Nokia Series 60 Phones With iTunes?

[maxterpiece]

Motorola cell phones are horrible. They look pretty and usually have decent technical specs, but it has been my experience that they fall apart, and the software they use on them is by far the most annoying software of any cell phone.

I've never owned a Nokia, but if you look around you, you'll notice that most people who are still using their phones from like the year 2000 have clunky old Nokias that they refuse to give up. They make a quality product.

I think the cell phone industry is missing the same kind of product that the MP3 market was missing before the iPod: something that is stylish, and at the same time, totally user friendly and full of useful and easy to use features. Nokia would make a good partner for apple if they don't go it alone.

 

[iMeowbot]

So Nokia have supposedly forgotten how to spell 'calendar',

Maybe it is supposed to be "calender", and the new Nokia phones will have miniature laminating machines built in!

 

[DeepIn2U]

That's probably because Nokia makes 'smartphones' that look like normal phones, not half-PDA monstrosities. They have a whole line of phones that run Symbian Series 60, and are true 'smartphones'. Treos are PDAs with a cell phone crammed in. Blackberries are portable IM devices with a cell phone crammed in. Nokia's smartphones are more of a cell phone with good PDA features added.

LMAO! Man if only you truely knew the full power of a RIM BlackBerry! They are the only phones that can be software/firmware upgraded (well with just this feature their not alone anymore as SE phones new ones can, PocketPC/Smartphone from MS will many issues & unit diversities making it more than a chore; RIM where the pioneers in this regard for 4 years running) & downgraded (still the only units that can downgrade after a successful or failed upgrade by the owner with FULL warranty support!). BlackBerry's are incredible with reception (actually the only phones that not only tell you BARS for signal strength but if you have one you can goto Options>Status and see the signal strength rating as -78/ect dBm rating). Furthermore look at all the ppl wearing suits and look what their using. Their all speaking, IM, emailing - you know the recent 1.5yr craze of receiving your email in realtime ... um that started with RIM BlackBerry's not the Danger Inc Sidekick/Hiptops or anything else. And I do mean realtime. Scheduling is upmost including the Ajenda view. Please spend a week to play with one and not just read the news headlines to inform yourself about a wireless unit.

Um did you know that RIMS BlackBerry's are the only 1 complete solution to wirelessly secure (lock if lost/theft) firmware/software (complete firmware or individual software upgrade a specific software) wirelessly over GPRS/EDGE (depending on the unit, ie 7290=GPRS, 8700r/c=EDGE) ?!!! Sure their are some pocketpc's & Treo 600/650s that can with the competing GoodLink Technologies to do the same but again thats not a complete unit for unit on either of those OS' supported (ex not all MS smartphones are supported for such tasks by GoodLink)!!

Now this Nokia N80 is a real device but NO iTunes support. No question their; look, or download my photo I posted and take a look at the information of it. It'll tell you that it was made with Photoshop CS on a Macintosh, lol. Looks good doesnt it,

By the way In Canada & the US their are plenty of Nokia phones; most by contract (6102,6282 new, 3120, 3300, etc etc) by Rogers, Cingular, Tmobile, etc but smartphone wise I only know of the N-Gage carried in Canada by Fido, and in the US by Tmobile along with the 3650/60 by Tmobile. Their S60 phones are much more popular around the world.

Oh yeah someone though that 3G is more popular than EDGE? are you crazy?!
EDGE is in Canada & US Nationwide! Its also in Australia, South America in many countries full country coverage, and also no in France, a few countries in Africa, and in Italy nationwide for some time as well. It has more worldwide coverage than 3G due to its seemless integration with GPRS and low cost to implement & deploy. That will begin to change soon by mid 2006 though.

 

[Xeem]

I'll keep my Nokia observations relatively short:

1. I own an N-Gage QD, which came free with a contract the week the PSP was released, and it syncs perfectly with iCal and Address Book via Bluetooth on my iBook.

2. I have never seen anyone else with a Nokia smartphone, but I think the most popular phone I see (by some measure) is the Nokia 6010; it is not a smartphone, but it is very popular for those on a budget.

3. I would buy an N80 if it had iTunes, period. I want one anyways, and I feel that music functionality would finally make it a justifiable purchase.

 

[corywoolf]

Motorola cell phones are horrible. They look pretty and usually have decent technical specs, but it has been my experience that they fall apart, and the software they use on them is by far the most annoying software of any cell phone.

I've never owned a Nokia, but if you look around you, you'll notice that most people who are still using their phones from like the year 2000 have clunky old Nokias that they refuse to give up. They make a quality product.

I think the cell phone industry is missing the same kind of product that the MP3 market was missing before the iPod: something that is stylish, and at the same time, totally user friendly and full of useful and easy to use features. Nokia would make a good partner for apple if they don't go it alone.

ah-men to that, I just bought a new RAZR V3 from moviecutter and it is pretty good, but I went through 2 V180s that were defective (in a row) and finally just kept one of the defective ones and could only use speakerphone for a year. I like the solidness of the RAZR, but the usability is still horrendous.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

LMAO! Man if only you truely knew the full power of a RIM BlackBerry! They are the only phones that can be software/firmware upgraded (well with just this feature their not alone anymore as SE phones new ones can, PocketPC/Smartphone from MS will many issues & unit diversities making it more than a chore; RIM where the pioneers in this regard for 4 years running) & downgraded (still the only units that can downgrade after a successful or failed upgrade by the owner with FULL warranty support!). BlackBerry's are incredible with reception (actually the only phones that not only tell you BARS for signal strength but if you have one you can goto Options>Status and see the signal strength rating as -78/ect dBm rating). Furthermore look at all the ppl wearing suits and look what their using. Their all speaking, IM, emailing - you know the recent 1.5yr craze of receiving your email in realtime ... um that started with RIM BlackBerry's not the Danger Inc Sidekick/Hiptops or anything else. And I do mean realtime. Scheduling is upmost including the Ajenda view. Please spend a week to play with one and not just read the news headlines to inform yourself about a wireless unit.

Yes, RIM started it. I never said anything that they didn't. As for upgradeable/downgradable? S60 phones can do that, too. S60 phones have lots more third-party software available than anything but Palm, including software that duplicates all of the functionality you espouse above. I had a Crackberry as part of my job a few years ago. I just didn't like it. It felt too much like it was just a two-way pager. Yes, I've played with the newer ones, and they're a little better; but S60 is still a better smartphone OS. Palm and Windows are just too bloated, and RIM and SE are just too awkward to use. S60 is both fast, and simple; yet it does everything I've ever found I needed in a smartphone. (I wish more S60 phones were avaialble in the U.S. The N-Gage really has a crappy form factor for a phone; at least I have a Bluetooth headset.)

 

[Sammis89]

Even if the phone is a fake, i cant wait till nokia does some kind of phone with apple. I lvoe nokias. They have the best interfave, IMHO, and i think that the craftsmanship of nokia mixed with the style, craftsmanship, and reliability of apple would be a match made in heaven.

 

[DeepIn2U]

...S60 phones can do that, too. S60 phones have lots more third-party software available than anything but Palm, including software that duplicates all of the functionality you espouse above. I had a Crackberry as part of my job a few years ago. I just didn't like it. It felt too much like it was just a two-way pager. Yes, I've played with the newer ones, and they're a little better; but S60 is still a better smartphone OS. Palm and Windows are just too bloated, and RIM and SE are just too awkward to use. S60 is both fast, and simple; yet it does everything I've ever found I needed in a smartphone. (I wish more S60 phones were avaialble in the U.S. The N-Gage really has a crappy form factor for a phone; at least I have a Bluetooth headset.)

Wrong; name 1 just 1 S60 phone out right now that you can upgrade then downgrade the firmware?! Even with voiding the firmware its NOT possible (6600/6620/6630/6280/6682/N70/N90/3650/3660/7610/3230/N-Gage/N-Gage QD; etc) NON of them you can upgrade the firmware yourself without voiding the warranty. And even with the N90 I still think the CPU vs the higher resolution is too slow. UIQ as an interface (the current 2.1 & upcoming 3.0) is much faster than the S60; although the N91/N80/N61/E61/e62/e70 will ALL change that with FOTA (firmware over the air upgrade) features.

Remember SE has had a LONG history of making convergence devices ... slightly longer than Nokia had with the 9100 series devices (even before Symbian/Epoc based core devices); Ericsson with the R360 was the very first smatphone of is kind, ever bar none. it had 3 generations the third being based on Epoc which evolved to Symbian when Psion sold its wares to an open group that it is today.

N80 I'm still reluctant to buy although I love its design & features .... no dedicated volume keys is a pain for my needs ... so the SE P990i with 802.11g will suffice as my K750i upgrade (I just got the phone 3 weeks ago & you can tell I'm a phone whore; the 6620 served its purpose and was fun but GPRS/EDGE data centric apps that made it productive was costly; without unlimited internet.

Those that want the N80 purchase it even without iTunes.

 

[Xeem]

Those that want the N80 purchase it even without iTunes.

I want the N80, but I almost certainly won't buy one unless it has iTunes. If it comes with iTunes, I can ALMOST justify it, and I'll do my best to get one.

 

[Xeem]

Double post, sorry.

 

[FocusAndEarnIt]

Interesting. I'd buy it if it works for Verizon.