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If you have a bunch of tabs open in chrome, you are probably lucky to get 5 hours (I didn't time).

I'd say avoid using Chrome — its known to be a battery killer.
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How much of a difference is there between the new 2017 MBP and a 2007 MBP ?

Well, let me put it like this: the GPU is over 20 times faster and the storage about 50 times faster. Hope that puts things in perspective.
 
I had the option to purchase a new Kaby Lake 15" Pro and instead purchased a October 2016 model for $200 off. I felt like the upgrades the newer laptops have wasn't worth the extra money.
 
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$200 off sounds great, when you're buying something thats like $800. When spending nearly $3,000 on a machine, $200 savings seems like a small compensation relative to what you lose out on: better battery life (thanks to Kaby Lake efficiencies), better graphics (you get a higher tier chip now in each model), 4K HEVC encoding built-in, and higher clock speeds. I believe also faster SSD.

You can ask a friend with a college ID to get you the student discount and you'd pretty much be paying the same anyway, which makes the new machines a total no brainer.
 
$200 off sounds great, when you're buying something thats like $800. When spending nearly $3,000 on a machine, $200 savings seems like a small compensation relative to what you lose out on: better battery life (thanks to Kaby Lake efficiencies), better graphics (you get a higher tier chip now in each model), 4K HEVC encoding built-in, and higher clock speeds. I believe also faster SSD.

You can ask a friend with a college ID to get you the student discount and you'd pretty much be paying the same anyway, which makes the new machines a total no brainer.

Thing is, all of those things only add up to a roughly 7% increase in performance. Though coincidentally $200 is also roughly 7% of the purchase price depending on the specs, so it would've been roughly the same value either way. Btw, the SSD speed increase was only for the regular MacBook.
 
I think you're also missing the fact that most people are only just starting to receive their machines. So most "user" videos are still to come. But as others have said this is just a spec bump, so hardly warrants any real coverage.
 
I'll get excited if they release either

1. $1,999 base rMBP 15" (sans TB & dGPU)
2. Portability-first 15", be it MBP or MB (à la LG Gram)

Their 15" lineup really needs more variation than being only rMBP+TB+dGPU starting at $2,399...
Unless you're masochistic and willing to spit ~2k on a 4-year old components laptop.
 
I'll get excited if they release either

1. $1,999 base rMBP 15" (sans TB & dGPU)
2. Portability-first 15", be it MBP or MB (à la LG Gram)

Their 15" lineup really needs more variation than being only rMBP+TB+dGPU starting at $2,399...
Unless you're masochistic and willing to spit ~2k on a 4-year old components laptop.

Aside from the RAM, which of its components are 4 years old?
 
Aside from the RAM, which of its components are 4 years old?

That Haswell Iris Pro CPU was released on the Mid-2014 rMBP, which itself was only a minor spec bump over my late 2013. So the CPU is a 10% faster clocked Haswell Late 2013, and the same Iris Pro GPU which is so out of date by now that even the GPU in the 2016/2017 13" TB MBP may even be faster. $1999 for it is a stretch, even for Apple. But they want to keep the cost of entry high for the 15" so they can charge $1799 for the 13" Touch Bar. The whole pricing scheme ludicrous, really.
 
That Haswell Iris Pro CPU was released on the Mid-2014 rMBP, which itself was only a minor spec bump over my late 2013. So the CPU is a 10% faster clocked Haswell Late 2013, and the same Iris Pro GPU which is so out of date by now that even the GPU in the 2016/2017 13" TB MBP may even be faster. $1999 for it is a stretch, even for Apple. But they want to keep the cost of entry high for the 15" so they can charge $1799 for the 13" Touch Bar. The whole pricing scheme ludicrous, really.

I didn't realise he was talking about the entry level 15'' model with the old design. Thought it was aimed at the Touch Bar. In which case I 100% agree.
 
$200 off sounds great, when you're buying something thats like $800. When spending nearly $3,000 on a machine, $200 savings seems like a small compensation relative to what you lose out on: better battery life (thanks to Kaby Lake efficiencies), better graphics (you get a higher tier chip now in each model), 4K HEVC encoding built-in, and higher clock speeds. I believe also faster SSD.

You can ask a friend with a college ID to get you the student discount and you'd pretty much be paying the same anyway, which makes the new machines a total no brainer.

Most importantly Apple will likely have made multiple "under the hood" refinements fpr the 2nd Gen, that will never be publicly announced. Personally 2017 as the saving is irrelevant give the overall cost.

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If people brought a 2016 Mbp of course they aren't going to be interested. Thankfully I was still in the return period window prior to 2017 mbp being released so I returned and now have a 2017 mbp.

But honestly, if I was outside of that return window, I wouldn't haven't bothered with the 2017 version either.

Its a very small update.
 

I don't really understand why this "reviewer" even bothers with these troll-reviews


Omg, that guy is simply the worst. When he has to state something where the MBP is better, he adds something like "but no one really cares about that", but everything he thinks is better on Dell XPS is the most important thing ever. Also, half the things he says are simply not true. He's either a troll or working for Dell.
 
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