With heatsink sizes (GPU and CPU) becoming ginormous, I’ve considered (including very recently) a custom liquid loop build. Beyond the downsides of a possible (rare) leak, the uptick pricing of water cooling components as well as the skyrocketing prices of other PC components is quickly draining — see what I did there?
— my custom PC enthusiasm.I wouldn't recommend building a custom GPU/CPU loop, air coolers do a good enough job these days.With heatsink sizes (GPU and CPU) becoming ginormous, I’ve considered (including very recently) a custom liquid loop build. Beyond the downsides of a possible (rare) leak, the uptick pricing of water cooling components as well as the skyrocketing prices of other PC components is quickly draining — see what I did there?
T0n1_92 said:
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My 5080 is fine (but I am not using any fan software for it). If I remember correctly having fastboot enabled doesn't fully shutdown unless you flip the power switch.
For my system, it’s not just after sleep. Even if I do a full shutdown and ‘cold' boot, the info isn’t updating.
Furthermore, the fan reporting and management is borked following any change (e.g., lower power limit). And when the VBIOS finally takes over, the fan ramp is wild, frequently oscillating from 30% to 90%+ and back. Worse yet, the emergency cooling doesn’t even properly affect all fans, which might be what this user is describing in the 576.02 feedback thread:
My observation:
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By the way, the fan reporting and management seem fine on my 5080, including via GPU Tweak.
Anyway...
I did apply the hot fix version:
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So far, the above problems appear decently corrected. However, who really ******** knows at this point.
Yeah, my 5080 was fairing better than the 4080. Nonetheless, as demonstrated, this is also about tuning software (e.g., Afterburner, Firestorm, GPU Tweak III, Precision X). Making any adjustment (e.g., power limit, V/F curve) would instigate even more bugs, at least on the 40 series. Somewhat fortunately, as also mentioned by JayzTwoCents, you could set a static fan speed, which is what I had to do before applying the Hotfix.
I get why you’d mention that; however, I prefer to disable such a feature, whether that’s in Windows, on Xbox, smart TVs, monitors, etc.
Fair recommendation but I’ve been opting for the Studio Driver version as I don’t game on my PC.
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I think the difference is that Apple doesn't update (video) drivers monthly. Nvidia could take the Apple route and make developers fix their applications instead of trying to incorporate fixes in their drivers.Yeah, my 5080 was fairing better than the 4080. Nonetheless, as demonstrated, this is also about tuning software (e.g., Afterburner, Firestorm, GPU Tweak III, Precision X). Making any adjustment (e.g., power limit, V/F curve) would instigate even more bugs, at least on the 40 series. Somewhat fortunately, as also mentioned by JayzTwoCents, you could set a static fan speed, which is what I had to do before applying the Hotfix.
I get why you’d mention that; however, I prefer to disable such a feature, whether that’s in Windows, on Xbox, smart TVs, monitors, etc.
Fair recommendation but I’ve been opting for the Studio Driver version as I don’t game on my PC.
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The Hotfix is noted as being Game Ready Driver level though beggars can’t be choosers. And, yes, I was prepared to rollback to 572.83 but the Hotfix has caused me to hold off.
The public speculation is the recent problems are related to Nvidia probably adjusting for...
Anyway… Stepping aside for a moment and taking a forum-focused view...
There have been plenty of complaints about Apple delaying features and signifying them beta. And, sure, I agree it’s disappointing and not very professional, especially when done even somewhat routinely/frequently. Furthermore, I acknowledge Apple’s software is definitely not perfect, including objectively. Nevertheless, Apple's behavior is still much better than what Nvidia has executed the past several months or even year, really.
I think pricing went crazy well before the 50 series, one could argue this debacle started with the 30 series and its shortages - Everyone at every step started jacking up the price.
I don't think they care, if GPU market shrinks, they'll just dedicate more resources to the data center business
True, it is also somewhat surprising how Intel/AMD seem unable to capitalize on it either but then again I think GPU sales for AMD is minuscule compared to CPU sales and DC stuff. So maybe I should put away my surprised pikachu face.
Yeah, AMD is in a unique position to really challenge Nvidia but they've really haven't. As for Intel, I think their GPU business unit, is the walking dead. I'm just waiting for Intel to announce the cancellation of their discrete GPUs.
Why? The Intel GPUs are pretty good! They've definitely had some growing pains but they've improved a lot, and the B580 seems like good value if you can get it at MSRP. Definitely better than the 8GB low-end/mid-tier crud Nvidia/AMD are slinging around those prices. The upcoming Arc Pro GPUs are intriguing for LLMs and similar workflows.
Allegedly Intel is selling them at a loss. Which with how poorly their CPU business has been doing lately they may not be able to sustain.
Yeah they're pretty good, but Intel is hurting, and the CEO already stated that any business segment needs to have a 50% margins, and the GPUs are currently losing money.
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First 5050 comparison has been dropped. Slower than a 4060 at 1080p gaming (though not by much). Not sure if that is a bad thing or a good thing (for the price).
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050 8 GB GPU Tested: Slightly Slower Than The RTX 4060 at 1080P
Inno3D has shared the first performance benchmarks of NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5050 8 GB GPU, which seems to be slower than the RTX 4060.
First 5050 comparison has been dropped. Slower than a 4060 at 1080p gaming (though not by much). Not sure if that is a bad thing or a good thing (for the price).
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5050 8 GB GPU Tested: Slightly Slower Than The RTX 4060 at 1080P
Inno3D has shared the first performance benchmarks of NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 5050 8 GB GPU, which seems to be slower than the RTX 4060.
That's about what the Intel A380 is. Mine is quiet at least (in my rig anyways, YMMV). Uses less power than a 5050 too.
Intel is probably a worthy option. If you aren’t worried about raytracing, machine learning performance, or the latest and greatest game optimizations, the Arc GPUs compete fairly well — if you can get them near (a decent) MSRP), of course.
I don’t have anything less than “70” tier cards, but maybe the following will provide some useful comparisons, nonetheless.
I just can't get behind intel as a viable option. The risk of cancellation is too great. Maybe if they were not in such dire financial straits. Discrete GPUs are not core to their business, and takes several years of market presence. That is, its my opinion that it won't be a profitable business unit for several years as they try to compete ,and catch up to nvidia and AMD.
