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Official - The new Xbox 360 - 250GB, wifi-N, $299, Shipping NOW!

With the new ESPN deal announced and this new hardware I might be selling my Mac mini to get one of these. If Hulu comes to Xbox it'll be a sure thing.

Does anyone know if MLB games are included in the ESPN deal?
 
It's kind of an ugly design. It screams of somebody trying too hard to make it look pretty. And seriously they're just now including built in wifi?
 
ltldrummerboy said:
Does anyone know if MLB games are included in the ESPN deal?
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They do mention MLB games with this, but how many is unclear as of right now. I would assume, if it is something that you can watch right now on espn3.com then it will be available on this service. They have been a little light on the details so far, so who knows really. But yes, MLB is listed so it will be there in SOME form.

http://www.xbox.com/en-US/kinect/entertainment.htm
 
Ugly. Looks like one of those $30 budget PC gamers cases.

On a side note, the "me too" generation rages on. Microsoft went glossy black, touch sensitive buttons and internal hard drive (albeit proprietary) basically copying Sorny's PS3 phat. Not to mention "Kinetic Sports" and "Kinectimals" riping shamelessly from Wii SPorts and Eye-Pet.

Next will be the "PS" from Sony. Rocking dual screens with the Spanish plumber Dario as the leading mascot.
 
It was what I was expecting to be honest - a slightly smaller 360. Not crazy small, just a little bit.

Built in 802.11n is a nice touch, seeing as MS charge insane money for their WiFi adapters, and they have been playing catch up to the PS3 (especially the Slims) for built in features.

Stuff I don't like? Gloss! Sony realised glossy didn't work that well and went to matte, but MS have done the opposite. Still stuck with a custom HDD, which will no doubt be overpriced for replacements.


Will I get one?
Probably not. I've got a recent FF XIII Super Elite 360, so this offers me very little - literally built in WiFi vs. my adapter, and power/noise. Not worth the money.
 
tristangage said:
Any UI/Software/Dashboard changes?

I don't mind the new design. I think I'll probably get one in a year or so when I move out.
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Yes and no. There is a "new" Dashboard for waggle controls...I mean Kinetic, allowing easy motion access to things like FB, movies, movies and the basics. However, it'll be controller driven for the main part still.
 
All of the features in this xbox should have been included in the original, like the ps3. I want one, but will wait for mine to die in 2-3 years.
 
peskaa said:
Yes and no. There is a "new" Dashboard for waggle controls...I mean Kinetic, allowing easy motion access to things like FB, movies, movies and the basics. However, it'll be controller driven for the main part still.
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Ah I see. Thanks.

Kawininja619 said:
All of the features in this xbox should have been included in the original, like the ps3. I want one, but will wait for mine to die in 2-3 years.
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Ironic that tonight my father rang me up and told me that he turned the xbox on and it has the RROD... maybe he'll buy one of the new ones! :p
 
Finally we have official confirmation of the dimensions: 270mm(W) x 75mm(H) x 264mm(D). Which is apparently 17% smaller than the original.

:apple:
 
DISCOMUNICATION said:
Hope the new 360 is RROD-proof.
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RRoD is for "general hardware failure" - no electronics are 100% safe from hardware failure. There'll no doubt still be some cases of the RRoD, but how bad it will be in comparison to the 'legacy' 360 is what we have to wait for.

ghall said:
It's kind of an ugly design. It screams of somebody trying too hard to make it look pretty. And seriously they're just now including built in wifi?
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Yeah, it honestly looks like a hybrid between the old 360, the old fatty PS3 and the Wii - it has the 360's weird concave curves (albeit sharper and uglier), the fatty PS3's glossiness and touch sensitive power/eject buttons (who wants to bet MSFT was waiting for Sony to take this out of the slim PS3 before implementing it in the 360?), not to mention it also looks kind of like a black Wii that someone has taken to with a baseball bat.
 
Ivan P said:
There'll no doubt still be some cases of the RRoD, but how bad it will be in comparison to the 'legacy' 360 is what we have to wait for.
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Well, technically we will never have a RROD again with this new 360... because it doesn't have red lights. The new console's "Ring of Light" on the front of the console ONLY has green lights. ;)

From Joystiq...

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Isn't the new design trickling down to the lower priced models? I heard the Arcade and Pro models currently out are being allowed to go out of stock to be replace by new Slim versions.
 
Yeah, there'll be a cheaper version of the S to replace the Arcade/Pro systems. It'll probably have a 120GB HDD and maybe even be glossy white, as white Kinects have been spotted.

:apple:
 
Put my pre-order in at Game last night and traded in my Elite & 4 games I'll never be playing again. Plus a Dual Shock 3 controller I was going to replace with the Power A xbox-esque PS3 controller. I was very surprised to see the UK price is £199... which potentially makes it the cheapest price worldwide?

Total cash to be paid on the 16th? £25 :D
 
Not sure if i like the gloss black. I remember seeing PS3s that were covered in smudges and streaks. My current 360 can be cleaned fairly easy.

I also don't know about using the wifi. Its just a few more milliseconds to add onto the latency. Playing FPS I can tell the difference between 70ms, and >50ms. I had DSL and then cable last summer and could tell a difference. Round a corner and you are dead before you can even touch the trigger.

I do like how they made it smaller, and if they can quiet down the dvd drive that would be very nice. Bigger hard drive is about time. My 20GB is full just from downloading maps for Halo and COD.
 
cantthinkofone said:
I do like how they made it smaller, and if they can quiet down the dvd drive that would be very nice. Bigger hard drive is about time. My 20GB is full just from downloading maps for Halo and COD.
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Installing games is the best thing they've done for the 360. Granted, yes, it does take up a good deal of space, but it makes the 360 sooooo much quieter. The fans on the 360 can be a little noisy, but the DVD drive certainly is the loudest thing. Installing takes that right out of the equation. I have almost all of my games installed on my Elite's 120GB, along with tons of DLC, and I still have over 30GB free. Having 250GB to work with will leave PLENTY of room for the future.
 
The Xbox 360-2 looks a lot better than the new PS3, although I would rather it have a matte finish so as not to show fingerprints or dust as easily. That being said, the Xbox 360 should have came with wi-fi built in from the get go and not been an add on $80 option. I moved my Elite from the living room to my bedroom just so I could connect it to my AEBS and not have to spend a pretty penny doing it.

"...Priced at $299 (same as the current "Elite", so expect price drops on the older ones)..."
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Probably not...Remember how Sony didn't lower the sale price of the original PS3 when the refreshed model came out--even though it was higher?
 
GSMiller said:
Probably not...Remember how Sony didn't lower the sale price of the original PS3 when the refreshed model came out--even though it was higher?
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No, it has now been confirmed. At the time I posted that comment, it was just speculated, but Microsoft has now confirmed pricing and availability of the older Xbox.

As of right now, Microsoft is no longer making original 360s. Every 360 they build is the new one. So, if you really want the older one, you only have a limited time until stock of them is gone.

They also announced price drops for both of the older consoles as well. The current Arcade unit is dropping from $199 down to $149, and the current Elite is dropping from $299 down to $249. I would guess those prices will stay like that until the holiday season, and then any remaining stock of them at that point will be cleared out.
 
The systems are now starting to show up in retail today, and some people have posted pictures to give some scale to things. Here is the new 360 between the older 360 and the older PS3. It isn't exactly battling the Wii for smallest console, but it is a decent amount smaller...

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Other than portables, i've never really seen the point in slim consoles. All my consoles are fatties and i've never thought of selling them to buy a slim.

The 360 slim looks like a little kids toy next to the fat 360. Its just soooo cheesy and tacky. The original 360 case was much better, imo.
 
NoSmokingBandit said:
The 360 slim looks like a little kids toy next to the fat 360. Its just soooo cheesy and tacky.
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LOL, yea because one of those large chunks of black plastic is soooo much better looking than the other two. None of the current consoles are "good" looking, if we're being totally honest. They are just boxes, that perform a function. Who cares?
Eidorian said:
I'll be holding out for the Slim Pro model. That might be until Christmas though. :rolleyes:
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Try harder. You can do better.
 
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