MRU
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I have no trouble with spaces and office 2011.
Office 2011 Likes/Dislikes
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I have no trouble with spaces and office 2011.
MRU
macrumors Penryn
You can import your .pst file without issue. For vast majority this is all they need
What he means is You can not copy it back and forth between mac & PC as you could between PC & PC. This is down to OS system differences - not specifically Outlook on Mac restriction.
I understand.
This "once go mac, you can't go back" setup is offensive to my sensibility.
Detektiv-Pinky
macrumors 6502a
Hhm, I opened Excel on Space1 and have Safari running on Space2.
When I want to
-tab back from Safari to Excel it sometimes works, sometimes it does not. Excel becomes active but does not switch back to Space1...
millertime021
macrumors 6502a
Hhm, I opened Excel on Space1 and have Safari running on Space2.
When I want to
This could be key. In chemistry lab I stream Thursday night College Football in one space and quickly tab over to a different space where my work is at if the teacher walks by.
MisterMe
macrumors G4
Nonsense. Other developers manage to produce file formats that can be shared across platforms and between applications. Miracle of miracles, many developers manage to share files between the Mac and Windows versions of their applications. The notion that Microsoft .pst archives cannot be shared across platforms due to differences between those platforms does not pass the Laugh Test.
jacg
macrumors 6502a
Gutted to find there is no Formatting Palette any more. So now every window has to have its own multicoloured ribbon attached to the top 15% of the window???!! I often have a whole bunch of spreadsheets open.
Given that I spend my whole time tweaking things in the Formatting Palette, I can't see how I can get on with Office 2011 at all now.
I guess I could try to build an extended toolbox to sit on the side of the screen with the things I need, but I doubt I'll be able to adjust things the way you can in 2004.
AAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh. I so wanted rid of 2004. Why did nobody warn me. I specifically asked this question, Naydne!!!!!!!!!!
Given that I spend my whole time tweaking things in the Formatting Palette, I can't see how I can get on with Office 2011 at all now.
I guess I could try to build an extended toolbox to sit on the side of the screen with the things I need, but I doubt I'll be able to adjust things the way you can in 2004.
AAAAAAAAAAAArrrrrrrrrrrrrrghhhhhhhhhhhh. I so wanted rid of 2004. Why did nobody warn me. I specifically asked this question, Naydne!!!!!!!!!!
jacg
macrumors 6502a
Scrolling a large spreadsheet in Excel 2011 is definitely less smooth than in 2004. Why?
Also, Excel 2011 doesn't seem to support the background window scrolling feature of OS X, which is really useful.
Also, why does it take the print dialogue so long to come up.
I read it was rebuilt from the ground up. How come when you dig around you get to 'features' that are unchanged since 2004 (and before) and just as flawed? I tried to edit some links in a complicated spreadsheet and I still can't see the entire path (unfortunately I set up a bunch of sheets with the same name, in a folder hierarchy, so I now can't tell which link is which). I spoke to someone at MS in 2005 and they said that this was a bug and it had been noted.
Lipstick. On. A. Pig.
Also, Excel 2011 doesn't seem to support the background window scrolling feature of OS X, which is really useful.
Also, why does it take the print dialogue so long to come up.
I read it was rebuilt from the ground up. How come when you dig around you get to 'features' that are unchanged since 2004 (and before) and just as flawed? I tried to edit some links in a complicated spreadsheet and I still can't see the entire path (unfortunately I set up a bunch of sheets with the same name, in a folder hierarchy, so I now can't tell which link is which). I spoke to someone at MS in 2005 and they said that this was a bug and it had been noted.
Lipstick. On. A. Pig.
MooneyFlyer
macrumors 65816
ok, I spent some no-so-quality time with PowerPoint last night. Perhaps this is just my lack of searching... however, can someone tell me how to turn off the presenter tools in the second window when in presentation mode? If they have not fixed this I am going to lose my mind. I'm hoping that I am just missing something...
You can hide the Ribbon, and unlike the Windows version, the full menus are still there.
I have this issue with Word:
Lets say I have a heading, and I want it underlined across the whole page, the underline for the word and the ____ score are on different heights. Maybe this is a bad way to do this (way I've always done it without problems).
Is this a bug?
Lets say I have a heading, and I want it underlined across the whole page, the underline for the word and the ____ score are on different heights. Maybe this is a bad way to do this (way I've always done it without problems).
Is this a bug?
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jacg
macrumors 6502a
Sure, I know that. You can even turn it off completely, but then you're left with just the menus. Mind you, thank goodness for menus - the Windows version is bonkers.
Now you can only access one section of controls at a time and you have to either sacrifice a bunch of vertical space on every window or click it open and shut every time. The integrated formula bar is neat but, again, now every window has one. More clutter, less focus on the content.
I preferred it when the settings were easily accessible in the inspector-like formatting palette which I kept to one side of the screen. I'd always have the main sections clicked open. My windows contained my content. Call me old fashioned. I wonder if you can enable the Formatting Palette somehow - the 2008 interface still seems to be there in the form of the scrapbook, dictionary, etc.
jacg
macrumors 6502a
Sorry to go on about this but I just tried viewing two word documents side by side. The ribbon just gets cut off - there's no way to scroll along or access the obscured items. If I need access to all the settings that used to be in the formatting palette I have to make the windows wider.
Am I using my computer wrong or something? A lot of people seem to think the ribbon is great (including MS I assume). I just don't get how this is a way forward.
Ultimately Pages and Textedit will continue to serve me well and I will only generate content in Word when I really have to.
Am I using my computer wrong or something? A lot of people seem to think the ribbon is great (including MS I assume). I just don't get how this is a way forward.
Ultimately Pages and Textedit will continue to serve me well and I will only generate content in Word when I really have to.
jacg
macrumors 6502a
Speed comparisons: Excel 2004 v 2011
I just did some comparisons on the same spreadsheet on my Intel MBP (4GB RAM).
Scrolling is much smoother in 2004. It is very jerky in 2011 - I'd say the refresh rate is maybe half or a third (hard to say for sure). If you have inertial scrolling on, prepare to get especially frustrated.
I timed how long it took to move the selected cell blue outline about 240 columns along a particularly complex spreadsheet by pressing and holding the right cursor key.
2004 took about 12 seconds.
2011 took about 52 seconds.
Is this a feature or just a measure of how clunky the interface has become? I don't think there is a cap on the key repeat speed because if you try pressing the key really quickly, 2011 is just as slow to move. 2004 is running in Rosetta and it is over four times quicker.
I'm beginning to wonder if they really did "rebuild this app from the ground up" because you'd think UI speed would be top of their list of things to get right.
I just did some comparisons on the same spreadsheet on my Intel MBP (4GB RAM).
Scrolling is much smoother in 2004. It is very jerky in 2011 - I'd say the refresh rate is maybe half or a third (hard to say for sure). If you have inertial scrolling on, prepare to get especially frustrated.
I timed how long it took to move the selected cell blue outline about 240 columns along a particularly complex spreadsheet by pressing and holding the right cursor key.
2004 took about 12 seconds.
2011 took about 52 seconds.
Is this a feature or just a measure of how clunky the interface has become? I don't think there is a cap on the key repeat speed because if you try pressing the key really quickly, 2011 is just as slow to move. 2004 is running in Rosetta and it is over four times quicker.
I'm beginning to wonder if they really did "rebuild this app from the ground up" because you'd think UI speed would be top of their list of things to get right.
natekettles
macrumors member
Very happy
So far, I'm very happy with Office 2011. I like the ribbon interface. AND, its waaaaay faster than Office 2008. I would have liked to see the toolbox totally done away with (since I use citations quite a lot and would have liked it incorporated into the ribbon), but otherwise its great.
P.S. Try the new "reading/writing mode" where can view word fullscreen with great wooden and other backgrounds - really nice
So far, I'm very happy with Office 2011. I like the ribbon interface. AND, its waaaaay faster than Office 2008. I would have liked to see the toolbox totally done away with (since I use citations quite a lot and would have liked it incorporated into the ribbon), but otherwise its great.
P.S. Try the new "reading/writing mode" where can view word fullscreen with great wooden and other backgrounds - really nice
natekettles
macrumors member
Excel 2011
Has anyone noticed that the new Excel is quite slow?
When you try resize the window is lags a bit (compared to other apps), and when you quit it, it takes a while to be show thats it quit (as seen from dock).
What could be the reason for this??
P.s. What I am saying is not the application is slow, it seems to have improved, but that the above functions are slow.
Has anyone noticed that the new Excel is quite slow?
When you try resize the window is lags a bit (compared to other apps), and when you quit it, it takes a while to be show thats it quit (as seen from dock).
What could be the reason for this??
P.s. What I am saying is not the application is slow, it seems to have improved, but that the above functions are slow.
MacKeeper-fan
macrumors member
Office for Mac Isnt an Improvement. The Mac suite now includes the Ribbon, a horizontal toolbar thats built into Office for Windows. What I dont get is this: Last time I checked, computer screens were all wider than they are tall. The last thing youd want to do is to eat up that limited vertical screen space with interface clutter like the Ribbon. Dont we really want those controls off to the side, as with the Formatting Palette in the previous Mac Office?
Macros are back, which is great. Finally, I thought, I can automate the series of search-and-replace operations that are necessary to prepare my weekly column for use in plain-text e-mail (turning curly quotes into straight ones, for example).
But the new Find/Replace panel in Word is broken, too. You cant tab from the Find box to the Replace box you have to click the mouse in each box. And even then, the Macro recorder simply doesnt record search/replace operations. (Microsoft taught me about a workaround: you can use the Advanced Search box, if you know how to find it. But you wont find that in the online Help.)
My greatest disappointment, though, was Outlook. The other reviewers rave about its speed; my copy freezes whenever its syncing (sending or receiving e-mail). It wont respond until the syncing is complete.
Worse, Microsoft gutted this program. So many of the great tools and commands I used in Entourage, its predecessor, have simply been removed.
The missing commands include Resend (lets you resend a sent message to a new person, for example); Edit Message (great if theres a hideous background or font that makes the message unreadable); Cleanup Text (fixes those multi-forwarded messages with a million indented >>> forwarding brackets, or gets rid of ugly line breaks); Redirect (lets you forward a message to the proper party, with the original sender still in the From box); and the option to use the same keyboard shortcuts for editing text that youve set up in Word.
There are bugs aplenty, too. If you use the Send as Attachment command from Word, for example, you wind up with an outgoing message in Outlook but without your signature in place. You have to add that manually. To make matters more annoying, the cursor doesnt plop itself in the To box, so you can address it. You have to click there.
Outlooks AutoComplete is broken, too. My editor was baffled as to why he didnt get the column I e-mailed him several times last week. Later, we discovered that when I began typing his name, AutoComplete proposed an obscure, secondary Gmail address for himeven though, in Outlooks address book, his correct e-mail address is clearly marked as the primary address.
In Word, as before, theres a dialog box where you can change the keystrokes for features you use a lot. In Word 2011, however, the new assignments sometimes dont take. The feature is simply broken.
Microsoft says that its aware of all the bugs Ive listed here, and intends to fix them early next year. (Most of the missing mail commands, however, will remain missing.)
O.K., what? You *knew* about these bugs, but youre selling this software anyway?
Macros are back, which is great. Finally, I thought, I can automate the series of search-and-replace operations that are necessary to prepare my weekly column for use in plain-text e-mail (turning curly quotes into straight ones, for example).
But the new Find/Replace panel in Word is broken, too. You cant tab from the Find box to the Replace box you have to click the mouse in each box. And even then, the Macro recorder simply doesnt record search/replace operations. (Microsoft taught me about a workaround: you can use the Advanced Search box, if you know how to find it. But you wont find that in the online Help.)
My greatest disappointment, though, was Outlook. The other reviewers rave about its speed; my copy freezes whenever its syncing (sending or receiving e-mail). It wont respond until the syncing is complete.
Worse, Microsoft gutted this program. So many of the great tools and commands I used in Entourage, its predecessor, have simply been removed.
The missing commands include Resend (lets you resend a sent message to a new person, for example); Edit Message (great if theres a hideous background or font that makes the message unreadable); Cleanup Text (fixes those multi-forwarded messages with a million indented >>> forwarding brackets, or gets rid of ugly line breaks); Redirect (lets you forward a message to the proper party, with the original sender still in the From box); and the option to use the same keyboard shortcuts for editing text that youve set up in Word.
There are bugs aplenty, too. If you use the Send as Attachment command from Word, for example, you wind up with an outgoing message in Outlook but without your signature in place. You have to add that manually. To make matters more annoying, the cursor doesnt plop itself in the To box, so you can address it. You have to click there.
Outlooks AutoComplete is broken, too. My editor was baffled as to why he didnt get the column I e-mailed him several times last week. Later, we discovered that when I began typing his name, AutoComplete proposed an obscure, secondary Gmail address for himeven though, in Outlooks address book, his correct e-mail address is clearly marked as the primary address.
In Word, as before, theres a dialog box where you can change the keystrokes for features you use a lot. In Word 2011, however, the new assignments sometimes dont take. The feature is simply broken.
Microsoft says that its aware of all the bugs Ive listed here, and intends to fix them early next year. (Most of the missing mail commands, however, will remain missing.)
O.K., what? You *knew* about these bugs, but youre selling this software anyway?
I agree with everything you said here. The fact this software was released is a joke. At this point, I am going to make a serious commitment to attempt to use the Mail app.
Inconsequential
macrumors 68000
Excel performance sucks hard!
They need to sort it out ASAP.
They need to sort it out ASAP.
MooneyFlyer
macrumors 65816
Excel issue
One issue that I'm seeing that I'd like others to confirm.
In Mac 2008, I swear that I could have 2 workbooks open side by side with one in focus and the other visible (but not the active screen). In either I could scroll the window without having to click the window into focus.
Now, it seems anyway, I have to click each window into focus which doesn't sound like much but it is a pain.
What's more interesting is that when I'm in this window typing this comment I can background scroll the top-most excel sheet but none of the others. And, when I refocus on excel the original problem I described takes over.
Same for others?
thx
One issue that I'm seeing that I'd like others to confirm.
In Mac 2008, I swear that I could have 2 workbooks open side by side with one in focus and the other visible (but not the active screen). In either I could scroll the window without having to click the window into focus.
Now, it seems anyway, I have to click each window into focus which doesn't sound like much but it is a pain.
What's more interesting is that when I'm in this window typing this comment I can background scroll the top-most excel sheet but none of the others. And, when I refocus on excel the original problem I described takes over.
Same for others?
thx
I haven't used 2008 because I need VBA support, but in both 2004 and 2011 you to click on the window to scroll.
I plan on installing office 2011 in a couple weeks. Although I haven't used it yet, I have a feeling that the resend option is not in the inbox view, but when you open an individual message, there might be an advanced option to resend (Outlook 2007 has it this way).