Not going to upgrade

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I'm happily running El Capitan on my 2015 Macbook.

Only thing tempting me in Mojave is dark mode.

Did anyone upgrade on a 2015 Macbook? What's the speed like?
 
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I'm happily running El Capitan on my 2015 Macbook.

Only thing tempting me in Mojave is dark mode.

Did anyone upgrade on a 2015 Macbook? What's the speed like?
It's good to try something new and Dark Mode sounded interesting prior to the release of Mojave. I can see that some users may derive benefit from focusing on the key working areas of an app, but for me it doesn't "float my boat" so I too have reverted to normal Light Mode. In my opinion, Dark Mode in itself is a not a reason to upgrade to Mojave.
 

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My MBP is running well enough on HS, I see no benefit for upgrading at this point. I'm sure the time will come to do so, but so far I'm content with HS
Same here. I made a decision a few years ago to run only the latest version once it has reached its final point release, so next September for Mojave for me. I do have an external SSD with Mojave installed and I am building it up and configuring to my usual likings. I will keep that updated and boot it occasionally to see how the new OS is coming along.
 

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Thanks for all the replies so far. This is useful.

What about performance though? I feel El Cap is just running snappily enough on this machine. Could I expect any improvement with Mojave?
 

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Thanks for all the replies so far. This is useful.

What about performance though? I feel El Cap is just running snappily enough on this machine. Could I expect any improvement with Mojave?
because of the differences in our hardware, the apps we run, how we use our macs... there's no one answer for everyone. so honestly, you won't know until you get there.

you could get something like carbon copy cloner, clone your mac to an external drive, THEN update the OS. then, if you don't like it, you can restore your mac from that clone.
 
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OP:

I, too, still use El Cap on my own 2015 MBP, and I, too, have no intention of "upgrading".

It runs fine as it is, so it may "stay as it is", probably for the life of the MBP.
(I -might- consider moving it to Low Sierra someday, but "not yet")

I still keep my prior 2010 MBP on Snow Leopard, and it also runs fine that way.

There's no compelling reason to "jump onto the upgrade merry-go-round" if you don't wish to.

I -WOULD NOT- try an upgrade to Mojave for "dark mode" (alone). It may prove to be far more troublesome than it was worth...
 
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OP:

I, too, still use El Cap on my own 2015 MBP, and I, too, have no intention of "upgrading".

It runs fine as it is, so it may "stay as it is", probably for the life of the MBP.
(I -might- consider moving it to Low Sierra someday, but "not yet")

I still keep my prior 2010 MBP on Snow Leopard, and it also runs fine that way.

There's no compelling reason to "jump onto the upgrade merry-go-round" if you don't wish to.

I -WOULD NOT- try an upgrade to Mojave for "dark mode" (alone). It may prove to be far more troublesome than it was worth...
and, conversely, no need to fear change; mojave is, (in my opinion), the best apple OS in some time.
 

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and, conversely, no need to fear change; mojave is, (in my opinion), the best apple OS in some time.
Best Apple OS since Snow Leopard, in my opinion!

I also have a 2015 MacBook Pro, and it is blazing fast on Mojave. Program performance is amazing, and some of the smaller features are very nice. I would highly recommend upgrading, but doing a "clean install," especially if you are coming from macOS Sierra or before (for the reasons listed below) and because I always "clean install" Apples new OS's every year because I feel as if I get better performance AND I do not carry over any bugs from the previous version(s) of macOS.

Those of you with an SSD on macOS Sierra and before, are missing out on APFS, which provides extra performance on SSD's.

:apple:
 

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I've been testing Mojave on a spare drive with a 2014 Mini.
Haven't yet found a compelling reason to update, and it breaks a few Apps I like.
Otherwise, there don't seem to be any new big problems.
Dark mode has all the thrill of a touch bar to me, but it might be nice to run Cat Piano on the Mac.
I'm holding off for now.
 

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I've been testing Mojave on a spare drive with a 2014 Mini.
Haven't yet found a compelling reason to update, and it breaks a few Apps I like.
Otherwise, there don't seem to be any new big problems.
Dark mode has all the thrill of a touch bar to me, but it might be nice to run Cat Piano on the Mac.
I'm holding off for now.
what apps does it break? (just curious)...
 

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I have a late 2015 macbook pro as well. Skipped High Sierra. Upgraded to Mojave, and I am VERY pleased with the performance, features, dark mode, etc. Great upgrade in my opinion. Not a single issue...
 
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Thank you all. Inclined to let it be...

Also, I'm on a 2015 MacBook, not MBP, which is one of the reasons I have concerns about performance (or rather, snappiness).
 

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what apps does it break? (just curious)...
Omnigraffle crashes. Likely they'll update. I have MacDraft, which still works although 32 bit. It's usually better for design anyway.
Photoshop CS5 (I forget to do the 6 update) invariably crashes on exit. Works fine, but that crash is disturbing.
MoonMenu. So I like to keep track of the phase. Doubt I can find a replacement.
Dashboard widgets work again, if you set them up in Mission Control prefs.
Dark mode is a disaster for the stuff I use.

I keep getting repetitive and annoying cloud and facetime sign in alerts. I don't use either.
On the plus side, iTunes 10.4.11 still works, calibre, my Barometer reading script as well as most other Scripts. They're cracking down on scripts controlling Apps now, which seems to me was the original purpose of AppleScript, but those dialogs mostly show up only the first time you run a script.
Pages 2009 still seems to work, so those old docs are not lost. Need to convert to Libre Office one of these days.

Other than Photoshop, most of these troubles will likely go away in 6 to 8 months.
Photoshop replacement will be a bear. Bill Gates needs to endow the Gimp people with a $billion or two, so as to bring it up to snuff.
Still those cloud and facetime warnings are annoying.
I bought a computer, not a phone.
Maybe someone will find the formula to tone those things down.
 

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Omnigraffle crashes. Likely they'll update. I have MacDraft, which still works although 32 bit. It's usually better for design anyway.
Photoshop CS5 (I forget to do the 6 update) invariably crashes on exit. Works fine, but that crash is disturbing.
MoonMenu. So I like to keep track of the phase. Doubt I can find a replacement.
Dashboard widgets work again, if you set them up in Mission Control prefs.
Dark mode is a disaster for the stuff I use.

I keep getting repetitive and annoying cloud and facetime sign in alerts. I don't use either.
On the plus side, iTunes 10.4.11 still works, calibre, my Barometer reading script as well as most other Scripts. They're cracking down on scripts controlling Apps now, which seems to me was the original purpose of AppleScript, but those dialogs mostly show up only the first time you run a script.
Pages 2009 still seems to work, so those old docs are not lost. Need to convert to Libre Office one of these days.

Other than Photoshop, most of these troubles will likely go away in 6 to 8 months.
Photoshop replacement will be a bear. Bill Gates needs to endow the Gimp people with a $billion or two, so as to bring it up to snuff.
Still those cloud and facetime warnings are annoying.
I bought a computer, not a phone.
Maybe someone will find the formula to tone those things down.
all 32bit apps are dead... next year. so it goes.

try reinstalling omnigiraffe? the current version is reported as working here on this forum. PS CS6 works, def worth updating that. and check in system preferences>icloud; make sure you're signed out; you shouldn't be getting those alerts. itunes is at 12.9; why are you running 10.4.11? (just wondering).
 

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why are you running 10.4.11? (just wondering).
Last version that runs on all my Minis. I have a 2005 still chugging away in basement.
The version includes multiple windows, and none of that annoying "up next" queue.
It's also the last version that doesn't pester me about not being connected to the internet.
10.4-10.7 was peak iTunes as far as I'm concerned. 64 bit, so it'll probably work next year too.
11 and up got more and more into picking music for you, trying to sell you stuff, storing things insecurely in the cloud and changing your album art, and sometimes music, on you.
I keep 12.9 around too, so I can still use store as needed.

MacDraft is 32 bit, maybe the update I haven't gotten round to is 64.
I'll have to wrestle with Omnigraffle (64 bit). There's something funny going on. A reinstall may fix it.
 

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Last version that runs on all my Minis. I have a 2005 still chugging away in basement.
The version includes multiple windows, and none of that annoying "up next" queue.
It's also the last version that doesn't pester me about not being connected to the internet.
10.4-10.7 was peak iTunes as far as I'm concerned. 64 bit, so it'll probably work next year too.
11 and up got more and more into picking music for you, trying to sell you stuff, storing things insecurely in the cloud and changing your album art, and sometimes music, on you.
I keep 12.9 around too, so I can still use store as needed.

MacDraft is 32 bit, maybe the update I haven't gotten round to is 64.
I'll have to wrestle with Omnigraffle (64 bit). There's something funny going on. A reinstall may fix it.
i have none of those issues with itunes... but i do have the itunes store disabled in 'restrictions'; that should fix it for u.
 
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