Now do you THINK Apple would release a sluggish iPhone?

penajmz

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The whole 1GB or 2GB discussions are out of control. Regardless of what both phones have, they will be smooth as per always with Apple, especially a flagship device.


Come on people!
 

Hexiii

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The whole 1GB or 2GB discussions are out of control. Regardless of what both phones have, they will be smooth as per always with Apple, especially a flagship device.


Come on people!
Yeah, sometimes I think how slower the 6+ must be with almost double the pixels and the downscaling, but then I think whether Apple would release the phone if it was slow...
 

PTLove

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The iPad Air is already what I would consider sluggish in certain aspects. Why wouldn't they do the same to a phone?
 

Zwhaler

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The 6 Plus isn't sluggish overall, but is definitely pushing the limits of the hardware with the downscaling.
 

penajmz

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I just feel like people want the 2GB of ram just to be able to say it has 2GB of ram.

If you get your phone and it's too slow for you then return it! You have 14 days...
 

HiRez

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Having your apps crash from memory pressure is the bigger problem than sluggishness, WRT RAM. Not to mention stuff that developers don't even put in their apps or scale back because the current crop of devices can't handle it -- things you don't even know you're missing.
 

Menel

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The whole 1GB or 2GB discussions are out of control. Regardless of what both phones have, they will be smooth as per always with Apple, especially a flagship device.


Come on people!
They did it last year with iPad Air.
 

TommyA6

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The whole 1GB or 2GB discussions are out of control. Regardless of what both phones have, they will be smooth as per always with Apple, especially a flagship device.


Come on people!
iPhone smoothness has almost nothing to do with RAM amount. It's about nicely optimized OS and state of the art hardware CPU/GPU.

RAM allows for stuff to be kept in memory, so the CPU/GPU etc. don't have to process everything from zero.
 

baummer

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Agreed - so long as the phone runs efficiently and does not have significant performance issues, the actual hardware specs are somewhat irrelevant. The A8 seems like a beast of a processor to be sure.
 

Wailord

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I own the iPad Air. It is not slow or sluggish... Or maybe you power users need other devices I guess.
"The devices will be smooth as always!"
"My device isn't smooth."
"Well buy another device or change your definition of smooth!"
 

derekgroves

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Do those thinking the 6+ (*if* packed with 1gb RAM) won't be sluggish, fully understand the complications and ramifications of constant downscaling of apps? What that entails and the room for lag and slow-down on the user end that this introduces?

Just recognize the potential here for a less than optimal user experience. May not be an issue at all, just don't blindly put your faith in Apple and not acknowledge all the angles here.
 

FrankySavvy

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"The devices will be smooth as always!"
"My device isn't smooth."
"Well buy another device or change your definition of smooth!"
I think the iPhone 6 and 6 plus will run great! Just like every other iPhone. I can't wait too see the camera improvements and use the bigger screen! :) I have big hands!
 

TJ82

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There is precedent for Apple releasing sluggish devices.

But, if they do, they'll patch it reasonably quickly to allay returns.
 

eoblaed

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They already released a sluggish MacBook Pro (1st gen rMBP), so why not?
Did you dip yours in honey or something?


How is the first gen rMBP sluggish? I own it. Lol
Yeah. I do a ton of development work on mine. It's anything but sluggish. Been very happy with my 2012 rMBP, so much so that I've seen no reason to upgrade to either the 2013 or 2014 models.
 

geoff5093

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iPhone smoothness has almost nothing to do with RAM amount. It's about nicely optimized OS and state of the art hardware CPU/GPU.

RAM allows for stuff to be kept in memory, so the CPU/GPU etc. don't have to process everything from zero.
You're right that the RAM keeps stuff in memory that you are using, i.e. background tasks while switching between programs, but if it gets full and it has to close apps and re-open the lag is from the app re-opening from the storage memory which is much slower than RAM. So that time delay is the app re-caching to the RAM from storage, not necessarily the CPU/GPU.