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You're missing his point. This thing costs $100, that's the point he's getting across (which I agree with). If this thing were say $50 and didn't include the power brick, that wouldn't be as much of an issue.
I’m pretty sure the lack of a cable and charger isn’t being bemoaned here.

It’s the $100.

There’s nothing here to justify $100.

Qi2 ain’t all that.
That’s not what the comment said.

It specifically complained about the lack of bundled power brick, making an analogy about it and everything. It wasn’t just complaining about the price.

I agree it should be priced lower than the MagSafe equivalent.

But I disagree that it should come with a power brick, because it’s not only wasteful for the many who do not need them, it would inevitably increase the price even further.
 
I like that it only includes the thing I care about, without bundling extras that would increase the price.

Power bricks are readily available everywhere, there’s a very good chance people already have one (or more), and it makes international distribution much simpler & less wasteful.
I think the point is that adding a charger would not increase the price, because the price obviously isn't set based on cost. And similarly, simpler distribution is only a point for streamlined low-cost products. Simpler distribution in a boutique product just bolsters the margins and is not a selling point, quite the contrary, since the purchase becomes slightly less simple compared to an all-in-one package.

Either way, the point is probably moot: If you're willing to pay $100 for a stand, you probably don't really care about +/- $10 for the cost of a charger.

So I think both the complaint about a lack of charger for the price and the argument that the cost would increase if one was included are probably both made by people who aren't in the market for this kind of expensive product anyway.
 
I find this product disgusting and annoying. I’m sure some rich Emo Millennial Tech Influencer will pick one up, use it for a few days, complain about it then toss it in the bin. What a waste.
 
So Nomad creates an already overpriced charger, doesn't pay for the Apple certification/15w and now creates a "new" charger that supports the open Qi2 standard ha. Hopefully people see that Nomad is overpriced, too cheap to pay for certification, and now that they don't have to pay for certification they're still too cheap and don't give you a power supply.
 
Im confused here, its listed on the Nomad website as 'MagSafe Compatible' not actual 'MFi MagSafe'. The 'MagSafe Compatible' versions of their stands charge at 7.5W, where the 'MFi Magsafe' versions charge at the 15W that official MagSafe can handle. The specs from Nomad read:

• Magsafe Compatible wireless charger
• Up to 15W for Qi2 devices (including iPhone 15)
• Works with any Magsafe device

So what about my iPhone 12 Pro Max thats not Qi2? 7.5W?
Meaning, it's backwards compatible with all MagSafe iPhones, i.e. it will charge them, and magnetically. Unsure what speed it will charge them however. But expect 15W on most Qi2 compatible iPhones. Apple made a mistake in keeping the MagSafe marketing name around for iPhone going forward, as it will confuse the customer. They should have went all-in on Qi2 marketing brand to simplify things for the consumer going forward.
 
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I like that it only includes the thing I care about, without bundling extras that would increase the price.

Power bricks are readily available everywhere, there’s a very good chance people already have one (or more), and it makes international distribution much simpler & less wasteful.
I prefer not to receive a cord because my cord use case is different from others. Some may need a 3 foot cable, others may need a 10. If it came with a 6, some would have a bunch of extra cable while others would chuck it in the box of cords and have to buy a longer one any way.
 
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Meaning, it's backwards compatible with all MagSafe iPhones, i.e. it will charge them, and magnetically. Unsure what speed it will charge them however. But expect 15W on most Qi2 compatible iPhones. Apple made a mistake in keeping the MagSafe marketing name around for iPhone going forward, as it will confuse the customer. They should have went all-in on Qi2 marketing brand to simplify things for the consumer going forward.

As far as I have seen, no one has confirmed if the magnet layouts are the same, or if Qi2 only supports the circle and not the little line below it...
 
As far as I have seen, no one has confirmed if the magnet layouts are the same, or if Qi2 only supports the circle and not the little line below it...
Right, Magsafe would charge my iPhone 12 and also my AirPods 3. The MagSafe version of this stand for example would cling to AirPods 3 in its case and charge it, wondering if thats out the window for compatibility with whatever magnet array the AirPods 3 has.
 
As far as I have seen, no one has confirmed if the magnet layouts are the same, or if Qi2 only supports the circle and not the little line below it...
They are compatible with one another, so the magnet arrangement is likely standardised across both. I do know with Qi2 the magnetic strength is also standardised to get official certification.
 
They are compatible with one another, so the magnet arrangement is likely standardised across both. I do know with Qi2 the magnetic strength is also standardised to get official certification.
They're likely similar, but apparently Apple and the standards body are cagey about specifics. Currently you have register as a member and pay to even access them...

Minimum magnet strength has been stipulated, which apparently Apple, Samsung and others were keen on. I don't think standardised is the right word, because companies can opt to exceed the minimum.
 
They're likely similar, but apparently Apple and the standards body are cagey about specifics. Currently you have register as a member and pay to even access them...

Minimum magnet strength has been stipulated, which apparently Apple, Samsung and others were keen on. I don't think standardised is the right word, because companies can opt to exceed the minimum.
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