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It's done for me. I've had two, wouldn't be interested in a third.
The Note 8 on the other hand, I'll probably own it, I might not pre-order immediately but then again, I might.
 
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It's done for me. I've had two, wouldn't be interested in a third.
The Note 8 on the other hand, I'll probably own it, I might not pre-order immediately but then again, I might.

Well, considering your first experience, that is the prudent move, so I definitely agree on that.
 
I hope Samsung starts thinking twice about batteries after the note 7 fiasco and figures out a large revomable battery would have avoided all this mess.
My Note 4 is only 2 years old and I already washed out two original batteries ; solded batteries and fast charging are just a super joke that any client has to avoid
 
No, I would not touch a refurb. My second Note 7 ran great and then in the last week I had it, would superheat when I took pictures or videos. I had an S7 that heated enough to burn my skin. If my S7 Edge weren't so nice I wouldn't have touched a Sansung phone again. I took it because it was free. On top of that, Samsung ended up paying me $100 for staying with them.
 
I hope Samsung starts thinking twice about batteries after the note 7 fiasco and figures out a large revomable battery would have avoided all this mess.
My Note 4 is only 2 years old and I already washed out two original batteries ; solded batteries and fast charging are just a super joke that any client has to avoid

I had a Note 4 since release, gave it to my mother years ago, she's still using it to this day on the original battery.

I personally never had a phone that I had to replace the battery.
 
I had a Note 4 since release, gave it to my mother years ago, she's still using it to this day on the original battery.

I personally never had a phone that I had to replace the battery.
My old Note 4 is now my friends and he's had no issues with the battery.
But...my other friend has gone through 2 batteries, the original and the oem battery.

Some do seem to have an issue...
 
Let me preface this by saying it's not going to happen. However, my Note 7 was great. It didn't get hot and I used it extensively for 2 months. For the record, I would love a refurbished Note 7. For now, I'm enjoying my Note 5 and will wait for the Note 8.
 
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I really wanted Note7, was saving up. Had tons of trouble with the Note II.

My first iPhone 6S + had some issues but the refurbished One bought last month is... perfect. Read that there was contamination during battery production.

Oh, and my Galaxy S7 got hot, three days old and screen went black. Poof. Could cool it down, literally, and get green text verbose mode during startup. They replaced it, showed new revision ID and been fine since.

I dropped a DTEK60 Blackberry on thick carpeting just 20" and swear it must have shifted battery or parts, got warmer hotter than it should, but shutdown let it rest and afterwards been fine.

High res displays mean more work for gpu as well as probably needing more memory and larger battery. The iPhone 6S+ at 188 grams is heavier than I want. Which is where the 5.5" DTEK60 comes in, lighter and as much screen real estate.

Was afraid the Note 7 would be too large and heavy to hold for long periods. But then I'm using an iPad mini4 right now so....
 
Still use mine every day, no issues.

Question about these neutering updates: can't savvy users just avoid them by turning off checking for updates and just refuse any that come up? Or are they stealthily shutting them down with a kill switch?
 
Question about these neutering updates: can't savvy users just avoid them by turning off checking for updates and just refuse any that come up? Or are they stealthily shutting them down with a kill switch?

I think smart people can be proactive, but the update is probably a stealth shut-down or they can use some sort of cell provider tech to prevent you from using basic cellular features. Using a Note 7 in its current capacity is reckless.
 
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Question about these neutering updates: can't savvy users just avoid them by turning off checking for updates and just refuse any that come up? Or are they stealthily shutting them down with a kill switch?

Yes they can.

So far I still charge to 100%, and as of 6:42 am 1/5/17 the most recent shut down attempt has not affected my phone.

My goal has been to keep using my note 7 until the S8 was available, if the updates get through then I will have to go back to using my old 5s for a while. Until then I am enjoying using my Note 7
 
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I'm happy to hear Samsung will continue the Note line with a Note 8 later this Fall. It clearly is the phablet flagship to beat. I'm also looking forward to the official report on what took down the Note 7.

Then there's this:
http://www.theverge.com/2017/1/6/14188390/samsung-q4-2016-profits-guidance-increase-earnings

Samsung predicts biggest profits in three years, just three months after Note 7 recall



Samsung is lucky their screen/chip division is so strong. Can you imagine what kind of year they would have had if they didn't have to recall the Note 7? It was their year to lose. Everybody gained from the Note 7 not being available on the market during this past holiday season, including Apple and Google (can you imagine how much further Apple's sales numbers would have dipped this year were it not for this gift from Samsung?).
 
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