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NullRiver said:
We've finally gotten in contact with Apple. Looks like the lack of communication was due to automated e-mail systems being employed on both ends, which resulted in e-mails being lost in transit.

MobileMe?
 
I paid $10 for NetShare. If Apple removes my ability to use it, I expect to be reimbursed for the money paid for the app, and the value I get out of it. That would be about $60 a month for a tethering plan through AT&T. Since that won't happen, class action suit, anyone?


But seriously, Apple is in charge. Why would they even put this app up unless they were prepared to face the consequences?

Did you add a tethering plan to your account, or are you expecting Apple to reimburse you for something you broke your contract to use?
 
My experience of netshare is that it drains the battery in 5 minutes, while the phone is plugged on the outlet.
So it is unusable outdoors.
Will Nullriver correct that later?
 
Did you add a tethering plan to your account, or are you expecting Apple to reimburse you for something you broke your contract to use?

Ummm the iPhone accounts include tethering. They're the same as all other data plans on AT&T, in fact if you call AT&T they'll tell you it's included. And no one broke their contract, plus Apple put Netshare up on the store.
 
My experience of netshare is that it drains the battery in 5 minutes, while the phone is plugged on the outlet.
So it is unusable outdoors.
Will Nullriver correct that later?

my experience is that i can tether for at least 2 hours while plugged into my mbp, so it is entirely useable out doors.
 
No other smartphone allows tethering without a monthly cost. I'd love it if the iPhone were the first, but I don't expect it.

Nonsense. Thats some bad brainwashing you've got going on there. Most other smartphones allow you to tether and try and get away with tethering on your normal data plan and the vast majority of people get away with it.

Scaring people with extremely unlike overcharges is just FUD.

Its like saying no car allows you to speed without automatically getting a ticket, when most people exceed the speed limit every day without a ticket at all, and only a very, very small percentage get caught. This of course while justifying Apple selling a Ferrari with a built-in speed limiter set to 55.
 
I think its because of some carriers not liking the fact that the iPhone can take advantage of being used as a laptop modem. Especially those who offer UL data plans like AT&T and O2. Others who offer plans with fixed amounts of data (like most of them) wont be as anal about it.

A good amount of smart phones on the market include the ability to operate as a modem (including the phone I currently own, the AT&T Tilt). Therefore, I don't think that is really the issue at hand. The iphone is not even close to the first to the first phone to have this kind of capability.
 
my experience is that i can tether for at least 2 hours while plugged into my mbp, so it is entirely useable out doors.

Maybe web surfing drains less battery. I use Remote Desktop to a XP machine, whichs transfers data contnuously.
 
I've heard people having issues with charging their phone while on battery on their MacBook? I tested today and I had no problem doing that...
 
Its a shame its not available in the UK!

I doubt it will be, as O2 provide a usb wireless device for £15 i think, so having iphone replace that for iphone users, i highly doubt it. :(
 
Its a shame its not available in the UK!

I doubt it will be, as O2 provide a usb wireless device for £15 i think, so having iphone replace that for iphone users, i highly doubt it. :(

Why not? All of O2's other phones provide free tethering.

Phazer
 
Why not? All of O2's other phones provide free tethering.

Phazer


Yeah, So does TeliaSonera which is the provider who sells the iPhone in Sweden :) I even called them and they said I could use it within my unlimited data plan.
 
lol, are you asking if they use MobileMe or if Apple is being as tight lipped about the situation as they were about MobileMe? :)

It was supposed to be a joke...as in the reason NullRiver didn't receive its correspondence, because Apple was using MobileMe.
 
Ummm the iPhone accounts include tethering. They're the same as all other data plans on AT&T, in fact if you call AT&T they'll tell you it's included. And no one broke their contract, plus Apple put Netshare up on the store.

I don't think so. The iPhone data plan is $30. According to:
http://www.wireless.att.com/businesscenter/popup/dataconnect-comp-table.jsp

the plan which includes tethering is $60. So, unless you're paying $60 for the data portion of your contract, you're not paying for tethering. Like it or not, AT&T reserves tethering as an extra function for which they will charge you extra. (IIRC, the Terms of Service also specify explicitly what you are and are not allowed to use the bandwidth for. I suspect people violate this on a regular basis.)

Of course, there is a distinction between what a phone is capable of and what AT&T will allow. However, to borrow Archie's analogy for a moment, just because a Ferrari is capable of exceeding the speed limit doesn't mean that it is allowed to exceed it. Nor does it mean you get to whine with very much moral legitimacy if you get caught.

(There's a "well, if he didn't want to be burgled, why didn't he invest in a better lock" vibe to the tethering discussion that worries me. That is, the idea that if we are capable of it, then it must automatically be allowed to the fullest extent. This is not how we maintain a healthy society.

However, yes, Apple did put NetShare on their App Store. That does imply they're ok with using iPhone as a SOCKS proxy. Or at least they were. I would argue that a SOCKS proxy is not technically tethering. I may be splitting hairs though.)
 
I bought it Friday when it reappeared. Never played with it until Monday. It works great for me. Took about 2 minutes to setup, continued to work even when the screen went to sleep (just like my EDGE radio Apps). I found the speed over EDGE to be like surfing at my parents house (256Kbps DSL) and would certainly pay an extra charge to have this convenience available all the time.

A friend of mine, my former boss to be exact, said that he was not going to switch to the iPhone from his Blackberry until he could tether. Now I have to do some tests with it, but I think I may have another convert under my belt.

It is also nice that this is Wi-Fi, so you can be inconspicuous, but it would be nice if it worked over the USB cable, so that you aren't wasting the iPhone's battery, but you can still charge it from the computer, so it will work if needed.

TEG
 
Now if only Apple will get in touch with the little guys and bring back Great Apps such as "BoxOffice".. Or at least give the guy an idea of what their deal is with the Application.
 
What's the odds that if NullRiver and Apple can't come to an agreement regarding Netshare that for the next "software update" Apple is going to put a patch in the update that renders Netshare useless??

Sadly, I'd say it's almost a certainty.. hopefully I'm wrong..

It's too bad that Apple didn't implement a system where they could review every app submission before posting to the iTunes store. Then, they could ensure the quality of the apps and ensure that apps don't violate any terms that Apple has set up with it carriers.

Oh wait... they actually DID do this!!!

Apple's app validation process is a joke. So far, a handful of apps have been released and then pulled. If Apple was performing due-diligence on each app, like they said was crucial to the success of the SDK, things like this wouldn't happen.
 
Apple's app validation process is a joke. So far, a handful of apps have been released and then pulled. If Apple was performing due-diligence on each app, like they said was crucial to the success of the SDK, things like this wouldn't happen.

Yah, out of over 1000 apps released. A handful makes the whole system a "joke".

Oh wait. It doesn't.

In fact the App Mobile Store is by far, the best mobile app software disruption system created so far.

Go ahead. Look at nokia, sony, palm or rim.

find a better system.

cricket sounds.
 
Mine works great, hasn't disappeared, doesn't shut down when the screen locks and doesn't seem to suck all the life out of my battery. YMMV.

What was the iSync reference above?
 
I think its because of some carriers not liking the fact that the iPhone can take advantage of being used as a laptop modem. Especially those who offer UL data plans like AT&T and O2. Others who offer plans with fixed amounts of data (like most of them) wont be as anal about it.
Actually, AT&T caps their data plans to 5GB just like all the other telcos. The reason they don't like it is because it limits them from ripping people off out of another $30 a month. Hopefully Apple will make some negotiations with them, and this can be an exclusive feature to the iPhone. We can only hope.:rolleyes:
 
Yah, out of over 1000 apps released. A handful makes the whole system a "joke".

Oh wait. It doesn't.

In fact the App Mobile Store is by far, the best mobile app software disruption system created so far.

Go ahead. Look at nokia, sony, palm or rim.

find a better system.

cricket sounds.

You mean a software store where you can get the apps you want, without them being yanked due to your service provider. I think that would be ALL of them EXCEPT the App store.
 
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