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iPod touch Not very cool that 2.0 available for iPhone, iPod touch left high and dry
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The didn't set at time zone, but with Apple's history of doing things along with their headquarters being in California, it can be expected that it is going to be Pacific Time (PST). And probably 8AM PST. But with the east coast 3 hrs ahead of them, they might just make the release 5AM PST as they are an USA based company. So my guesses would be either 5AM PST or 8AM PST.
While I agree with the above post, it is still extremely annoying that Apple is holding back a finished product with no good reason whatsoever...
I feel that they do have a reason, they only have so many people that truly run their website and putting all the links and downloads up, and they probably planned that today would be for working all the MobileMe bugs out (which it appears they have been). It is also to spread out the downloads instead of having them stacked on top of each other, they released 7.7 middle of the night, then Apps start to download, and then 2.0 tomorrow, if those all happened at the same time their servers would be overloaded. And plus, they may not have planned on having it completed yet and for all we know it isn't, that 2.0 that is out right now may still be a beta. And they announced after WWDC that it would be released on the 11th, and with their run with Leopard getting delayed, how many of us actually thought that they would have it out on time?
Those are valid points, I'm still annoyed though... And just to rant, why can't any company deliver anything on time here lately? Everything from everybody is delayed! Why can't anyone actually meet their release windows anymore?
I get the feeling that Apple really doesn't care too much about getting it out at a certain time. They're not concerned with your "OMG I NEED 2,0 RIGHT NOW." They said 11/7 for 2,0 and they've still got well over 30 hours to get that. For all anyone cares, they could push it out when it is 23:59 tomorrow in Midway and still have it out on time.
And for all those who think that it's unfair that a link was found to the iPhone ipsw, that link has been closed and there's speculation that it wasn't even the right version.
Patience is a virtue. They told us when it is coming, and many people decided that it just had to come earlier. Well, it hasn't. Believe it or not, Apple doesn't completely revolve around getting the iPod 2,0 firmware out as soon as possible. They've been having enough problems with their online services this week and to expect something to come early is absurd.
Pretty much all of the information that we have points to the one date that they've given us to be correct.
And for all those who think that it's unfair that a link was found to the iPhone ipsw, that link has been closed and there's speculation that it wasn't even the right version.
Patience is a virtue. They told us when it is coming, and many people decided that it just had to come earlier. Well, it hasn't. Believe it or not, Apple doesn't completely revolve around getting the iPod 2,0 firmware out as soon as possible. They've been having enough problems with their online services this week and to expect something to come early is absurd.
Please, tell me what deadline they've missed. They announced 2,0's release for July 11. The whole "late June" thing was probably an estimate. Your personal deadlines and expectations are not the matter here.
Pretty much all of the information that we have points to the one date that they've given us to be correct.
Okay, remember the iTunes server crash two years ago, when lot of people tried to redeem their iTunes gift card that they got for x-mas and that led to iTunes server completely crashing for next two days.....
I think Apple is thinking that by putting the iPod touch upgrade now without getting the iTunes server ready for possibly the large number of customers trying to upgrade, the repeat of the crash is very possible....
and when iTunes server crash, the people at Apple or mobile carriers will not be able to activate the new iPhone 3G with the modified iTunes for the customers, and you know what happens when there's a long line, and the phones can't be activated with modified iTunes at the store....
So be patient...
Let Apple put final touches to the iTunes server so that they can serve large number of iPod touch users with the new upgrade.....
I think Apple is thinking that by putting the iPod touch upgrade now without getting the iTunes server ready for possibly the large number of customers trying to upgrade, the repeat of the crash is very possible....
and when iTunes server crash, the people at Apple or mobile carriers will not be able to activate the new iPhone 3G with the modified iTunes for the customers, and you know what happens when there's a long line, and the phones can't be activated with modified iTunes at the store....
So be patient...
Let Apple put final touches to the iTunes server so that they can serve large number of iPod touch users with the new upgrade.....
You mean, Get a Mac...
But, you can get started for the anticipating upgrade by doing one thing:
BUY THE APPS THAT YOU WANT FROM iTunes...
then, when you buy the 2.0 upgrade, iTunes will not only load up the new firmware, but also add the apps that you bought from iTunes, so you can immediately undock the iPod touch once the sync is complete, and start enjoying the new app.....
That's convenient that you can completely call the late June window void when it benefits your argument
Well, at least I'm bugging somebody. WANT NOW!
I'm gleefully pointing out, that in the process, Apple is making a buttload of money. The fact that people like you are trying to be apologetic when they so much as stumble when introducing a new service and/or product is pretty damn funny, because we should be holding knives to their throats expecting picture perfect launches for the prices they charge.
Come on, really. The iPod Touch and iPhone are bought mostly by hardcore Apple people, At $70/month and $200 up front, you're paying about $2000 after taxes (maybe more) to use that iPhone for 2 years, and those of us who have iPod Touches paid $300 (more than any other MP3 player) for a few features, only to have it updated (at a price), and updated yet again (at a price, though it isn't available yet).
They aren't a charity, they're out there to make money, but I see absolutely no problem being outright demanding of Apple. They're in this to make a lot of money, and they're going to make EVEN MORE. If you think the iPod Touch isn't a "subscription model" device like they describe the AppleTV to be, then you're kidding yourself.
Do you think Apple is selling as a middleman, the apps on the iTunes store for free? They make billions off us, and I'm going to continue to be relentless with my expectations.
My final thought: If Apple can't introduce stuff in a timely manner with the kind of money they're making, I think it reflects really poorly on the company, and Steve Jobs' skills in running a company.
Do you think Lexus would be highly regarded if they made their owners of LS460s go to a Toyota dealer and wait in a filthy lounge next to someone who got their 5 year old Toyota Echo fixed? XD I believe Apple owners expect to be treated better than people who bought a Dell, ironic because in customer service (warranties, mail ins, etc) Apple tends to be even worse.
After having dealt with Apple for so many years, you learn that the first date is always wrong. Leopard in spring 2007, that was bs. 10.6 in eleven months? I called bs on that one over a month ago. Apple missing their first estimate by two weeks is quite impressive for them.That's convenient that you can completely call the late June window void when it benefits your argument
FYI, a "picture perfect" launch doesn't need to be a day early. Even if you are paying for the product that is released.
Then you agree that Apple can't get their products out when they say they will. That's all I was saying. It seems to be the popular thing to do these days, with innumerable delayed products in the technology industry. Maybe I'm just an impatient person, but it only seems to get worse, particularly with companies that seem to be growing faster than their employee base does. it is also the fault of overzealous executive and marketing departments. Don't promise what you can't deliver!
I am sorry that you feel that way, but which would you rather have, a release on time that is EXTREMELY buggy, might not even work for regular use and frankly should still be in beta/developer mode, or a release that might be delayed somewhat that works near-flawlessly? I pick the second of the two options, how about you? And in Leopard, when they released it, it was very buggy, imagine if they released that on or near-on-time, you would be having a kernal panic or freezed computer every 10 minutes.
Exactly. It's not like they gave us a date and then just didn't release it then. They updated us, and then told us the date of release, which stands true. Also think of this: Apple has to deal with not only their internal departments, but also with developers and cell providers in order to get 2,0 out. Cry us a river, but there are limitations on these things. Jobs isn't sitting in his office saying "ahh, screw them. I don't feel like releasing it on time." If they could, they would. If you can do it faster, please go work for Apple for the benefit of all of us.
Can we stop the complaining? You'll get it on time. Tomorrow. I promise.
This part i agree with. 400.00 bucks for a damn MP3 player and then you hit us up for another 10 to give us what should have been on it in the first place.
I love Apple products, but i catch myself wanting to kick Steve Jobs in the nuts quite a bit.
Whenever something gets upgraded, people just start to pull this card. "oh, it should've been on there to begin with." Technology progresses constantly. If you thought that it was incomplete, you shouldn't have purchased it.
Haven't we beaten this issue to death enough on these forums
The iPhone gets it free because it is a subscription base product, the touch has to pay because they are not subscription based, and Apple can't release new features for free for some legal reason that is mainly about supporting the stockholders. How would you feel if you had Apple stock supporting the company and they are handing out new features to hundreds of thousands, if not millions for free? You would just be watching your stock lose value.
I don't have a Touch, but my sister does. I already e-mailed her and told her not to buy it when it comes out. I'll find it somewhere and send it to her.
Charging iPod Touch users $9.99 is just plain wrong. And for those of you who will inevitably disagree with me, put the kool-aid down.
and send it to her.Charging iPod Touch users $9.99 is just plain wrong. And for those of you who will inevitably disagree with me, put the kool-aid down.
Good luck finding it, it should take you a while and you would be crossing legal lines if you distributed it, have fun! Be sure to tell us when you find it.I don't have a Touch, but my sister does. I already e-mailed her and told her not to buy it when it comes out. I'll find it somewhere
Charging iPod Touch users $9.99 is just plain wrong. And for those of you who will inevitably disagree with me, put the kool-aid down.
I don't have a Touch, but my sister does. I already e-mailed her and told her not to buy it when it comes out. I'll find it somewhere
Charging iPod Touch users $9.99 is just plain wrong. And for those of you who will inevitably disagree with me, put the kool-aid down.
$10 is hardly the end of the world... It's just 2 less Starbucks Latte's for me this week.