Not really impressed...

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by gixxerredliner, Jan 23, 2009.

  1. gixxerredliner macrumors regular


    Dec 8, 2008
    So ive been thinking about getting a macbook for some time now. But recently after actually borrowing my friends for a week im not impressed. Now i know alot of ppl will probaly flame me before actually understanding what I am getting at so let me explain. This could be user error meaning i dont know how to use a mac but why doesnt the internet open to the entire screen? it opens with the apps at the bottom and doesnt fully fill the entire screen.

    Ive been trying for hours to find the section that allows me to see what the macbook is putting out while watching youtube videos, I remember someone on this site once showed a section where you can see how much of the cpu your laptop was using watching youtube vids. And thats pretty much it, thanks for any advise on how to use a mac and where to find those areas.
  2. mikew228 macrumors newbie

    Jan 22, 2009
    just hide the dock, and maximize the screen simple as that.
  3. Sun Baked macrumors G5

    Sun Baked

    May 19, 2002
  4. yousoldtheworld macrumors member


    Jan 6, 2009
    nowhere, Indiana
    Hiding the dock is easy, and just drag the bottom right corner of the screen to where you want it.
  5. bozz2006 macrumors 68030


    Aug 24, 2007
    i'm with you. the dock on bottom bugs me too. that's why i keep it on the right.
  6. Eric5h5 macrumors 68020

    Dec 9, 2004
    Because that's lame; filling the entire screen just for a web browser doesn't make sense. But yeah, that's user can make the dock auto-hide if you want, and you can make the browser window fill the entire screen if you insisted, but that's not a very good use of screen space. The main thing is not to go in expecting OS X to behave like Windows, because it doesn't. If you keep an open mind about the differences and have the understanding that they're done that way for a good reason (usually), then I think you'll have a better time.

  7. gixxerredliner thread starter macrumors regular


    Dec 8, 2008
    Thanks for all the positive replys

    I guess because ive only used windows this is such a challenge trying to use a totally different system. I guess Its going to take some more time to see the "MAGIC" that ppl speak about when using this operating system. I guess im just trying to find all the gems within this OS that make it better than Windows and the future Windows 7.
  8. Smacky macrumors 6502

    Jul 23, 2008
    How can you say it doesnt make sense? Maybe I want to see the whole pic/webpage on a screen rather than having to scroll
  9. likemyorbs macrumors 68000


    Jul 20, 2008
    what a lame thing to say, most mac users i know do everything full screen and use auto-hide. especially when youre on a 13 inch screen.
  10. liquidtrend macrumors 6502


    Jul 26, 2008
    you cant see the "magic" until you own one. borrowing your friends isnt quite the experience most people need.

    i dont claim for mac osx to be better than windows, nor do i claim for it to be better than what future OS exist in a potential market.

    what i can claim is that mac osx is a very different experience.
    now the different can either make you happy, or upset. for something as "full window mode" not being as fulfilling as a windows system, you might be looking at some unimpressed wizardry.
  11. paolo- macrumors 6502a

    Aug 24, 2008
    I don't know if it will be your case. But, if you'll be using your mac with an external display, that's where the UI really shines, in my opinion. Mac osx is based on unix (wiki it, if you don't know what it is) so quite oftenly, windows are small and minimalist (the taskbar at the top and the little rectangle at the opposite side of the 3 circles in the header of the window that closes a functionality pane). But, you can see all of them at a glance, no need to alt-tab through all your windows just to read something on another window. It can be disturbing at first as your windows just pile up and you don't quite understand how to get things organized.

    You'll also notice that os x thinks in terms of apps, not in terms of windows (for example alt+tab shows you the apps running, not the different windows). But very quickly, you'll find a way that you're comfortable with it all and, in conjuction with exposé, the dock and spaces, you can really do a nice job in handling your windows. You'll also notice how much white space you were wasting on your screen in windows. For example, most web pages are something like 800 pixels wide, there's no need to let that take up all of your screen (even more if it's 1600 pixels wide).

    Mind you, I don't know how osx remembers what settings to use for the window sizes at the start of the app but after a while, they start up in the way you usually do it. So you're probably using you're friend's standard.

    You have probably also found out that you can have an app that's running but the apps having no windows open. Open safari or firefox then right click on the icon in the dock and do hide (or command+h), you just did the equivalent of minimizing all of the windows for that app but you don't see them anywhere : click on the dock icon of safari or firefox, and pop it or they come back up. Similar thing with the red or X button, you close only that window, not the app.
  12. fleshman03 macrumors 68000


    May 27, 2008
    Sioux City, IA

    Think of the dock like the taskbar in Windows. It's there to help you and tell you what you have open.

    If you want to hide it, press command-d. To bring it back up, all you need to do is move the mouse to the bottom of the screen.

    Also - with a 13" screen I feel your pain with the web browers. FireFox will automatically make it full screen if you press the green button. I did think it was dumb at first, but then I got used to it and wouldn't go back. You will too if you take the time.
  13. therealdt macrumors regular

    Oct 4, 2008
    northeast region
    it's no magic, either you like Macs or don't. i used windows my whole life, i had access to a Macbook for about 3 weeks and I was hooked. No magic, just me liking Macs better.
  14. Tomorrow macrumors 604


    Mar 2, 2008
    Always a day away
    I'm using a 13" screen right now and although my browser does fill the screen from top to bottom (it's only 800 px after all), I don't fill the screen left-to-right (I use Firefox at 960 pixels). I agree with the previous post - in almost every circumstance it's pointless to me to make a browser window take up my entire screen, when most well-designed sites will easily fit into a window 1024 px wide or even smaller.

    As for maximizing a browser window, that's not a Windows thing at all; that's just a particular user's way of using a browser. There are very, very few applications I use at full-screen (Photoshop Elements comes to mind, but then you don't have the option to change it), simply because I don't think it's an effective use of my screen real estate. Yes, even on my 13" MB.

    EDIT: FWIW, the reason I started using smaller windows is because it makes text easier to read. Think about a newspaper - the columns are fairly narrow, making it easier to follow from line to line (and easier to skim). It's the same thing with a web browser - I'd rather read several lines of text about 600 pixels wide than a few lines 1200 pixels wide.
  15. VSMacOne macrumors 601


    Oct 18, 2008
    I also came from a Windows world after over 10 years.
    This is one thing I LOVED about OS X: that Safari just adapts the web pages to the size of the window, and I could have smaller windows and still see the whole width of the page. This is what my screen usually looks like, because I like to have other things running on the side (Like my Adium list and Bowtie).
    So this is definitely a USER preference, as for me it's one of the MANY pluses that Mac OS X has over Windows (from my personal experience).

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  16. doobi18 macrumors 6502

    Dec 31, 2006
    Sydney, Australia
    Check this out:

    You can make the window ANY SIZE YOU WANT!

    The dock at the bottom uses up about the same real estate as your Start Bar.


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  17. applephysci macrumors regular

    Aug 22, 2008
    Nice screenshot.
    How'd you get the date in the menubar?
  18. VPrime macrumors 68000


    Dec 19, 2008
    London Ontario
    The purpose of the "maximize" in OS X is to make the screen as big as possible.. but still give you room for other windows. It is designed with the idea of multitasking.

    Windows, the maximize just takes up your whole screen. Some times this is nice, but usually wastes screen space.

    I do wish there was an extra button in OSX for a full screen maximize though.. It would help in some situations.
  19. doug in albq Suspended

    doug in albq

    Oct 12, 2007
    Google "istat menus"
  20. VSMacOne macrumors 601


    Oct 18, 2008
    It's a little app called iStat Menus (it can do a bunch of other things but I only use it for the time and calendar).. LOVE it! :cool:

    EDIT: posted right with doug above
  21. gixxerredliner thread starter macrumors regular


    Dec 8, 2008
    Ok you guys are going to kill me lol

    ok so ive been playing with the mac and hmmmm how the heck do you copy and paste something? Like using windows i left click with my pad/mouse cover what i want copied than right click copy it and than right click to paste it. But how do you do this with a macbook?
  22. aawil macrumors 6502a


    May 18, 2008
    If you all want to do is watch you tube videos, you just might not find the magic you seek. It's just a computer. The gems must come from you. Good luck.


    I have istat menus and didn't notice this option. Always nice to learn something new and useful. :)
  23. H$R macrumors 6502


    Apr 1, 2008
    Take your file/folder and drag&drop it to your new location. But before you drop it, press the "alt" button and then release the mouse button.

    This will copy and paste your file. (you should see a green plus next to the file the moment you press "alt")

    And don't try to find "cut and paste" it doesn't exist. There's no command to cut. Instead you have to move the file. You have to grab your file, move it to your new location and then drop it.

    Though you can cut and paste text in a text editor. Just no files/folders in the Finder.

    Same for me.

    And otherwise to the topic: I don't let my Dock auto-hide. I just make the windows as big as possible, but I want my Dock to stay there, so that I can switch between my apps down there. I know I could to that with alt-tabulator, but I never liked this. It really doesn't matter if I have an inch more or less screen on the bottom.
  24. CrzyCanuck72 macrumors 6502a

    Jun 10, 2003
    you left click with your pad/mouse cover what you want copied than right click copy it and than right click to paste it
  25. BoyBach macrumors 68040


    Feb 24, 2006

    command - x : cut
    command - c : copy
    command - v : paste

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