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Notes from MWC: Copying iPhone, Offline Gmail, Turn by Turn GPS for iPhone

apolloa said:
Yeah. So that's Co Pilot and Tom Tom and the other company from today, yet so far NONE of them can sell the software thanks to Apple!!! Seriously, more and more people use smart phones for car Sat Nav, I do, because then you get out of the car and use the same device to walk around with and find places. Apple really are placing both feet together, taking aim with a big ol shotgun and blasting both feet off with this one!!
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Ok. How come g-map is in the appstore then?

http://www.xroadgps.com/Maps/GMapforiPhone/tabid/2463/Default.aspx

How is this any different to tom and co?
 
Kilamite said:
Make a good app and sell it for $0.99 and it'll sell extremely well. Think how many iPhone users are. The potential is huge to make a lot of money. $0.99 is an ideal price for a reason, it is the kind of money people can throw away with an impulse purchase. If developers aren't interested in earning a potential $1,000,000 from selling an app at $0.99 and making it good and hoping a potential 1.3 million people download it then who cares.

I really disagree paying anything more than $3 for an application for my iPhone. Something that someone has created, yet it is distributed for free (with Apple Developer Membership) and the developer doesn't have to do anything.

We aren't talking about people making a physical product - something like a chair, that for them to sell more than one they have to create more than one. We're talking about software that you make one, and it is just duplicated for however many people want to buy it.
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I originally thought your 99 cents reply was tongue-in-cheek. I didn't realize you were dead serious. But I agree with you, completely. I mean what's up with Adobe charging $1800 for a software suite you can just download from the website? Or Apple charging $79 for iWork when it's also available as a download from the website. It's ridiculous. Developers setting a high price for their products. The cheaper it is, the more it sells. Just ask EA. They dropped the price of Tetris from $10 to $5 and it's dropped from 3 to 13 in the top paid app rankings. And it's not even 99 cents. You don't need to say anymore than that. Point proved.
 
A company called Sygic demonstrated a full featured turn-by-turn GPS application for the iPhone and is planning on submitting it to the App Store
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Bullcrap. That's a mildly skinned TomTom 7 or 8. In other words, a fake.
 
preservative said:
Ok. How come g-map is in the appstore then?

http://www.xroadgps.com/Maps/GMapforiPhone/tabid/2463/Default.aspx

How is this any different to tom and co?
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Major difference at first glance? Two separate apps for all the US and it is just the US. It doesn't include Canada or Mexico like most other GPS's do. Plus it seems to be missing voice guidance (or at least it isn't mentioned) or text to speech for street names (not that I would expect that in $20 software).

Apple needs to lift the 1GB limit...
 
preservative said:
Ok. How come g-map is in the appstore then?

http://www.xroadgps.com/Maps/GMapforiPhone/tabid/2463/Default.aspx

How is this any different to tom and co?
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From their FAQ:
2. Does G-Map support real time Guidance? Such as Turn-by-Turn arrow and Voice prompt?
Currently, our application doesn't support turn by turn guidance including voice prompt. This is based on APPLE's strict strategy which prohibits any real time guidance. Once there’s any positive change in APPLE strategy, we'll support this function. Once there’s any positive change in APPLE strategy, we'll apply this function technically with no fail as well as free updates for this.
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diamond.g said:
Major difference at first glance? Two separate apps for all the US and it is just the US. It doesn't include Canada or Mexico like most other GPS's do. Plus it seems to be missing voice guidance (or at least it isn't mentioned) or text to speech for street names (not that I would expect that in $20 software).

Apple needs to lift the 1GB limit...
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Click the question mark ;)

G-map for Europe will be available within Q1 2009.

G-map for 15 States of U.S. and Canada will be available within Q1 2009.

For Central/South America, Asia and other countries, we're targeting to release
in Q2 2009.

The price of each application can be confirmed once they have been officially
put up in the App store.

The indicated size for free space for installation is an estimated figure,
and is subject to change.

I'd take tomtom any day. Doesn't this break the SDK thingy then?
 
MacRumors said:
- A company called Sygic demonstrated a full featured turn-by-turn GPS application for the iPhone and is planning on submitting it to the App Store despite SDK terms that seem to specifically prohibit such applications.
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I thought someone from Apple clarified that the only turn-by-turn apps prohibited are ones that attempt to use the Google Map data, but that as long as companies provide their own, they can do turn-by-turn apps. In essence, it's a Google restriction, not Apple's.

-mpm
 
preservative said:
Click the question mark ;)

G-map for Europe will be available within Q1 2009.

G-map for 15 States of U.S. and Canada will be available within Q1 2009.

For Central/South America, Asia and other countries, we're targeting to release
in Q2 2009.

The price of each application can be confirmed once they have been officially
put up in the App store.

The indicated size for free space for installation is an estimated figure,
and is subject to change.

I'd take tomtom any day. Doesn't this break the SDK thingy then?
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Of course if I wanted to take a road trip from VA to Texas I am screwed cause TX isn't included on the East Coast version (really Apple 1GB??)
 
diamond.g said:
Of course if I wanted to take a road trip from VA to Texas I am screwed cause TX isn't included on the East Coast version (really Apple 1GB??)
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The 1gb will be to protect the service providers. Image when tomtom does get released. Goodbye carrier :p. The whole appstore idea seems a bit flawed and the fact users can't install apps via CD media etc. What idiot ever thought of that!
 
rockosmodurnlif said:
Everyone is misunderstanding Ballmer. Microsoft has always been in favor of openness. They want your hardware open to run their software. That has always been Microsoft's business plan.
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And yet Ballmer's quote is attacking Apple just because their business model is different? We really should call him Ballsacks or Baldhead.

I've lost my respect for the Microsoft company, next computer I'm getting is a Mac.
 
preservative said:
The 1gb will be to protect the service providers. Image when tomtom does get released. Goodbye carrier :p. The whole appstore idea seems a bit flawed and the fact users can't install apps via CD media etc. What idiot ever thought of that!
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You can't download anything over 10 MB without WiFi anyways, we already download 1+ GB movies why should mapping software matter?
 
Consultant said:
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In addition HD-DVD failed because HD-DVD players are mini-pcs running modified extra DRM version of MS windows.

http://www.roughlydrafted.com/RD/Q4.06/2E6D9BB2-FE1B-4556-8389-67BD581FBCCC.html
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Yes, that's just why it failed :rolleyes: Nothing like a two and a half year old article with massively innacurate facts ( just look at the pie chardt ) to base comments on. Your not fit to consult

mpmchugh said:
I thought someone from Apple clarified that the only turn-by-turn apps prohibited are ones that attempt to use the Google Map data, but that as long as companies provide their own, they can do turn-by-turn apps. In essence, it's a Google restriction, not Apple's.

-mpm
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I'm sure it's an Apple restriction. I believe there are only three sat nav mapping companies in the world, the rest just buy the rights off the big three TomTom being one of them. For some reason TomTom hasn't appeared on the iphone yet even though it was working over a year ago. These companies would love to get their navigation on the iphone, somethings blocking it and i'm sure it's not google....
 
Sell it anyways?

Couldn't they still sell the app from their website, just not through the App store?
 
diamond.g said:
Of course if I wanted to take a road trip from VA to Texas I am screwed cause TX isn't included on the East Coast version (really Apple 1GB??)
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My TomTom includes all of US into 1GB. So, apparently yes, 1GB limit is large enough if you know how to program efficiently.

That is what gets Flash or MS products into trouble. They seem to assume a vast amount of hardware resources, so they don't feel the need to make their apps use less memory or CPU.
 
the fonts in the GPS app is not an apple fonts! this smells fishy! it looks like a PeeCee or windows mobile app, absolutely not apple like!!!
 
smokeonit said:
the fonts in the GPS app is not an apple fonts! this smells fishy! it looks like a PeeCee or windows mobile app, absolutely not apple like!!!
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Apple didn't make the GPS app. Not very good on reading are you? It's all detailed in the article..
 
Mjmar said:
The last time that I checked, integration between hardware and software is what people want. Ballmer doesn't know what he's talking about.
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He's reiterating Microsoft's mantra that what works best is a monopoly software vendor is good to feed hundreds/thousands of hardware vendors.

Microsoft thinks a one-to-many is healthy and that one-to-one is unhealthy.

What Linux wants is a many-to-many where the many on the left is actually a fractured one with many children free to modify the one, so long as the one's basic kernel is in tact.
 
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