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can someone tell me why I should think myself sane after paying $XXX (or) more for an MBP than I could get a Dell XPS 1530 for?

I've done my homework, and here is the dirty laundry (can you say mixed cliches?):
 

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can someone tell me why I should think myself sane after paying $XXX (or) more for an MBP than I could get a Dell 1530 for?

I've done my homework, and here is the dirty laundry (can you say mixed cliches?):

Keep in touch from DellRumors.
 
One runs Vista (Garbage) and one runs OS X, also known as the Holy Grail of OS's.

Point taken. I have zero experience with Vista, but XP has been good to me on my work lappy. The thing is, this computer will be my daughter's college computer, so having Vista as the primary OS (I'm not discounting going the hackintosh route) would be a definite drawback, if anything because I would not be able to help her as much as I would if the lappy was running Leopard (or Win XP, for that matter).
 
I feel you with this one. I'm going to college this fall and I'm in the same predicament. The first thing you have to ask the school is whether her they accepts Macs. Then you have to ask, "Why did I ask that first question? I can always use bootcamp and run Vista and Os X." Then go on apple.com and buy a Mac.
 
Yeah it is cheaper but then again it is a Dell your talking about. ;)

Um, I have a Dell Latitude D620, and, believe me, this is a solid machine. Also, Dell's support is actually better than Apple Care (not to mention less expensive). For example, when was the last time you had an Apple tech come to your house to fix a problem with your computer the day after you called? I bet this hasn't ever happened, nor is it likely to ever happen in the future (and not because Apple's products are flawless).
 
If I had to buy a PC, I'd buy a Dell, but if you don't have to put your daughter through Vista, don't. I'm sorry, but when I try to delete something and two command screens come up to make sure I want to delete it, that makes me angry. Again, Apple solved this problem with Time Machine and Time Capsule.
 
. . . For example, when was the last time you had an Apple tech come to your house to fix a problem with your computer the day after you called? I bet this hasn't ever happened, nor is it likely to ever happen in the future (and not because Apple's products are flawless).

1996, Performa 6300 CD. Don't even remember what the problem was, but an Apple tech came to my house and fixed it.
 
If I had to buy a PC, I'd buy a Dell, but if you don't have to put your daughter through Vista, don't. I'm sorry, but when I try to delete something and two command screens come up to make sure I want to delete it, that makes me angry. Again, Apple solved this problem with Time Machine and Time Capsule.

Vista is the only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on a Dell XPS right now. If I do get the XPS, I will try to load Win XP on it ASAP.
 
My Dell support has always been a heavily accented person claiming to be named Chris, Joseph or Roger. I have had a horrible history with Dell as do many others I know. Dell support is by far a reason not to get a Dell in my opinion.
 
The software is the difference that makes the Mac notebook more valuable.
Remember, Apple is not purchasing OSX licenses on a volume discount program; they actually have to pay for OSX development costs that are only spread out over 8% of the market.
 
Vista is the only thing that is stopping me from pulling the trigger on a Dell XPS right now. If I do get the XPS, I will try to load Win XP on it ASAP.

Yeah, if you load XP, you'll be fine. Vista works too, but I just couldn't gel with taking a performance hit for no reason. Heck, that's why I still use Tiger instead of Leopard. I'd recommend the Macbook Pro if you want OS X, and the Dell if you don't.
 
My Dell support has always been a heavily accented person claiming to be named Chris, Joseph or Roger. I have had a horrible history with Dell as do many others I know. Dell support is by far a reason not to get a Dell in my opinion.

Oh my, you haven't called AppleCare lately, have you? :eek::D
 
Anyone decently familiar with the computer industry would know that dells are crap.
 
Can't say that I have however on another note did the Win XP SP3 come out yet? What was the trigger date for this release? I heard of significant performance increases with it.
 
SP3 is indeed coming out supposedly first half of this year. SP1 for Vista is coming out in the next couple of weeks as well actually

IMO Vista is fine - in fact, I think it's far more forgiving for non-power users. If you want it to be as similar to XP, just tweak the settings in there until it is (such as turn off UAC, change themes, etc.)

But OS X is still OS X...
 
Um, I have a Dell Latitude D620, and, believe me, this is a solid machine. Also, Dell's support is actually better than Apple Care (not to mention less expensive). For example, when was the last time you had an Apple tech come to your house to fix a problem with your computer the day after you called? I bet this hasn't ever happened, nor is it likely to ever happen in the future (and not because Apple's products are flawless).

I believe that the performa series came with in-home set up.

in all seriousness, its a more solid system, everything is perfectly calibrated, and its pretty....

You are a poster here with more than 500 posts, why do you of all people need convincing, you've used a mac, if you need convincing, then maybe the mac is no longer for you
 
IMHO Vista is garbage. If I wanted an OS X skinned version of Xp that takes twice the memory to run, I'd have skinned Xp and filled my computer with Adware.
 
The software is the difference that makes the Mac notebook more valuable.
Remember, Apple is not purchasing OSX licenses on a volume discount program; they actually have to pay for OSX development costs that are only spread out over 8% of the market.

I use both OS X and Windows (XP) daily, and while I prefer OS X, I think it would be disingenuous of me to say that the Windows OS prevents me from doing what I need to get done. Again. I don't mind paying some premium for an Apple laptop, so long as I'm getting more than just a more stable/less vulnerable OS, and so long as this premium is not outrageously high (which it is right now). The current MBP costs well over $500 more than than the equivalent Dell XPS. That's an outrage.

I'm willing to wait till the end of March (can't speak for my daughter -- she's effectively without a usable computer since her old PC died). I will re-evaluate things at that time. Chances are, if the MBP has not been updated, I will buy the Dell XPS 1530 (or it's Penryn incarnation).
 
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