With 100% plasticky Nokia I didn’t have to worry about dropping, without any protective enclosure at all.plasticky phones
With 100% plasticky Nokia I didn’t have to worry about dropping, without any protective enclosure at all.plasticky phones
There’s an and in there - first party and “useful” and no money. That’s the common definition. Your definition: not useful…which is a personal definition. Nothing wrong with that Just acknowledgement of your own definition which you made up."Useful" is the operative word. Apple Maps is useless for me in India. So are Pages, Keynote, and others. So, for me, they are bloatware.
That doesn’t make it bloatware. Bloatware is third party preinstalled apps that you wouldn’t have installed yourself. Not often used as a term for the software by the manufacturer. You know good old MacAfee antivirus, different browsers, toolbars, games.
You got to understand where it came from if you want to use those terms in current context.
Exactly, and very interesting examples raised...More commonly bloatware is anything third party besides the maker of the OS. Not the hardware manufacturer.
Samsung puts bloatware on top of android. Some people like it. But it is bloat.
If it didn’t come from google or apple, or Microsoft it’s bloat.
This is why many choose a google device or Microsoft surface. It’s straight from the OS maker.
Many internal projects at big companies take many years to complete, the only reason you know about this one is apple is such a scrutinized company that you get leaks that you care about (because we’re posting in MR!)My son was born when the first rumors about Apple-made car came out.
He will probably graduate from college when this car is released.
Pathetic!
Just as it was the other guy's personal definition. There is no dictionary that defines some specific apps that are on Samsung as bloatware. It is all subjective. Just because Apple makes them does not make them "not" bloatware.There’s an and in there - first party and “useful” and no money. That’s the common definition. Your definition: not useful…which is a personal definition. Nothing wrong with that Just acknowledgement of your own definition which you made up.
That doesn’t make it bloatware. Bloatware is third party preinstalled apps that you wouldn’t have installed yourself. Not often used as a term for the software by the manufacturer. You know good old MacAfee antivirus, different browsers, toolbars, games.
You got to understand where it came from if you want to use those terms in current context.
Oh, they can, like they remedied with cookies that now user has to click endless list of consent forms on every website.remedy this to some extent
Bloatware to me is stuff you can't uninstall. But both sides seem to be much better about that now. At the very least you can remove everything from home screensThat doesn’t make it bloatware. Bloatware is third party preinstalled apps that you wouldn’t have installed yourself. Not often used as a term for the software by the manufacturer. You know good old MacAfee antivirus, different browsers, toolbars, games.
You got to understand where it came from if you want to use those terms in current context.
Well yes it does make them “not bloatware”. They are apps useful across a broad spectrum of users; even if a particular app is not useful to one person. Carry on![…]. Just because Apple makes them does not make them "not" bloatware.
Sometimes built-in applications are useless, sometimes 3rd party apps are must-have and 1st to install anyway.Bloatware to me is stuff you can't uninstall. But both sides seem to be much better about that now. At the very least you can remove everything from home screens
Who says it is not useful to one person? Maps are useless to a majority in India and other countries not called USA. Not sure how it is in China. Your reality is not everybody's reality.Well yes it does make them “not bloatware”. They are apps useful across a broad spectrum of users; even if a particular app is not useful to one person. Carry on!
You now have more of a choice, a concept that Apple users can never understand, i guess.Oh, they can, like they remedied with cookies that now user has to click endless list of consent forms on every website.
And because maps is not useful to YOU, one person, does not make it bloatware by the common definition.Who says it is not useful to one person? Maps are useless to a majority in India and other countries not called USA. Not sure how it is in China. Your reality is not everybody's reality.
Very useful in the entirety of all continents I've ever been to, Not all countries are like IndiaWho says it is not useful to one person? Maps are useless to a majority in India and other countries not called USA. Not sure how it is in China. Your reality is not everybody's reality.
You keep telling me as if you know what bloatware is. Do you?Very useful in the entirety of all continents I've ever been to, Not all countries are like India![]()
But regardless of its usefulness in India or not, that still doesn't make it bloatware. Learn what bloatware is first before using such a term to describe one application on a device, by the make of the device providing an essential part of the functionality of such device as bloatware…
Perhaps you should learn to read the entirety of the article, and understand computing history a little bit. Don't just take a sentence out of context to cover up for your clear and repeated mistakes.You keep telling me as if you know what bloatware is. Do you?
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What Is Bloatware and How to Find Bloatware Apps
Find out what bloatware is, what are examples of bloatware apps, and how to find bloatware on your PC, Mac, Android phone, or iPhone.www.avast.com
"Bloatware is a type of software that comes preinstalled on a computer, smartphone, or tablet. It takes up space, reduces battery life, and cripples performance."
I would stop this discussion if you could show it being mentioned in that article that Apple software cannot be bloatware. I've already given the type of software that can be considered as bloatware and it supports my argument. Maybe you should practice what you're preaching?Perhaps you should learn to read the entirety of the article, and understand computing history a little bit. Don't just take a sentence out of context to cover up for your clear and repeated mistakes.
You are missing the fact that the article is primarily a sales guide for their tool used to remove software. They have taken liberties and extended the definition, while also including what is actually bloatware. It is smart and subtle, but don't be fooled—it is marketing and sales literature for their tooling. You take a sentence out of context and ignore the commercial aspect of the article.I would stop this discussion if you could show it being mentioned in that article that Apple software cannot be bloatware. I've already given the type of software that can be considered as bloatware and it supports my argument. Maybe you should practice what you're preaching?
Giving your opinion does not constitute giving definition. How do you know that it is a sales guide? Another opinion? Excellent. So, you are the expert and all others, including avast, have to take your opinion as a fact? What have the others said apart from their opinions? So, if two guys post their opinions and their opinions concur, will it become a fact?You are missing the fact that the article is primarily a sales guide for their tool used to remove software. They have taken liberties and extended the definition, while also including what is actually bloatware. It is smart and subtle, but don't be fooled—it is marketing and sales literature for their tooling. You take a sentence out of context and ignore the commercial aspect of the article.
And to a certain degree, you are now doing the same double bluff and returning it to me. I, and others, have already given the example and definition many (too many) posts back, you decided to ignore it as you fabricated your own definition. It didn't have to get to this, all it takes is a little research, understanding of computing history, and educating yourself about what bloatware actually is.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 Dude, ahem, how about the call to action to buy their product 🤣🤣🤣Giving your opinion does not constitute giving definition. How do you know that it is a sales guide? Another opinion? Excellent. So, you are the expert and all others, including avast, have to take your opinion as a fact? What have the others said apart from their opinions? So, if two guys post their opinions and their opinions concur, will it become a fact?