Not really thrilled with the New Macbook Pro

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by darkloki, Jan 2, 2017.

  1. darkloki, Jan 2, 2017
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    darkloki macrumors member

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    Now before anyone thinks that I'm just bashing the new 15" macbook Pro, please know that I've been a loyal 15" Macbook user ever since Intel came onboard with apple. I've owned a version of every iteration and the 15" retina is still my favorite Macbook. I got the new macbook Pro with a 2.7 GHz, 455 Radeon, 512gb SSD, and 16gb of ram for Christmas as a gift to add to the collection I suppose but it's currently sitting with other macbooks collecting dust as I write this from my beloved 2014 Macbook Pro Retina.

    After using it for a few days the only thing I actually like about the new macbook is the Screen. In time maybe I'll switch over but as it currently stands the 2014-2015 is still my Favorite Macbook as I'm currently typing on it and will probably use it for most of '17 at least until USB-C becomes a thing.

    I suppose there is a reason why I own Two 15" retina's because I truely love this iteration it's easily the best iteration currently* The battery life does feel like it's longer on my Retina version and the typing is considerably easier. I never really noticed or had a complaint about the SSD and can't tell the difference between the two. The overall experience has been better on this version. Maybe by mid '17 I'll slowly transition to the new one but I've gone 4 days now without touching my new one and haven't felt the pull yet...


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  2. Falcon80 macrumors 6502

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    Why not return the Macbook if you do not have any intention to use it for the next few month or even a year?
     
  3. darkloki thread starter macrumors member

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    Oh I got it as a gift and I'll probably use it eventually it's not really a big deal to me in terms of the monetary value.
     
  4. SoyCapitanSoyCapitan macrumors 68040

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    It doesn't help your case to say you got an expensive gift and you don't like it. It's supposed to be a Pro forum for people who invest money in their toolset she. It's super that you got a gift but try the other perspective and you'll see things differently.
     
  5. sidewinder macrumors 68020

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    What the.....?

    darkloki didn't say anything that deserved a comment like that. Pro forum? It's a forum for anyone that wants to come here and participate. That includes pros, enthusiasts, dabblers, moms, grand dads, etc.

    darkloki is giving his perspective on the new MacBook Pro. He doesn't need to see it from the other side as he is making no statement about any other perspectives.

    Give it a rest.
     
  6. darkloki thread starter macrumors member

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    I never get rid of any of my Macbooks or previous apple devices, so why would I start now? Why does money even matter here, when you use devices everyday it's not really a big deal. If you met a car collector would you say the same thing to them? I'm simply an enthusiast.
     
  7. Ries macrumors 68000

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    The only reason paying for it, would shift his opinion, would be to somehow justify wasting a big pile of money... Getting it for free, means there is no stake in liking it or not.
     
  8. darkloki thread starter macrumors member

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    Well even though I received the system as a Gift I still care for the system, I actually think that part of me is just waiting for a better case for the 16 to come out cause I find the system to be extremely delicate and I know the system is easily the most expensive yet. Overall the transition from the Macbook Retina to this new 2016 Model reminds me alot of the transition from the Iphone 4S to Iphone 5.

    When we went to the 5 we got a more vibrant screen and more dynamic colors, plus the 5 was very thin and sleek like this system. The 4 was still a very good phone and very beloved as well. Anyone whose used the iphones might be able to draw more parallels but the overall feeling for me has been very similar.

    When I play Hearthstone the colors are crazy different from one system to the other. I think once a soft shell is released for the 2016 model I'll utilize it more, reading the countless threads of people scratching this and that on these $2,000+ systems does not provoke any confidence and because my needs have not required me to transition over, I simply have not, yet.....
     
  9. RedOrchestra Suspended

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    This forum never fails to amaze with ... like this.
     
  10. maflynn Moderator

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    No it isn't. Its a forum for people to discuss the MBP regardless of how they buy or use them.
     
  11. seadragon, Jan 3, 2017
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    Wow... I could feel the wind from that spin job. Pro forum for investing in tools? Seriously? Many people don't use their laptops to make money.

    And, if anything, the fact that the OP didn't pay for the machine makes his/her opinion even more honest and unbiased.
     
  12. skids929 macrumors 6502a

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    I think there are two ways to look at the value of the opinion being given here. One is if you pay for something like this machine you tend to more careful and thoughtful about your decision and how it fits your needs, work or whatever you will do with it.

    The other is, if you get it as a gift you take what you get, with gratitude hopefully, and judge it based on what you know of the machine compared to others in it's class, and it's intrinsic value to you in much the same way as if you paid for it, but you're less biased toward how it will effect your finances.

    Personally the real value in this opinion is how many MBPs the poster has experience with. So the comparisons can be useful. Unfortunately, it's been stated time and again these forums that the 2016 MBPs are probably not a valuable upgrade to those coming from a more recent machine.

    If you want my opinion, I think it will be hard for you to properly acclimate to the 2016 with the old model sitting there all the time. Keyboard is a good example, if you didn't use the older one and stay with the new KB for a while you will likely adjust and never want to go back to the old machine. I know I hate typing on my old one now. But thats me. I adjusted and I am happy about it, my machine was much older though and this was a great upgrade because of it.

    The new model is undoubtedly better than your old one, so maybe consider officially retiring it while you get used to this new one, or selling one of your old ones, or gifting it to someone else.
     
  13. darkloki thread starter macrumors member

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    Yeah I agree with you Skids929, I think I'm more or less validating that the move from a 14-15 Macbook Pro Retina isn't as steep or necessary to the new '16 model. And in fact if people had paid that dollar amount they might be upset. However, the screen is really really nice.

    Again I want to iterate that this latest version because of it's price and it's design has me treating it delicately and waiting for a proper soft shell/case to come out. I might be typing on the new system completely wrong though. For some reason I find myself trying to type lightly and somewhat hovering my hands on the keyboard instead of having them rested.

    It could be a combination of being on the touchpad and with the key travel distance being so short I'm springy or poppy with my fingers when I type. (I type at around 120 WPM) I can type on the system fine, but it's just that the posture does not feel relaxed for me and I seem to be making more typos then with my other keyboard. The actual keyboard doesn't really bother me I think it's the posture/positioning of my hands that I haven't gotten adjusted to yet, resting your hands on the touchpad is a very unsettling feeling even if there are no issues with doing it... at least for me.,
     
  14. MrGuder macrumors 68020

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    Well you have to admit that this thread is a little outside the norm. I don't see very many posts on here saying I bought the MacBook Pro and spent close to 3 grand and I don't like it, probably won't use it collecting dust in the corner but I'm going to keep it. i would venture to say this kind of a post doesn't really help folks who are coming here to find why people don't like it. Most of the posts here are I bought it and not sure I like it should I return or I'm going to return cause I don't like it. There are a lot of rich people who can afford to buy it, keep it even though they won't use it and that is fine but I don't really need to know about that info on a forum and can't see how that helps others.
     
  15. darkloki, Jan 3, 2017
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    Well, it can help others that own the '14/'15 model knowing that the improvements do not seem significant enough in my opinion to warrant the additional cash you'd fork over. I believe this has been stated though by alot of people already actaully (At least so I've been told). And my perspective has been I'm loyal to the brand and to Apple, and have always been. When apple releases the next Macbook I'm probably going to end up getting it, but I don't know why money always comes into this.
     
  16. jerryk macrumors 68030

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    Money comes in because the question of value. I don't collect laptops. I use them for work for a a couple of years and then get a new one. It is a deductible expense, so the absolute price is not a huge factor. But the question of whether it provides me value, by making my work easier or faster does. Also it matters is I have to fiddle with the system. Waiting for a patch to fix this or that, or dealing with returns, or poorly performing peripherals cost me time, which is money. If the machine is not letting me earn more, I don't need it.
     
  17. raqball macrumors 6502a

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    How is that? Because if you buy something you'll force yourself to like it? The self justification of a purchase kind of thing? Some can see faults even when in the purchase justification / honeymoon phase whereas others can't..
     
  18. MrGuder macrumors 68020

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    All I'm saying is that your post is not the norm, I get that money doesn't come into play regarding your reason for purchasing laptops and that is fine for you. However a majority of people and I'd say most on this forum money does come into play and most would not keep a 3k dollar laptop they don't intend to use or might use down the road.
     
  19. Kcetech1 macrumors regular

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    Good to see you over here Darkloki, I don't feel quite as alone now. im on unit #3 now and still trying to get used to it however I think if I cant in the next week its going back.
     
  20. MarcBou macrumors regular

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    Getting 3000$ products like if thet were candys. Some people amazes me...

    It doesn't matter you are swimming in dollars and use them as toilet paper, .

    "I" ll keep it because I might use it eventually..." Hahaha.

    I can not take seriously and respect a person like that. That comment is disgusting.
     
  21. darkloki thread starter macrumors member

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    People make alot of assumption, I don't know why or what that's based on I said earlier on that people are different and people do different things. I never said I was rich, I never said I spent X amount of dollars on devices, but somehow that got filled in for me. Apple is a really big company, generally big companies employ "Lots of People". Now would it not be possible for a Family member to work at apple? Would it not be possible for a Family member to love another family member and gift said product to whom they love or maybe entice them to switch to apple when they were once a PC fanboy over a long period of time?

    Then would it not be possible that when a person receives said gift that he/she feels compelled to keep the gift, because selling the gift would feel kinda dirty/off? I said early on that the situation is unique, didn't want to go into detail about it, and I don't even know why I have to defend myself for something I didn't even say, just to protect myself from a silly assumption. When you assume you make an A$$ out of U and ME. Ass-u-me I generally don't tell others about this because the next thing that happens they immediately ask for a discount or something of that nature which is why I generally stay private about it. I've been a forum member for notebookreview for a huge period of time and never once stated it.

    Please don't assume....
     
  22. Kcetech1, Jan 3, 2017
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    I have bought far more expensive things because I might use them ... everyone is quite different. Cripes I bought a stack of X-serve units when they were discontinued just because I might have need or want to use them some day. How is Darkloki keeping a $3000 gift any different than me buying my husband a rather expensive custom Devon Tread watch I doubt he will wear more than a few times in the next decade?
     
  23. lambertjohn macrumors 6502

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    totally agree!!
     
  24. jerryk macrumors 68030

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    Everyone has hobbies and collections. I have a lot of expensive camera lenses I used for one shoot a few years ago and have not use since then. People I know have collections of Rolex watches.
     
  25. dapork, Jan 3, 2017
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    I can kind of understand the reactions of some people who hear about the excess consumerism that's out there; it can be frustrating especially for people without deep pockets who use these things for work. I used to collect cards and knives; laptops is unfathomable :confused:. But at the same time it's not like you're gonna re-educated someone on their values, so might as well refrain from guilt-tripping, and use the forum for discussion of the products in question. This doesn't seem the type of forum where personal lives and philosophy matter
     

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