for their platform - more choice people, how can that be a bad thing? Why should the end user even care which dev. env. was used to write the apps they use as long as they work?

It seems a lot of people on these forums are just anti MS and they don't seem to know why! Now that Apple is a bigger Co. than MS will they start bashing Apple instead? It's all very childish.
 
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