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nice!!

really, this is something that i'm sure EVERYONE can agree on except maybe shareholders with significant stake in the phone companies.
 
I wont argue that hes perfect or even great, but atleast he isnt a warmonger like the Bush's

Sure he is, hes just not fighting foreign enemies, hes focusing on his domestic enemies here in the states. He launched an invasion from the south. Grew the size of a centrally controlled federal civilian army (homeland security) which seems to be taking over the power of your local police and is pushing people around. Launched his surveillance apparatus (NSA) to learn more about his enemy (us). Signed the indefinite detention of US citizens. Is arming every federal agency to a degree never before seen. Brainwashing kids through common core and so on.

I would argue hes is the WORST possible warmonger there ever was and he has put in place the tools to destroy the United States and its citizens.
 
Obama is not running for office. LOL!

Err... Are you that dense? (Must be given your LOL!)

1) I said election year politics, I didn't say Presidential election year politics. There IS an election this year and, since you don't understand how Bills reach a president's desk, both the House and Senate must each pass it first. All of the House and 1/3 of the Senate is up for election this year. They are in on this too.

2) The President, as leader of his party, wants to do what he can to help his party win as many seats as possible.

Here's how it works since you clearly don't understand politics:

Dem Senate passes a Cell Phone Unlock bill. Check.

House passes a Cell Unlock bill. Check.

President pocket vetos Cell Unlock bill.

What happens next...

GOP is all over the news programs "we passed a bipartisan bill and the President sat on it." GOP then continues on to nationalize the mid-term elections.

You see in U.S. politics the "in" party -- that would be the Dems right now -- want to localize elections while the "out" party -- that would be the Reps right now -- want to nationalize the elections, make it about the (whoever is) President and his "failed" policies.

So yes, Obama is part of the mix, along with the House and Senate who passed the Bill for the President to sign.

Instead Obama signs Bill with lots of hoopla and he is a hero! Win for every D. Nothing for Rs.

Gd it's scary how uneducated some people are but like to LOL! at other posts because they think they are the smartest in the room.
 
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Can't understand why this was ever illegal... Land of the free my arse

It always was legal... we didn't need a law to tell us we could do it.

I'd like to see the millions locked up for jailbreaking their phones.
Hollywood pushes laws? HAHA

Do you have a source for that?

I know, RIGHT!

Hollywood is SUCH a non-political arena. Their movies and public stances are merely 100% centrist and plain-as-oatmeal vapid. Hollywood NEVER gets involved with laws and politics or anything like that!

WOAH! NELLY! I gotta rein in the sarcasm.
 
Its funny how the topic of unlocked cell phones conjures up the name Osama bin Laden, when in fact Seal Team 6 called him on his cell phone to verify if he was OBL or not, right before they smashed thru his bedroom door and shot him.

ring ring....

OBL, "Hedo?"

ST6, "Hello sir. We are with the Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes, and we believe you have just won a lifetime annuity worth in upwards of 15 million. May we please first verify that we have the correct person on this call? Is your name indeed Osama Bin Laden?"

OBL, "Why yes! Yes it is! Let me tell you, you have made me so vedy happ-"

ST6 smashes thru the door, and pumps 15 shots into Osama.

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
 
This country was built on the principles of freedom. It was those principles that allowed us to prosper, and enjoy the fruits of that prosperity today, and yet we are squandering those freedoms that we fought for more and more every day. Obama, and most of congress are NOT pro-freedom. I use the pieces of legislation they pass as evidence, including the massive FORCED redistribution of wealth that is Obamacare as proof. They do not believe in the voluntary exchange of value in a FREE market. They believe in regulation. They believe in legislation. They believe. In. FORCE. The very OPPOSITE of freedom. Therefore, these people ARE un-American. That is the simple fact. Whether you like it or not these statements are nothing short of true. They do NOT believe in freedom.

So no, it's not better than the alternative of doing nothing, and both of those options are far worse than simply embracing the freedom that built this country.

Well said. Free healthcare sounds nice up front. It will completely change this nation and we will end up looking back to "the good old days" before this act if it doesn't get shutdown soon. We have been prosperous in a free market, it needs to stay that way.
 
I know, RIGHT!

Hollywood is SUCH a non-political arena. Their movies and public stances are merely 100% centrist and plain-as-oatmeal vapid. Hollywood NEVER gets involved with laws and politics or anything like that!

WOAH! NELLY! I gotta rein in the sarcasm.

My point is how would this specific law help Hollywood?

And for the record, I don't particularly support anybody in the government, but you can't blame one person for the crimes of two over-powered parties.
 
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I wont argue that hes perfect or even great, but atleast he isnt a warmonger like the Bush's

Oh no - he just destroyed Libya, murdered Gaddafi and failed at doing the same to Syria due to worldwide opposition to his plans.

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I wont argue that hes perfect or even great, but atleast he isnt a warmonger like the Bush's

Typical Canadian soft-leftism. Grow some.


I USED TO ENJOY MACRUMORS. SINCE THIS BEATS CRAP STARTED IT HAS BECOME A PAIN I'M TRYING TO WEAN MYSELF OFF OF. ITS NO LONGER FOR APPLE FANS - JUST FOR MEDIOCRE POP CULTURISTS. IT HAS BECOME A TABLOID.
 
Well said. Free healthcare sounds nice up front. It will completely change this nation and we will end up looking back to "the good old days" before this act if it doesn't get shutdown soon. We have been prosperous in a free market, it needs to stay that way.

No one claimed it free, but what do you call prosperous? Healthcare has been completely messed up for decades at this point, and it didn't even resemble a free market. Insurance became a prerequisite for almost any kind of care beyond a basic doctor's visit. Most of the time you cannot even walk into a facility for tests or blood work of any kind and get a breakdown of costs up front, with or without insurance. Cancer survivors and others with any kind of pre-existing condition were extremely limited on coverage options, even at increased premium levels, and much of the time it was at least several pages of reading to see why something was denied, assuming they even included a fully detailed statement in a cost breakdown. Your results may have been better if your employer had excellent plan options. That isn't to say that I like the way they have tried to fix it. I just dislike people who pretend it was fine.
 
From History.com:

"The DMCA bill was heavily supported by the content industries—Hollywood, the music business and book publishers—during its legislative journey through the U.S. Senate and House of Representatives."

http://www.history.com/this-day-in-...the-digital-millennium-copyright-act-into-law

And what does this have to do with cell phone unlocking?

EDIT: Nevermind, I see it is part of the bill. However, the ban came from the expiration of an exception in the bill.
 
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Don’t be so ridiculous, If you sign up to a contract then abide by it!
Within that 12-24 month period if they say you’re locked you’re locked. You’re one of those people who says I bought those CDs I can do what I like woth them.
No. You may have bought the plastic but you licensed the data on it.
That kind of attitude makes me sick.

The government should force license agreements/contracts to be in plain english and fair. After that you should be hammered if you break them.

Unlocking was never a way of getting out of contracts, you still have to abide to it.

I would agree with the licensing part if it weren't for the fact that telecoms often have extremely little to do with the data that is on the phone (you license iOS from Apple, Android from Google), the only exception here is 3rd party software that comes preinstalled that I think most people would have no problem getting rid of if they could.

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I USED TO ENJOY MACRUMORS. SINCE THIS BEATS CRAP STARTED IT HAS BECOME A PAIN I'M TRYING TO WEAN MYSELF OFF OF. ITS NO LONGER FOR APPLE FANS - JUST FOR MEDIOCRE POP CULTURISTS. IT HAS BECOME A TABLOID.

Don't kid yourself, PRSI was created long before Beats was acquired. What you are implying is nothing more than a red herring.

If you want to stop coming here, do just that. Nobody here is stopping you.
 
Err... Are you that dense? (Must be given your LOL!)

1) I said election year politics, I didn't say Presidential election year politics. There IS an election this year and, since you don't understand how Bills reach a president's desk, both the House and Senate must each pass it first. All of the House and 1/3 of the Senate is up for election this year. They are in on this too.

2) The President, as leader of his party, wants to do what he can to help his party win as many seats as possible.

Here's how it works since you clearly don't understand politics:

Dem Senate passes a Cell Phone Unlock bill. Check.

House passes a Cell Unlock bill. Check.

President pocket vetos Cell Unlock bill.

What happens next...

GOP is all over the news programs "we passed a bipartisan bill and the President sat on it." GOP then continues on to nationalize the mid-term elections.

You see in U.S. politics the "in" party -- that would be the Dems right now -- want to localize elections while the "out" party -- that would be the Reps right now -- want to nationalize the elections, make it about the (whoever is) President and his "failed" policies.

So yes, Obama is part of the mix, along with the House and Senate who passed the Bill for the President to sign.

Instead Obama signs Bill with lots of hoopla and he is a hero! Win for every D. Nothing for Rs.

Gd it's scary how uneducated some people are but like to LOL! at other posts because they think they are the smartest in the room.

This bill isn't going to be brought up during the election campaign, because aside from a few nerds on iPhone and Android forums, no one cars about cell phone unlocking.

"You can now unlock your cell phone!" is not going to resonate with most voters. I'd be surprised if half of registered voters even know what cell phone unlocking means.
 
Note: Due to the political nature of the skin color of the twice-elected leader of the US, all of his successes are underreported and soon forgotten, his failures are unforgivably worse than other leaders', right-wing hysterical lies go unchecked by even mainstream "journalists" under the guise of "balance," and problems created before he took office undergo time travel to become his fault, while credit for his solutions goes mysteriously to his opponents, even though they will turn against their own principles and past ideas simply because a moderate president agrees with them and they'd rather make sure that no good ideas are allowed to happen in the US until the proper skin color has returned to power (which they manage to convince themselves on the surface is no part of their thinking). Therefore, this otherwise purely fact-based and non-controversial (unless you believe governments should answer to their corporate masters) discussion thread is located in our Politics, Religion, Social Issues forum.

Exactly.

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Sigh, anything that involves Obama is controversial.
 
... and ... Verizon still wont unlock your iphone 4S.

lol

Actually, can this be used to request carriers to unlock phones that have completed contractual obligations? I had an Verizon iphone 4S that was out of of obligation as I upgraded to 5S; and I ask Verizon to unlock earlier this year, and they said no.

Wonder if it is easier to do it now.
 
Sure he is, hes just not fighting foreign enemies, hes focusing on his domestic enemies here in the states. He launched an invasion from the south. Grew the size of a centrally controlled federal civilian army (homeland security) which seems to be taking over the power of your local police and is pushing people around. Launched his surveillance apparatus (NSA) to learn more about his enemy (us). Signed the indefinite detention of US citizens. Is arming every federal agency to a degree never before seen. Brainwashing kids through common core and so on.

I would argue hes is the WORST possible warmonger there ever was and he has put in place the tools to destroy the United States and its citizens.

You should get out of the right wing media bubble. There are legitimate reasons to be critical of this president, but you won't hear any of them on right wing media, because they largely approve of those activities.

The stuff they rant on and on about is dishonest, disingenuous, made up or otherwise incongruent with truth and reality.

President Obama is a flawed president, but a huge improvement over the deeply fraudulent and criminal, never truly elected cheney/bush regime.
 
note: Due to the political nature of the skin color of the twice-elected leader of the us, all of his successes are underreported and soon forgotten, his failures are unforgivably worse than other leaders', right-wing hysterical lies go unchecked by even mainstream "journalists" under the guise of "balance," and problems created before he took office undergo time travel to become his fault, while credit for his solutions goes mysteriously to his opponents, even though they will turn against their own principles and past ideas simply because a moderate president agrees with them and they'd rather make sure that no good ideas are allowed to happen in the us until the proper skin color has returned to power (which they manage to convince themselves on the surface is no part of their thinking). Therefore, this otherwise purely fact-based and non-controversial (unless you believe governments should answer to their corporate masters) discussion thread is located in our politics, religion, social issues forum.

HE'S THE MOST RADICAL LEFTIST PRESIDENT EVER!!!! KENYAN MUSLIM MARXIST SOCIALIST TERRORIST!!!!!

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I am with all the smart ones here. He hasnt done anything. And even here all he did was sign a piece of paper. Its not like he did anything special. Anyone could have killed OBL and signed healthcare into law. Anyone. Why does he get credit? Its not like he was even born here. Or that he went to college. My buddy Donny Trump has the proof but the lamestream media will not show it. I know this guy who knows a guy who said he has seen Obama sneak into the Hawaii offices to plant his fake birth certificate.
I am with all of you - he is an embarassment. Its heroes like us that make this world a better place. :rolleyes:

You had me up until the Palin "lamestream" reference. :cool: I thought you were my mom for a second.
 
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