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Nokia's New.... iPhone?

Stella said:
In Q2 2007 ... Nokia sold 34 MILLION Symbian based phones.. thats not including any other Nokia phones, i.e., 'basic' Series40 phones ( that have more functionality than iPhone, and cheaper ).

And your saying Nokia are runinng scared.
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Right. Nokia couldn't care less about the iPhone. They just thought they'd float a clone because they expected it to tank. All that business sense that made them leaders in the market all led them to waste their time and energy duplicating something they couldn't care less about.

Man, I swore I wouldn't take the bait...

Anyway, yes, there's a market for this. It's a concession that Apple's on to something, but they'll make their money underselling Apple through providers the iPhone won't support. It's easy to swallow your pride if it means burping up money...
 
Stella said:
I see the Apple fan bois and apologists are out in force.

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Unbelievably:
you pay FULL PRICE for your iPhone and Apple STILL dictates what cell network you USE!!!!

How Retarded is that?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Let me guess, you don't like how much people enjoy their iPhones, and it STILL makes you upset as the weeks go by :p

The revelance of you bringing up ringtones and exlusive contracts to this article escapes me, but your name-calling is both logical and persuasive ;)

As you PRETEND not to know:

* AT&T, not Apple, wanted the exclusive deal.

* Plenty of phones have been offered as exclusives.

* With the iPhone's low monthly rates, it's CHEAPER than it's competitors, within 2 years:
http://roughlydrafted.com/RD/RDM.Tech.Q3.07/28CE05EF-2E0F-4912-A62A-CBAB41E0D305.html

You could be posting what anyone here would say: the iPhone--like other phones--has flaws and strengths. But instead you abandon logic and repeatedly draw from these non-arguments, almost to the letter: http://homepage.mac.com/bhoglund/forumFudsters.html

Your regular pattern of non-sequitur anti-iPhone/anti-Apple posts seems to be very driven by emotion, not logic. Others criticize Apple with logic rather than lashing out with such anger/fear/whatever. Take a page from their book and you'll find a lot more people are suddenly agreeing with your anti-Apple points!

And being such a powerful Nokia apologist leaves you little room to criticize. But remember: nobody here criticizes you for liking your Nokia. It's fine to use whatever phone you prefer, and not be hurt by others who (by some insanity) actually like their iPhones.
 
Fake...

I've just had another look at the video... does anyone else think it's fake? The screen isn't totally in sync with the phone shown.
 
Just seeing that makes me want to undo ever owing a Nokia phone in the past. That pissed me off watching that because it's a blatant ripoff.
 
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MEANWHILE:

IPHONE USER takes his iPhone out of pocket, taps YouTube, navigates to Most Popular and sees the Nokia iPhone video. IPHONE USER puts his iPhone back into his pocket.

IPHONE USER (chuckling to himself)
At least my phone is real.​

FADE TO BLACK
 
donlphi said:
Has nothing to do with taking over. It's about originality. You Nokia Fan Boi's keep saying "NOKIA HAS BEEN MAKING PHONES FOR YEARS" but the I can't stop thinking, "Why didn't they come out with something better than the iPhone first?"
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Why would they? Nokia's phones have been selling great and Nokia's market share has constantly increased. You don't go messing around with a working system. Now that the iPhone is starting to somewhat be a success it may be time to bring out similar devices. But don't be fooled - you don't design a device like this in six months. I have a feeling the GUI was "inspired" by HaptiTouch technology and the design by Apple.

Again - why go messing around with something that another company has already tested in the market? Same thing was with the Razr design and other clam shell phones.

Apple still is a very small player in the cell phone industry so Nokia, LG and others are keeping their eyes on it but far from scared.
 
I laughed out lout initially, but at the end of the day the manufacturers always produce clones of each others handsets. Usually Nokia is quite late to the party on this, but I'm glad they realise the importance of the iPhone and have reacted relatively quickly, yet not so quick (LG, cough) that it's obviously a half-arsed effort.

Nokia have recently released Sync software for the Mac, allowing, amongst other things, for Nokia mobile phones to be seen by iPhoto as a camera. If Nokia continues to pay attention to Mac users in the future then I have no problem with them producing Apple-product clones. Apple may have a problem with it, though :p
 
raggedjimmi said:
That is poor.

'What Nokia always has and always delivers' or something. What? They've always copied Apple?
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Whatever.

I actually really like the look of this phone. Hopefully, 3G and a better camera? Stuff the iPhone - it doesn't even use iSync... ??? :confused:
 
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I would take the phone part from Nokia, the OS, iTunes-powered iPod function and industrial design from Apple and the camera from canon since the elph is the best mini cam.

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your even if it has multi- touch like functions, it won't have mac os or iPod iTunes foe music. It will have boring menu and back-like functions. On the nokia site for the n95 of even says how some carriers will reduce its fuctionality. Apple has complete reign over its partners (when locked).

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sorry wrote this on an iPhone and the above had typos... Reply to yoyo
 
apple patents

I would have thought that apple would have a patent along the lines of "accelerometer in a mobile communications device". Can Nokia actually get away with bringing this product to market?

Remember Jobs' keynote back in January? "We filed for over 200 patents for all the inventions in iPhone and we intend to protect them."
 
PrettyUgly said:
I would have thought that apple would have a patent along the lines of "accelerometer in a mobile communications device". Can Nokia actually get away with bringing this product to market?

Remember Jobs' keynote back in January? "We filed for over 200 patents for all the inventions in iPhone and we intend to protect them."
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especially when Nokia admit they have copied Apple's iPhone!!
 
PrettyUgly said:
I would have thought that apple would have a patent along the lines of "accelerometer in a mobile communications device". Can Nokia actually get away with bringing this product to market?
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Considering that Nokia had accelerometers in their phones about four years ago (and currently in N95 and 5500 Sport) I think they can "get away with it".

Other phones had it even sooner so it's not Apples invention.
 
Apple should get rid of the home button

The only good thing about the "Nokia design" is that they have no button. That should be the same for the iPhone, NO button at all, just one clean surface.

Here in Europe I did not have the opportunity to see an iPhone so-far, but it seems to me, that the UI is a little bit crowded with all the icons. According to the demo, it is cleaner for the Nokia. I would prefer Apple would adopt a menu like for front row, with a little bit of eye-candy.
 
rolandf said:
The only good thing about the "Nokia design" is that they have no button. That should be the same for the iPhone, NO button at all, just one clean surface.

Here in Europe I did not have the opportunity to see an iPhone so-far, but it seems to me, that the UI is a little bit crowded with all the icons. According to the demo, it is cleaner for the Nokia. I would prefer Apple would adopt a menu like for front row, with a little bit of eye-candy.
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Personally I find the current front row a bit annoying to navigate around - if music is selected but i want dvd i have to spend a little bit of time navigating around the spiral.

As for the button I think its an amazing idea - It's brave to have it after praising multi-touch so much, and seems so obvious that you'll quickly want to go back home.
 
I would rather have LG's copy, but then again, neither have multitouch or safari so no thanks. :)

They may make copies, but none will be able to offer what the iPhone offers. I'll stick to the original when it comes to Europe. ;)
 
Wow! Amazing how Apple fan boys can totally ignore the fact that the iPhone is total rip-off from MyOrigo.

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=1&Id=547

Oh, let me guess... all internet pages featuring MyOrigo gets now DDOS attacked?

This old phone had UI designed to be controlled just with fingers and accelerometer (or tilt sensor or whatever it's called). It also featured browsing through pages/pics by flicking you finger across the screen. So who copied who?!? I don't even like Nokia, but this is ridiculous.

Pretty much every feature in iPhone has been done before. My PDA has Picsel Browser from 2006 and it does same kind of smooth panning and zooming as Safari. Since the day one of touchscreen phones there has been finger controlled applications IF the app was simple enough to allow it. So Apples only innovation is dumbing down every feature in the phone. It just doesn't work for me.

Even my P800 back in 2002 could do all the things that iPhone users are excited about and back then i modded the interface for finger use. I don't remember seeing multitouch in a phone before, but I wouldn't change ability to use stylus AND finger to multitouch. It rules out everything that needs mouse like precision. Try painting these with your finger. http://www.conduits.com/products/artist/gallery.asp
I'm also playing lots of games with my PDA that absolutely need the stylus. Like Age of Empires, UFO - Enemy Unknown, Heroes of Might & Magic, Sim City 2000, Lucas Arts adventure games, etc...
 
Wow its an iPhone, running symbian, with a Nokia logo on it. Talk about innovation!!!!

The new N81 and N95 have, wait for it, 8GB memory!!!!

Is it just me or have I seen that in a phone somewhere else, maybe I was dreaming or maybe aww yea its the iPhone, coincidence I think not.
 
-Trinity- said:
Wow! Amazing how Apple fan boys can totally ignore the fact that the iPhone is total rip-off from MyOrigo.

http://www.mobileburn.com/review.jsp?Page=1&Id=547

Oh, let me guess... all internet pages featuring MyOrigo gets now DDOS attacked?

This old phone had UI designed to be controlled just with fingers and accelerometer (or tilt sensor or whatever it's called). It also featured browsing through pages/pics by flicking you finger across the screen. So who copied who?!? I don't even like Nokia, but this is ridiculous.

Pretty much every feature in iPhone has been done before. My PDA has Picsel Browser from 2006 and it does same kind of smooth panning and zooming as Safari. Since the day one of touchscreen phones there has been finger controlled applications IF the app was simple enough to allow it. So Apples only innovation is dumbing down every feature in the phone. It just doesn't work for me.

Even my P800 back in 2002 could do all the things that iPhone users are excited about and back then i modded the interface for finger use. I don't remember seeing multitouch in a phone before, but I wouldn't change ability to use stylus AND finger to multitouch. It rules out everything that needs mouse like precision. Try painting these with your finger. http://www.conduits.com/products/artist/gallery.asp
I'm also playing lots of games with my PDA that absolutely need the stylus. Like Age of Empires, UFO - Enemy Unknown, Heroes of Might & Magic, Sim City 2000, Lucas Arts adventure games, etc...
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a COMPLETE rip-off </sarcasm>... except for the fact that this MyOrigo phone is as ugly as sin...
 
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