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October 4th Media Event to Be Held at Apple's Headquarters?

It's at Apple's Town Hall to commemorate the fact that the iPod was launched there 10 years ago.

Yeah, the iPod, the product that made Apple what it is today...
 
lukefinch said:
Here's a good one i found with a quick Google.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

Some of the best quotes...



How wrong they were, this is exactly what the world needed. Where's the Newton now?



This gimmick revolutionised the music industry, if only they could have seen then how revolutionary this was going to be.
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It's easy to call them out now, 10 years later.

Find me some non-fanboys, since fanboys would praise whatever the company would do, and I'm not just talking about Apple fanboys, who back then were saying that it would revolutionize the music industry.

That's interesting.

Finding people who were wrong, not so much. The history is filled with products that went wrong and people who made wrong predictions.

Find those who saw what others didn't.
 
AaronEdwards said:
It's easy to call them out now, 10 years later.

Find me some non-fanboys, since fanboys would praise whatever the company would do, and I'm not just talking about Apple fanboys, who back then were saying that it would revolutionize the music industry.

That's interesting.

Finding people who were wrong, not so much. The history is filled with products that went wrong and people who made wrong predictions.

Find those who saw what others didn't.
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Umm...Apple?
 
Spoiler Alert!!!

Surprise!!!!!! The Brand New iPod Touch!!!!!

WTF!!!!!!!!! No new iPhone???

Of course not... But, we will give you a gift card to the App Store!
 
lunarworks said:
It could be because they can maintain tighter security on their home turf.

Unexpected announcement?
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Indeed they might not want pictures of the inside leaking out the night before like they always do.

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lilo777 said:
Sure they are. That's why they are always the last ones when it comes to adoption of the latest wireless standards (remember 3G? and now 4G).




You can always disable LTE. But when it's there and you need speed, you can use it. It's that simple.
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So you want them to make an LTE phone and then advertise the battery life with LTE turned off? I agree that is what almost every Android vendor would do (and does do), but most of us expect Apple to be upfront. Until Apple can sell a phone with reasonable battery life and LTE, I suspect they won't.

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lukefinch said:
Here's a good one i found with a quick Google.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

Some of the best quotes...



How wrong they were, this is exactly what the world needed. Where's the Newton now?



This gimmick revolutionised the music industry, if only they could have seen then how revolutionary this was going to be.
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People made the same short-sighted comments when the iPad was announced. While only time will tell if it has a run like the iPod, there is no denying how very wrong all the naysayers were in early 2010.
 
wovel said:
Indeed they might not want pictures of the inside leaking out the night before like they always do.

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So you want them to make an LTE phone and then advertise the battery life with LTE turned off? I agree that is what almost every Android vendor would do (and does do), but most of us expect Apple to be upfront. Until Apple can sell a phone with reasonable battery life and LTE, I suspect they won't.
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Who cares about battery life any more, u have to charge the iphone every night as it is so who cares if they add LTE, i say bring it on
 
AaronEdwards said:
It's easy to call them out now, 10 years later.

Find me some non-fanboys, since fanboys would praise whatever the company would do, and I'm not just talking about Apple fanboys, who back then were saying that it would revolutionize the music industry.

That's interesting.

Finding people who were wrong, not so much. The history is filled with products that went wrong and people who made wrong predictions.

Find those who saw what others didn't.
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I bet you could find some fanboys worshiping the first Apple TV at launch. Even now it is a nitch product.

If you want something more recent go look at the people who praised ping at launch.

As for the first iPod in 2001. I will say that was a rather crappy over priced product at the time. It only worked on Apple computers. The iPod really took off when it would work on both Windows and OSX. Before then it really was not that nice of a product. Hell the first iPod was not exactly that revolutionany. The biggest changed was Apple had a decent media player syncing software that went with it. The iPod was not the first hard drive based MP3 player. It was the iTunes part that made it good. Not the MP3 player part.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
I bet you could find some fanboys worshiping the first Apple TV at launch. Even now it is a nitch product.

If you want something more recent go look at the people who praised ping at launch.

As for the first iPod in 2001. I will say that was a rather crappy over priced product at the time. It only worked on Apple computers. The iPod really took off when it would work on both Windows and OSX. Before then it really was not that nice of a product. Hell the first iPod was not exactly that revolutionany. The biggest changed was Apple had a decent media player syncing software that went with it. The iPod was not the first hard drive based MP3 player. It was the iTunes part that made it good. Not the MP3 player part.
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That is true.

Even though I can't stand iTunes sometimes since it doesn't mix well with Windows (like oil & vinegar) and crashes alot, iTunes was the bigger gamechanger. It gave people a LEGAL way to download music online in a time of piracy (p2p) like Napster and Kazaa as well as attach people into the iDevice ecosystem. The first iPod was just an overpriced mp3 player with 5-10GB on there. Then iPods started to get popular once iTunes hit Windows and then the introduction of the more affordable and colorful iPod minis.

As for this announcement, I think it should work well for Tim Cook. Not too showy. Keep it quieter and intimate.
 
Rodimus Prime said:
I bet you could find some fanboys worshiping the first Apple TV at launch. Even now it is a nitch product.

If you want something more recent go look at the people who praised ping at launch.

As for the first iPod in 2001. I will say that was a rather crappy over priced product at the time. It only worked on Apple computers. The iPod really took off when it would work on both Windows and OSX. Before then it really was not that nice of a product. Hell the first iPod was not exactly that revolutionany. The biggest changed was Apple had a decent media player syncing software that went with it. The iPod was not the first hard drive based MP3 player. It was the iTunes part that made it good. Not the MP3 player part.
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But the iPod was the first POCKETABLE MP3 player, had the best UI at the time, and synced over Firewire.

OTOH, Apple has had a few real flops, as you say. The original Apple TV might qualify under that category, but it's nowhere near the epic fails that the Pippin and the iPod HiFi were (I can still remember how disappointed I was after the HiFi "Event").
 
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"If you are the CEO of the largest $$ company in the world you need to be ready to present anywhere"

One word: ballmer.
 
Apple TV is a great product nitch product or not. I use it far more than my Blu-ray players or my Cable boxes. DVR? What DVR? Now that you can watch anything you have purchased for free, even if you don't have your server on, it is even better.

Rodimus Prime said:
I bet you could find some fanboys worshiping the first Apple TV at launch. Even now it is a nitch product.

If you want something more recent go look at the people who praised ping at launch.

As for the first iPod in 2001. I will say that was a rather crappy over priced product at the time. It only worked on Apple computers. The iPod really took off when it would work on both Windows and OSX. Before then it really was not that nice of a product. Hell the first iPod was not exactly that revolutionany. The biggest changed was Apple had a decent media player syncing software that went with it. The iPod was not the first hard drive based MP3 player. It was the iTunes part that made it good. Not the MP3 player part.
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All this conspiracy talk makes me sick. Mr. Jobs will not be at the product announcement because he is currently spending 14 hours per day at JPL helping them dissect the alien spaceship they have found. Due to his time designing the iPhone, he has more experience dealing with technology from Vega III than any other human.
 
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bushido said:
wovel said:
Indeed they might not want pictures of the inside leaking out the night before like they always do.

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So you want them to make an LTE phone and then advertise the battery life with LTE turned off? I agree that is what almost every Android vendor would do (and does do), but most of us expect Apple to be upfront. Until Apple can sell a phone with reasonable battery life and LTE, I suspect they won't.
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Who cares about battery life any more, u have to charge the iphone every night as it is so who cares if they add LTE, i say bring it on
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So wrong. You do not need to charge the iPhone every night. With light use and just locking the phone when I go to bed, I easily get 3 full days of use on one full charge. Show me an android phone that does that. I had a droid incredible and an Evo at one point. Both phones had to be recharged every 6-7 hours under light use. With 4G on with the Evo it was even less.
 
JDee said:
You're all contemplating that Steve Jobs is intensely sick and can only move a few inches.

Steve Jobs resigned due to health reasons - since we've heard that news, have you seen Steve Jobs? How do you know how sick he is?
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We're also all contemplating that a fantastic new world changing iPhone is coming too, but in fact we've seen nothing. We're all left to speculate and it goes from "he's probably only got a few weeks to live" to "he'll be back, stronger than ever, you just wait!"

All this secrecy (on all fronts) is not doing Apple any favors.
 
Sedrick said:
All this secrecy (on all fronts) is not doing Apple any favors.
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Are you kidding me? Money could't buy the kind of publicity/hype that the secrecy is generating. Apple could introduce a rebranded iPhone 3GS and millions would line up to buy it. Sheer marketing genius (of course, what that says about us Apple consumers is quite another story).
 
This means that Apple can schedule media events at their leisure rather than waiting on availability of the Moscone center or other public centers. It well be neat once Apple's new headquarters are complete. ;)
 
MacinDoc said:
Umm...Apple?
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People at Apple who actually thought it would revolutionize the music industry? Like who? Remember Steve Jobs' words about the market share he had hoped the iPhone would get.

Now, the market department of any company will say that their product will revolutionize everything.
But I highly doubt that people at Apple ever imagined that the iPod would end up being the success it was.
 
MacinDoc said:
But the iPod was the first POCKETABLE MP3 player, had the best UI at the time, and synced over Firewire.

OTOH, Apple has had a few real flops, as you say. The original Apple TV might qualify under that category, but it's nowhere near the epic fails that the Pippin and the iPod HiFi were (I can still remember how disappointed I was after the HiFi "Event").
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it was not the first pocket able MP3 player. Nor was it the first hard drive MP3 player. Those had been out for some time before hand. It was the software/hardware side that worked.

As for the HiFi Apple made that an even bigger flop because it does not work with the later iPod or iPhone because Apple killed all firewire support.
 
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MartiNZ said:
Which, though we'd have thought it impossible, seems to be the route they are taking post-Steve. If only it were easier to not care, the blind wait wouldn't be so annoying.
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All this "post-Steve" stuff" He's stepped down barely a month ago, nothing at Apple has changed, they have always been secretive, during-post-during-&-post-Steve. and so on-and -so forth with all the post-Steve crap.
 
And about Steve Jobs appearing at the launch, I predict that he won't.

Reports and photos show that he is seriously ill.
And no, he's not spending time at the office. Try to find any reports about him working after becoming the chairman of the Apple board.

If he would appear, then it would be negative for the launch. Stories that should be about the new phone(s) would instead be about his deteriorating health.
That's not good for the launch, nor for Apple. You don't want negative news at the launch of your most important product.


This is a prediction I'm making before the fact.
 
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