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Yeah - Edge is an older technology we practically didn't bother with here - we went from GPRS to 3G leaving out EDGE (Enhanced GPRS) - O2 here has had to go back and put the tech in place pretty much solely for the iphone, their 3G is far more widespread than EDGE and has been for a while.

Probably true but O2's coverage for 3G ain't that hot either. Look on O2's coverage maps, Voda, 3 and T-Mobile are better.

I've seen two more EDGE enabled cells in Manchester since launch day.
 
I have yet to see any edge coverage in Edinburgh. I live towards the west of the city and I work in the centre. I hope O2 will try to make edge standard and ubiquitous over time.

I am going to Glasgow today so I'll see what its like there ...
 
When you consider that Edge is supposed to require nothing more than a software update at the mast you would have thought it could have been rolled out fairly quickly.
 
When you consider that Edge is supposed to require nothing more than a software update at the mast you would have thought it could have been rolled out fairly quickly.

Exactly. EDGE coverage everywhere there is now GPRS would be very good.

I wouldn't bother with the 3G iPhone then.
 
When you consider that Edge is supposed to require nothing more than a software update at the mast you would have thought it could have been rolled out fairly quickly.

Does anyone think they might upgrade everywhere to EDGE? I get GPRS everywhere...wish it was like that with EDGE!
 
When you consider that Edge is supposed to require nothing more than a software update at the mast you would have thought it could have been rolled out fairly quickly.

Can anyone say "interruption of service"? Sure you can.

Software upgrades are the sort of thing you do one mast at a time - at night - and with a rollback strategy so you don't grok your network.
 
Well I am back from Glasgow, and there is EDGE all over the west end. I also got it on the town centre around Queen Street too. What is the fuss about 3G? EDGE seems fine to me. The latency is a bit high but I think that will be the case with any circuit-switched network.

Now, if only there was more EDGE around Edinburgh :)
 
Software upgrades are the sort of thing you do one mast at a time - at night - and with a rollback strategy so you don't grok your network.

Rubbish, this is hardly bleeding edge. Software upgrades - of this kind - are the sort of thing you do on a test system and then roll out across the network. This is a proven update that could be installed as part of the normal maintenance work whenever a mast is visited.
 
Rubbish, this is hardly bleeding edge. Software upgrades - of this kind - are the sort of thing you do on a test system and then roll out across the network.

They are rolling it out across the network. That is exactly the point. Rolling. Not blasting.

Even in the best of worlds - such as a simple desktop environment - you don't do a global update. Change control. Risk assessment. Anybody suggesting we update the corp desktop environment in one go here would be (quite rightly) fired on the spot.

This is a proven update that could be installed as part of the normal maintenance work whenever a mast is visited.

Which is what I expect O2 is doing.
 
This discussion is all very well but have O2 ever suggested that they plan to introduce EDGE everywhere?

The only reference I ever heard was 30% by launch. I very much doubt that they achieved that judging by my own experiences.

There may be little incentive in extending it beyond 30% if a 3G iPhone is in the pipeline.
 
This discussion is all very well but have O2 ever suggested that they plan to introduce EDGE everywhere?

The only reference I ever heard was 30% by launch. I very much doubt that they achieved that judging by my own experiences.

There may be little incentive in extending it beyond 30% if a 3G iPhone is in the pipeline.

Well I'm going to be pretty pissed off if existing iPhone users are railroaded by the network like that. When 3G comes, where will we be left off? Stuck in the middle, that's where!

That would have to be the stupidest product launch I ever heard of, launching the iPhone just before they switch over to 3G! They should have gotten it right straight away!
 
That would have to be the stupidest product launch I ever heard of, launching the iPhone just before they switch over to 3G! They should have gotten it right straight away!
I agree, but I wouldn't put it past them. After all, EDGE is a step backwards whereas 3G is a step forwards (for O2 at least), and a standard embraced throughout the world of modern mobile telephony.
 
I agree, but I wouldn't put it past them. After all, EDGE is a step backwards whereas 3G is a step forwards (for O2 at least), and a standard embraced throughout the world of modern mobile telephony.

Which is precisely why they should have gotten it right straight away! They may as well have sold me a VHS player, too!

This means that a 1st generation iPhone owner has never, and will never have "good enough" data reception everywhere. That's a joke. That's not what was promised, and I'm extremely pissed off. I'm not the type to upgrade my phone every damn 6 months - a reliable phone should last at least a couple of years, and now the iPhone is being made, quite literally, obsolete, under a year of it's release!
 
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