As many has already said here, the main problem with GeForce Now isn't quality of streaming or the GPU in their data center. It's the lack of games as too many greedy publishers are blocking their games on GFN, which is such a shame...
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Nvidia Announces New High-Performance Membership Tier for GeForce NOW
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The PS5 and XB Series X seem to do quite fine without a dedicated GPU.
as much as i hate subs, this is actually pretty good value. The GPU market tends to advance quickly and hardware gets outdated pretty fast. Add the current scalping issue and it's suddenly an excellent deal
Downside is that they need to have your game and i think that list is getting smaller
According to preliminary benchmarks from Geekbench (OpenCL), the RTX 3080 scores 180K, the RTX 3090 scores 200K while the 32-core M1 Max GPU should score maybe around 75-80K.
Which leads me to believe the 3080 is still 2.25X faster and the 3090 is 2.5X faster.
We're not there. At least not yet. But it's very decent for a mobile computer. We'll see how it expands in future Desktop Macs, such as the iMac 27-in + Mac Pro.
Those consoles fit the definition of dedicated GPU since they have high bandwidth synchronous GDDR memory.
Its an online gaming service. They have just updated part of the data center that runs these games to a better video card. Microsoft made a similar announcement that their Xbox Cloud service now runs on all Xbox Series X machines vs the older Xbox One X machines.
But are you measuring the M1 Max with Apple's Metal optimizations? We might be there!
THIS!!!!!!! No one gets this it seems. They could be running the fastest video card on the planet in that data center but they have ZERO control over the network between their data centers your device. You could be far away from the closet data center, go through many network devices from many network providers to finally get your location. Once their your network could be setup wrong.
I have tried stadia and xbox cloud and both are laggy at times over 1gig Internet connections. Some games are "OK" but for example I tried to recently play Forza 4 and was crashing all the time because of input lag.
I've actually found the latency to be a non-issue on GeForceNow. I've played FPS games like Apex Legends on there without a problem.
Given the unified M1 architecture, a discrete GPU and the bus bottleneck would slow things down. This isn't Intel integrated video. Far from it...
Wont matter either way.
First this is a cloud gaming service that now offers you to pay more to run your game on a computer in the data center that has a faster video card. This is not you renting a 3080 and putting in your PC at home. Network LAG/Latency is the #1 factor in cloud gaming, not the GPU used in the cloud. Anyone paying more for this better have a fantastic network connection to Nvidia gaming cloud or a faster GPU in a cloud machine is a total waste of money.
Second, the Apple GPU in the new M1 Pro/Max, could be faster than a 3090 but it would not matter unless games are ported to use that GPU. Until Apple puts some serious effort behind that, by engaging AAA developers and probably giving them $$$ incentive and expertise to port those games to MacOS (UNIX) and Metal it wont happen.
The best we can hope for is that iOS games, get "enhanced" by those developers to take advantage of the faster ARM/M1 CPU/GPU's.
Maybe on paper, but unless the game is ported to use Metal, it wont matter.
They rent you RTX3080 for $99 for 6 months. It SOUNDS like a good value, but your fps is limited to 120Hz at 1440p. So what good is RTX3080 for? My RTX 2060 can push more than 240Hz at 1440p. And I won't have 20 msec roundtrip network lags between my keyboard and my screen.
I love Doritos tho
and my PC and spending day and night in my cave.My doctor told me I need to go outside more and get vitamin D so I bought New World and explore the vast wilderness of Aeternum in search of sun ray tracing.
Seems a bit overpriced to me for what your getting, they only offer a handful of free games. The rat you either have to buy or run through Steam so again buy. So you are essentially renting a GPU.
I think Microsoft has totally nailed the games subscription service idea with Game Pass. Nvidia just can't compete.
I think Microsoft has totally nailed the games subscription service idea with Game Pass. Nvidia just can't compete.
Kind off, they do have totally custom built SOC's with built in powerful graphics chips. You can't buy the SOC's they use. Plus a games console is designed from the ground up to run games which helps.
Well, at least this is a way for the general public to gain access to high-performance graphics. You know, those of us who can’t find a card or console for sale anywhere and won’t pay the extortionist pricing that scammers are charging. That said, I tried GEforce Now on my iPad Pro M1, and it didn’t work well at all. My controller worked well…until I launched a game - then nothing. My son has had luck getting this to work well on his previous generation MacBook Pro, but for me…nada. He brought his MacBook over and I played a couple games and it was pretty good. That said, it is a buggy mess when using an IPP.
I was thinking exactly the same thing. Not only that, but the required power and cooling of your local space is outsourced, as well as any maintenance and backups. And yes, latency is an issue, but I’m not really competitive (just a recreational gamer) so not as much for me.
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What games can you play on the m1 max though currently?Who wants an NVIDIA RTX 3080 anyway now, when it is slower than a M1 Max?
Also always having the latest and greatest tech without needing to buy it since Nvidia will likely continue to replace the 3080 with whatever comes out at the high end each time.
It is a pretty solid deal compared to a high end gaming PC
I've always found it hard to compare Metal benchmarks, the 3080 and 3090 don't have those because they're not for Macs.
For the record, the M1 GPU scores 21K on Metal benchmarks (is it optimized as much as M1 Pro and M1 Max ?), while the AMD Radeon RX 6900 XT scores around 165K in both OpenCL and Metal.
They have dedicated GPU's. They are AMD GPU's based off their RDNA 2.0 tech. I read that the Xbox Series X essentially has a custom AMD 6700 GPU. About the same power as a NVIDIA 2070 Super. The CPU in that system is a AMD 3700X, 8C/16T.
YES!will this support pro motion?
"Gaming on a Mac? Play at native display resolutions, up to 1440p for most iMacs and 1600p for most MacBooks. With the new MacBook Pro, stream and game natively at 120 FPS with the ProMotion 120Hz displays. Or, connect an external monitor for 120 FPS gaming on any Mac."