None of the Nvidia cards support DX10.1
I think it is more the feeling that Apple is an advanced computer maker. They should be using advanced parts. I mean they got Intel to give them the Xeons early why can't they get Nvidia (or AMD) to get the latest GPU's to them?Wow!
I am quite surprise at the discomfort to many that this new option for us gen 1 MacPro have in the GPU arena.
I am quite content to get this, and I am glad that the Emails to the media and Apple have paid off to some of us who cared about a viable solution for running OSS and Pro Apps. I know gamer are happy as well, but to see some complain now that the card is out?
C'on, NVIDIA is doing a marketing hype to get the Windowz gamer to shell out more money for cards that all they do is over clock them and/or put two card wrapped in a technical package with marginal gains.
For me, I bought it yesterday as soon as I found it on the Apple Store. I can now have a stable system where I can have all my monitors running and again I can gain my productivity when I run my batches. The more content I create, the more viable my business is. And for that, in a year or two (my system is only months old) I will invest in Apple again with a greater degree of confidence that I could have had just 2 days ago!
To all that bashed our cause to get this card... and thought that we would never gain anything... well I never did understand the reason for your behavior nor the ones that now ask for the 9xxx instead. I see that many don't even own a MP
I hereby send a thank you to all that stood the punishment and at time humiliation of sitting on this... we are all well compensated.
Hmm, you go from 40+GB/s (GPU mem to GPU) of bandwidth to 4GB/s (system mem to GPU) and that isn't a problem?
Hey... we have the damn card... now LEAVE APPLE ALONE!!!!
How long until the firmware is ripped and posted on the net so we can buy equivalent cards from other OEMs and flash them?
Yes, I agree with you. However, I think that Apple has not bought into the NVIDIA marketing strategy of providing the same GPU with several specs. As such, they select (albeit at a slow pace) those cards that best fits a performance level that is adequate for their market. We could say price/performance, but someone will we quick to point out that there are cheaper alternative at higher performance, but they forget the value here is the OS/App/HW integration that you get with Apple.....
Hey... we have the damn card... now LEAVE APPLE ALONE!!!!
Oh, you'd probably find that the new card really isn't dependent on system memory for much provided the FB is large enough. So yeah PCIe 1.1 versus 2.0 are only relevant if the 2.0 system uses the higher power allowance (which Apple doesn't).You're not trying to tell us that all the textures are preloaded into the video ram on the card now are you?
Anyway we're not talking about raw bandwidth of the bus, but the efficiency with which we can stream from system ram to the graphics card memory.
It's true that the system memory is the slowest link in the chain, but that doesn't directly translate to PCI Express 1.1 not affecting overall performance of the card. I'll wait to see what real world tests throw up rather than theoretical limits.
M.
Never said that. But how do those textures get to the GPU? Oh YEAH! The hard drive and optical drive store the files that ultimately supply those textures! Hard drives run wicked fast! What was I thinking!
Never said that. But how do those textures get to the GPU? Oh YEAH! The hard drive and optical drive store the files that ultimately supply those textures! Hard drives run wicked fast! What was I thinking!
While I agree with this part, I'm not waiting. It can't be as bad as my 7300.
As to you not wanting to wait, it's a no brainer for you to upgrade, a 7300 must be a really painfull gaming experience.
I just want to know am i going to get the ~40% speed up over my 1900xt that the version in the 2008 macpro delivers, before i cough up the readies.
M.
Probably because it has twice the VRAM as the 7300 and is a much more reliable product than the ATI. But if you or anyone else (MikeDTyke) are so concerned about this card running on PCI 1.1 instead of PCI 2.0, then just go out and buy a new Mac Pro and quit whining on this thread.
Seriously, Apple took a while, but they came through with what should be a great product. Some people are never happy. Sheesh.
Don't put words in my mouth. I NEVER said that. I said the GPU was not the bottleneck. Do you even know how a computer works? I said CPU, FSB, and RAM were the bottlenecks. In case you don't know, system bandwidth and FSB are synonymous. I'm done with this argument. Next...
