I agreeFFS AirPods Max are by far the worst in their price segment.
If you've spent any time in audio studios, then you probably understand that the audio goals of studio headphones are not the same as the audio goals for consumer headphones, even those catering to "audiophiles." My home audio equipment isn't remotely the same as what would be used in a studio, nor would I want it to be.They make a big deal about how the headphones look, but say nothing about how they sound.
The best studio headphones, the ones the audio engineers use to make the content, both for the music and motion picture industry, these cost about $100. Only clueless consumers will pay more for worse sound.
I never even considered buying them, because aesthetically I think they are awful. Respectfully that is not objective, however the fact that their audio quality is trash, is fairly objectiveI agree
After being so fed up with having mine for years and them not receiving any kind of updates (aside from a port change from lightning to USB-C), I eventually sold them
The audio comes from KEF. So guess they could be equal to the PX8.If you've spent any time in audio studios, then you probably understand that the audio goals of studio headphones are not the same as the audio goals for consumer headphones, even those catering to "audiophiles." My home audio equipment isn't remotely the same as what would be used in a studio, nor would I want it to be.
For reference, my go-to over-ear headphones are B&W PX8s, which are fairly expensive (about double the AirPod Max headphones) and which register as "warm" compared to a flat, studio-headphone profile. They avoid sibilance (studio headphones do not), and nicely smooth out the upper midrange compared to studio headphones. For me, they are pleasurable and more closely match what I would experience sitting in a concert hall, rather than sitting on stage next to the performer. That, along with looks, features, and comfort, is where my money is going. I'm not exactly "clueless" here, because I also own studio headphones, and I know exactly what I'm paying for in both cases.
Unclear. KEF makes great loudspeakers, so that affiliation caught my eye as well. But for all we know right now, their involvement may have been relatively minimal (or not). Either way, the physical design of the headphones matters greatly, and my sense from reading this is that this was not KEF's work. The MacRumors blurb sounds like the sound is passable but not necessarily great, so I will want to read actual reviews before jumping to any conclusions.The audio comes from KEF. So guess they could be equal to the PX8.
How do you know the audio is trash. The audio is provided by KEF. One of the leading audio speaker producer in the world. The last thing they produce is trash.I never even considered buying them, because aesthetically I think they are awful. Respectfully that is not objective, however the fact that their audio quality is trash, is fairly objective)
I would at least vote for listen to them yourself. 😉Unclear. KEF makes great loudspeakers, so that affiliation caught my eye as well. But for all we know right now, their involvement may have been relatively minimal (or not). Either way, the physical design of the headphones matters greatly, and my sense from reading this is that this was not KEF's work. The MacRumors blurb sounds like the sound is passable but not necessarily great, so I will want to read actual reviews before jumping to any conclusions.
Because I have ears.How do you know the audio is trash. The audio is provided by KEF. One of the leading audio speaker producer in the world. The last thing they produce is trash.
So you listened to them before they were released?Because I have ears.
Do you know what 'aesthetically' means?..So you listened to them before they were released?
Do you know what 'aesthetically' means?..
Yes, that you are a phenomena who can decide on the sound quality by your eyes - impressive!however the fact that their audio quality is trash, is fairly objective
You're not great at interpreting what you read... I wasn't interested in them because they look like trash (subjective), when I tested them at a much later date, I found that they also sound like trash (objective when compared to other headphones in that price range). Hope this clears it up for you a bit.Yes, that you are phenomena who can decide on the sound quality by your eyes - impressive!
You're not great at interpreting what you read... I wasn't interested in them because they look like trash (subjective), when I tested them at a much later date, I found that they also sound like trash (objective when compared to other headphones in that price range). Hope this clears it up for you a bit.
Sounds to me more like you're talking your way out of it pretty badly. 😂however the fact that their audio quality is trash, is fairly objective
If you think that AirPods Max sound good, I really don't think sound is your thingSounds to me more like you're talking your way out of it pretty badly. 😂
For those who choose their headphones by design and ascetics over audio, you're better off with Apple or Beats.
You're not great at interpreting what you read... I wasn't interested in them because they look like trash (subjective), when I tested them at a much later date, I found that they also sound like trash (objective when compared to other headphones in that price range). Hope this clears it up for you a bit.
So you were writing about yourself, I get it and reading is not your thing. I understand, since you can use your eyes to judge the sound quality.If you think that AirPods Max sound good, I really don't think sound is your thing![]()
Hopefully they update them soon, they are no longer worth it.FFS AirPods Max are by far the worst in their price segment.
Oh no, not Joe Bogger's ignore list. What will I do now?..So you were writing about yourself, I get it and reading is not your thing. I understand, since you can use your eyes to judge the sound quality.
Ok this is getting ridiculous- welcome to my ignore list - you wrote hard for it. 😂
The did — USB-C, baby!!Hopefully they update them soon, they are no longer worth it.
JBL 500.What headphones are you using? We've had Sonys and Bose in my house for years and never has any issues connecting.
They'd need to have a considerable advantage over the Max I already have. Otherwise why would I spend the money? As native integration is already as good as it gets (I only connect to Apple devices) and comfort is fantastic as well the Px8 could at best be on par. I don't use these on the go so ANC modes and whatnot are irrelevant to me. For travelling I got the Airpods Pro where the adaptive ANC is crucial.Try Bowers & Wilkins Px8 and let's talk![]()
If anything that means you weren't missing out on anything. Why do you buy and keep headphones for many years if they're so terrible? Or if they were actually decent then why sell them? They were never gonna get new features of a new chip.After being so fed up with having mine for years and them not receiving any kind of updates (aside from a port change from lightning to USB-C), I eventually sold them
That comment was actually about the Max. And even though I don't agree that the Max sound like trash they do indeed merely sound average. Which certainly matters when purchasing them at MSRP. I got mine on some prime deal and for the money they're plenty for everyday use. I don't use anything Bluetooth for music production anyways (due to the delay inherent to Bluetooth which makes using them for work utterly impossible) and I don't need Spatial Audio with various ANC modes in the studio either.So you listened to them before they were released?
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