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NYPD Chief: Apple Provides Aid to Kidnappers, Robbers, Murderers
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There is a world of difference between strong encryption and a locked physical door, the later can be removed much more easily with a battering ram.. and physical locks can be cut with the proper tools.. no need for a "world master key".
The sarcasm is strong with this one.
Yes, as is the same with all government agendas, the public would not have known that they wanted to mandate it had someone not stepped up and made conversation that brought that out into the open. The government always has an agenda.. and it's usually nothing to do with the case at hand.
The risk of angering their entire customer base tells me that Apple will never do such a thing. This risk is also why I believe that Apple will be victorious in this case.. and they have a lot of big names behind them.
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Apple wanted to keep this quiet, it was the government that wanted this to be made public thinking it would win them a sympathy vote. But, as usual, governments aren't very smart and their deeds regularly come back to bite them on the backside - they don't think things through thoroughly enough before implementation.
They are comparable. They are both based on the attitude that not only does government have a right to access whatever it wants (which is Constitutional, after due process has been applied) but that you are prohibited from using any security mechanism the government can not break (which, so far, has not been upheld in any court.)
If Apple loses this case, then it sets the precedent that each and every security system must be defeatable by the government, and manufacturers of security systems will be required to compromise their systems with back-doors to make certain of this.
This discussion is, as Apple has stated, no less than a court deciding whether or not you have the right to keep any information whatsoever from the government. If Apple loses, then there is precedent to mandate that the government be granted full access to all information, and that every company making a security product be required to design them with government-access back-doors.
This includes physical locks. Sure, police can batter down your home's door. How about cracking a safe with your financial documents? What about if it has a glass relocker (to prevent opening if the lock is damaged) or a self-destruct mechanism (to destroy the documents if the safe is forcibly opened)? Don't you think that the courts would use this decision as precedent to declare these devices illegal? Don't you think safe manufacturers would be required to build government-access back-doors into their products? It's conceptually no different from what the government is trying to force Apple to do.
Precedents don't work that way. Perhaps you should go back to law school because I feel you missed some vital information.
In other news, New York Police Department's counter-terrorism chief John Miller provides aid to racial profiling, excessive force using, civilian murdering NYPD police officers.
This game of rhetoric and unfounded claims is more fun than I expected.
This game of rhetoric and unfounded claims is more fun than I expected.
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"You gotta get iOS 8. It's a gift from God."
Totally sounds like a normal conversation in a prison with over 90% black and hispanic inmates.
Probably one of the guards?
Probably one of the guards?
He'd have been a star in East Germany, unfortunately here he is nothing but yet another pusher for the police state.
They sure want to have it both ways, don't they? We won't abuse our powers, trust us......
I heard the cure for cancer and a plan for world peace are on that phone. WHY DOES APPLE LOVE CANCER AND HATE WORLD PEACE?
BWAHAHAHAHHAHAHA. What a tool! Yet someone selling a gun isn't an accessory to murder. Or USPS isn't an accessory to murder when they delivered anthrax. These guys are so full of ****. They're really splitting hairs and grasping at straws.
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And, I recall hearing that mainly criminals used cell phones (in the early days of cheap(er) hand-held phones), and mainly criminals used pay phones (in the latter days of pay phones; anybody else old enough to remember pay phones?).
EDIT: An article (Google found a bunch) about pay phones being used by criminals:
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/08/11/nyregion/new-jersey-fights-pay-phone-use-by-drug-dealers.html
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Not true at all, it's been proven that iMessages are not safe and can easily be manipulated to be retrieved. Man in the middle attacks specifically.
Yea, one conversation from the thousands that are monitored. The NYPD and FBI have never been known to cherry pick or coerce people into making statements they'd like to use for propaganda campaigns....never happened before.
Why in gods name do we trust these institutions? NYPD alone used Stingrays (which according the the NSA catalog can intercept 5,000+ cell phones at once) more than 1,000 times since 2008 without the legally required warrant.
But I'm sure we can trust these guys to not abuse a method that can be applied to any and all iPhones....
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I'm not doubting it entirely (I've thumbed through many an NSA program document), but didn't that end once iMessage went to end to end (including servers) encryption?
Law enforcement is mainly a tool of the 1% to stop the rest from recovering ill gotten gains. When was the last time they helped recover stuff stolen from you or caught your assailant? Anyone mention organised crime?
Why do you think there are so many fictional programs depicting their brave, brilliant work at bringing justice to the poor and downtrodden?
Apple has seriously pissed them off by not playing along with governments desires to monitor your every thought and action. Why don't they just monitor FacePlant or the dark web equivalent?
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Just a typical rant from someone preparing to move up the food chain.
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You running for office too?
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I guess we are now.
Waits for military style police to drive through door, beat the crap out off oneself and of course, rendition.
You are preaching to the choir sir.
This is precisely why it's good to see Apple, many other tech companies, and many Americans in general standing up and telling the alphabet soup gestapo to **** off.
People who have enjoyed some sort of unrestricted power will ALWAYS try to get more and more power, unrestricted power is more addictive than any OTHER drugs ever existed in human history.