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I'm so surprised at how defensive iPhone users get when better spec phone comes out. Everything is useless until Apple adds it to the iPhone. You are really complaining about a sluggish OS considering it never came out yet? if it was perfect it would be out! the first iphone was announced 6 months before it came out and it will be the same thing with this phone. and another thing i have to say about a sluggish OS is 2.0, im sure that was a great iphone experience.

Don't get me wrong i love the iPhone it is an AMAZING device but its not perfect and its not for everyone that is why there will NEVER be a best phone period. Just the best for you. and there will NEVER be an iphone killer the os is light years ahead of everyone and its arguably the best (i think it is) full touch screen phone out.
 
I still use my 6110 Navigator together with my iPhone. The GPS is great and sms loads instantly. On my iPhone they can take up to 10 sec to load.
I was hoping to be able have everything I need in one phone, but the N97 won´t be it.
Maybe one day the iPhone will be that phone?
 
I used to be a huge Nokia fan. All my phones except one had been Nokias. My last Nokia phone was probably the nicest phone I ever owned: a Nokia 8801. It was sleek, had a great weight to it, the stainless steel body was virtually unscratchable, and like all Nokias it has a superb glass screen. It wasn't a touchscreen or a smartphone and it had smaller buttons which I didn't mind because I have long thin fingers. It was $800 plus with a slider mechanism that used ball bearings made by a german company that supplies bearings for Porsche. It was a great phone that I intended to have for quite a while. A year and a half after getting it the iPhone was released. I had no intention of getting it, had no desire for a smartphone, thought at best I would get another year out of my Nokia and then get an iPhone. Then I demoed the iPhone about 2 weeks after release and bought one, paying my termination fee to my cell provider and putting my beloved Nokia in a drawer. Haven't looked back.
 
nice specs but it looks like nokia are too scared(or don't have the resources) to implement a touch screen keyboard as opposed to a slidey out one
 
nice specs but it looks like nokia are too scared(or don't have the resources) to implement a touch screen keyboard as opposed to a slidey out one

Why don't you open your eyes and look at the video, the one that shows the touch screen keyboard
 
So you're slagging them off for giving a better spec than you could ever need?

Don't get me wrong, I'm no Nokia fan, I haven't owned one or wanted one for years, I just don't see why you'd have a dig over things that are better than Apple provide.
Good question. Besides, the more phones blow the iPhone out of the water in terms of specs, the sooner we're going to see hardware upgrades on the iPhone.

I wonder if they managed to implement a copy/paste system on that thing?
 
I'm so surprised at how defensive iPhone users get when better spec phone comes out. Everything is useless until Apple adds it to the iPhone. You are really complaining about a sluggish OS considering it never came out yet? if it was perfect it would be out! the first iphone was announced 6 months before it came out and it will be the same thing with this phone. and another thing i have to say about a sluggish OS is 2.0, im sure that was a great iphone experience.

I know the tech in iPhone might not be as high tech as N97 (2.0MP vs 5MP camera, or more memory), but the software of Apple's is the best ever.
I've use to own a few nokia phones, and I hated the Symbian OS...it's terribily slow. (Especially the N series)
Software wise, iPhone cannot be beaten.

Quite frankly, I think the software is more important than the hardware. If the software fails, then the hardware is useless.
 
Eventually, it will need to be iPhone compatible. As more and more apps are purchased, people will want to be able to run those apps on their phone. It will be like the IBM compatible phrase of the 80's.

Palm sure blew it. Once upon a time, Palm had over 70% of the market, thousands of developers, thousands of new apps, a big popular app store (PalmGear), and the same well-regarded SDK that most Mac developers used (Metrowerks). They were the IBM compatible of handheld devices of the late 90's. No longer.

Apple has patents on their UI technology, will strongly protect it, control it, and keep enhancing it so that it does not become stale.


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Apple makes:

Computers
iPods
iPhone
Software
OS

Nokia makes:

Phones (and tons of models)

only recently acquired the OS that runs on some of them.

Apple makes one phone product and Nokia tons of phones and have been for years. Of course on a lineup basis they can put out products that best Apple's iPhone in terms of specs. Partly because that is their only industry. Partly because Apple has chosen to make one model essentially to try and bring as much together as possible, cater to a wide audience, but at the same time has to make decisions on what to do and what not to.

The comparison isn't really there. And yet the iPhone OS will kill the Nokia OS every time.
 
Seriously, wth?

It's just a smartphone. It's not a computer. It's not even an iPhone.

I didn't see anything fun about it. It looks like Vista to me. Big numbers with lots of flash and fuzz but nothing actually worth upgrading for.
 
hmmmmm impressive
but iphone wins

first off their browser does not look better than iphone.
and it's a bit thick
 
Bias

There are lots of bias comments here...:rolleyes:

So typical when competitors released new products that *Could* have a potential to beat Apple's own offerings....
 
Slideout keyboard? Good God that looks fugly. I'll take the iPhone still please.

Great that we finally moved out of the "iPod killer" series of MP3 players only to land right in the "iPhone killer". I doubt any of these machines are going to impact the iPhone.
 
Nice specs, but it looks a bit too thick for my pockets...

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And it's interesting that they completely pulled out of Japan just before they announced it.

I think it is pretty thin considering that it has the slide out keyboard.
But that doesn't make me like it...
 
IMHO, this is first real threat to iPhone. Spec wise it butchers the iPhone (honestly, there is no point denying it). However the GUI isn't as smooth as iPhone GUI (however, it is said its only a prototype). Fact remains its thicker but then again it has real keyboard... On N97 you get real maps with real voice guided (car) navigation and it even has compass so it knows which direction you are facing (extremely handy when you are walking to your destination). It has 32GB (internal) + 32GB (SD slot) of memory (drool) and I'll bet it has copy & paste...

I hope Apple really pays attentions and releases an iPhone with similar feature sets and specs. However, what will it mean to rest of Apple development? (aka I want my Snow Leopard) Anyway, this is definitely interesting phone and it will probably be extremely popular. If Apple doesn't deliver I know where I'm heading.
 
Apple makes:
The comparison isn't really there. And yet the iPhone OS will kill the Nokia OS every time.

How so? IphoneOS doesn't even have copy/paste, can't even display "flash" content!! Oh but its pretty, right?
Yea..thats what Iphone is all about "pretty, shiny toy" Too bad it took me 2 iphones and an Ipod touch to realize that.

Been there, seen it. Now I need efficiency, something actually works.
-No more finding a pen and paper to write down things because of stupid copy and paste
-No more "Oh, I need to find a computer to display that website" because of flash content!
-No more "Oh, I need to carry my portable GPS and its accessories with me"
-No more " PLEASE ! Don't send mms to me...it's too much trouble" warnings!

but hey...I can play ocarina on my iphone....lmao!
It's a toy nothing more!
 
It's funny and somewhat sad how some people are actually trying to have serious conversation about a non-Apple product on an Apple fan forum.

Recipe for disaster.
 
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