I was replying to someone who mentioned Apple's hardware in terms of games running natively without GFN.
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Nvidia Launches GeForce NOW 'Ultimate' Tier With RTX 4080 GPU for Cloud Gaming at 240 Frames Per Second
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A gaming card (which needs an whole gaming computer to go with it) and a phone are in different categories and can't be compared. Many view a phone as a necessity and a gaming computer as discretionary.$1,200 GPU is inaccessible for many, but a $1,200 iPhone is not? 🤷♂️
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Nvidia needs to offer an interest-free monthly payment plan like Apple does for the iPhone.
For instance, suppose someone said "A $20,000 gaming computer is inaccessible for many".
It's as if you replied:
"A $20,000 gaming computer is inaccessible, but a $20,000 car is not? 🤷♂️"
The reply doesn't make sense because a gaming computer and a car aren't in the same category.
I tried GeForce Now for giggles, and I found it to be total crap. I have a 1Gbps cable connection, and the lag/stuttering made it completely unplayable. Obviously it's better for others, but I wouldn't use this service if they paid me it was so bad.
Even an iPhone is discretionary. A cellphone today is more in the needs category just like some sort of car depending on where you live. And like an iPhone, a new car is discretionary
Absolute garbage. I can't think of anything more useless and insulting to the player than playing games with DLSS (upscaling) and with fake frame generation on, then also playing them over the internet with even more quality degradation and high latency.
The idea of "cloud gaming" is such an insult as if people aren't privileged enough to own things anymore.
The idea of "cloud gaming" is such an insult as if people aren't privileged enough to own things anymore.
Until? I think we can safely say at this point in the Mac's evolution, that we are past the "until" stage and now well into the "never going happen" phase.
My monitor's 16:10 and it works fine for me. I just get a pillar-barred image on my HDTV to match the monitor's aspect ratio. So I changed the setting on Steam's Big Picture setup to change my monitor to a 16:9 resolution when active.
Input latency.
listen to me. GeForce now sucks. It’s laggy. GeForce Now Premium also sucks, laggy. BUT GeForce now 3080 tier (120fps mode) is the best game streaming I’ve ever used. And it feels native! Zero lag.
Read above. All cloud gaming sucks. But if you can, just try the 3080 tier. It’s amazing.
Guess that was my issue, I was using the free tier to recover a save game file (another story). But if the free tier leaves such a poor impression I wouldn't ever try paying for it. Besides, I have a Windows gaming box with a 3070ti anyway so GFN holds no appeal to me anyway.
Agreed. They should do away with the free tier. They make nothing from it, and it turns away potential long-term customers. They should offer a low-cost trial to the 3080 tier for a week or so and would hook a lot of new customers this way. The 3080 tier is incredible (although I have a low latency/high bandwidth connection to my local GFN server), and I would like to see it become a huge success. They can then attract back the publishers they lost a few years ago. They only downside is not being able to play any game you choose, although there are plenty of choices.
You might see appeal when you decide to upgrade your system, and one option is $20 and the other is $1500 for a new gpu/cpu/mobo.
$1500 to play the same game with more frames. Think about that.
And one is instant and requires zero work. While the other makes you wait for shipping, installing it, and electricity costs.
That was the tipping point for me. When I saw game streaming was basically native like (on 3080 tier), and I was calculating the costs - It was a no brainer.
And if it’s THIS good now, where I can literally be the kill leader in multiplayer games at 4k 120hz…then I have no doubt in my mind that streaming will be the future of gaming
You need to take consistency into account. I have gigabit internet with Spectrum. But streaming video and games are HORRIBLE because I have drops in my internet connection. I hate spectrum. I wish 10% of the whole ”Apple is a monopoly on iOS apps so let’s force side loading” would apply to ISPs. I only have spectrum. They keep having to repair equipment outside the house. It’s good for a month then things get horrible again.
You know it’s bad when your HD streams of movies dip to SD resolution and you have gigabit internet. Sigh.
This would be well worth it only if the service wasn't missing so many games. I would actually prefer to just rent a GPU like Shadow, and install my own games, but they don't have 4080's or Nvidia's level of service.
Has anyone actually paid $1000 for an iPhone in the past several years? At least in the US, carriers every year have at least $1000 off with trade ins, which means you can just keep upgrading every year as long as you stay with the carrier. Last I looked Nvidia didn't have any trade in programs.
The free tier is honestly a joke, any time of the day and you are going to have a 1-2 hour wait for a maximum 60 minute gaming session.
I think they should make the free tier enough to see how the paid service works and keep it limited. Because right now the free tier is absolute crap and does nothing to sell me on upgrading - even if I was in the market for it.
For now I'll keep gaming on my gaming PC, playing all the games I want to without GFN. I only tried it to fix an issue and to see what it was all about and was not impressed in the least based on the free tier. I wonder how many other potential purchasers try the free tier and see that it's absolute dog doo and give up on it.
Yea I had less than a $10 monthly installment when I traded 12PM for 13PM, and I traded 13PM for Z Fllp 4 even swap. It's not the best if you switch carriers, but I haven't switched in forever because AT&T had no coverage somewhere I went often
No crying here, I just don't use the service at all, opting to have a RTX 4090 instead. Even if I did want to pay, I don't find their service particularly useful as they don't support most games, making it useless in most of my use cases. FYI I wasn't pointing out that the free tier was a joke because I felt entitled to better service, but rather to support that it shouldn't even exist in its current state, there are better ways to entice new users than that level of frustration.
I’m impressed that cloud gaming is even viable. I’m surprised the latency doesn’t cause more issues.
I just wanted to come here and recommend this as it works very well.
Been playing the AC games via this and works smooth AF!
Been playing the AC games via this and works smooth AF!
I know it's been a while, but try Moonlight. It's a reimplementation of Nvidia's solution, but open source.