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Ok, So Maybe I Don't HATE Microsoft....

We have a GameCube, and the kids play the heck out of Mario and Co.

I'm trying to talk my wife into getting an X-box "since we need a DVD player in the family room anyway." The Cube is fine and all, but Deus Ex 2 will be available only on X-box (and PeeCee, and I would have to buy a new PeeCee to play it). Deus Ex rocks.
 
Originally posted by solvs
Well I do like their mice. Using one right now.

Maybe they should stick to hardware. :D
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agreed. microsoft makes some nice mice. i need to get a new one though. my current optical imtellimouse has taken quite a beating from use.
 
Originally posted by LethalWolfe
I'm thinking of buying an Xbox just for Soul Calibur 2. SC1 on my Dreamcast still gets played on a regular basis.


Lethal
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Soul Calibur 2 is best on GameCube. The Xbox controller dont cut it for fighting games.
 
The Xbox is pretty cool, there are some issues I have with it, but it's been a pretty awesome gaming system. Halo is just incredible, and so is MechAssult, NFL Fever 2003, Wreckless, Splinter Cell, etc. The one thing I cannot wait for is Halo 2. I've already beaten Halo on Legendary twice now, along with every other mode more times than I can count. It will be nice to see the"harder difficulty modes", improved levels, and online mutliplayer. My biggest problem is that no one will play me in multiplayer anymore since I spank them into next week so I am stuck with the same played out game. Once I get Halo 2, I am sure I will be quite scarce both on here and in my classes. ;)
 
Originally posted by patrick0brien
-All

If these three manufacturers could agree to one thing, I wish they could strike up box footprint standards like stereo components have, so that I can have all three in a single cabinet [easily].
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Here here. My consoles are behind the cabinet, it's a pain to change games. and while they're at it they can make my cable TV box the correct size.

AppleMatt
 
If there's anything good about the XBox, it came at the sacrifice of Bungie. I will always hold the death of Bungie as one of the Mac's best game developer against the scourge that is the XBox.

The PS 2 and GameCube are both great systems. I hardly think that either Sony or Nintendo will not be competitive in the future. Sony will keep most of the marketshare, though, for a long, long time. Microsoft doesn't have much of a chance because it wasn't able to emerge with even a small lead against Sony in the console wars.

We've got both the PS 2 and the GameCube. The PS 2, I feel, is better for games for teens & adults, RPGs, hardcore action, and the like. The GameCube is more oriented toward the younger kids and the older people who like the Mario games and stuff like that.

My little brother plays Smash Brothers a lot on his GameCube with his friends, and I'm not ashamed to say that I join in. It's a fun game.

I myself indulge in a good bit of Final Fantasy on my PS 2.

As far as Soul Calibur 2 arguments, the original was great, and the sequel will probably be great on any system. I'm still debating between getting it for the PS 2 or the GameCube.

But not the XBox, not the ones who took away Bungie, who kept us from Halo for so long...
 
Originally posted by themadchemist
My little brother plays Smash Brothers a lot on his GameCube with his friends, and I'm not ashamed to say that I join in. It's a fun game.
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Smash Brothers was an extremely fun game. i had it for my N64. sadly, i sold the N64 and all the games just recently. i just didn't play the N64 very often anymore. my original Playstation gets more use nowadays.
 
Originally posted by tjwett
i second that! i'm really struggling over here. i've played UT, Quake, etc. on my Mac with my Wacom 3 button mouse and i used to fare pretty well. now i'm trying to play Unreal and Wolfenstein with a game pad/controller and i'm getting my ass handed to me. i simply cannot aim the freakin thing with my thumbs! i'd love to see them release a nice multibutton mouse and a small, maybe 6 key, mini keyboard for directional purposes. it could probably easily be switched between righty and lefty within the game. no question, FPS with a gamepad is definitely a no-no.
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i think youll get used to it though, as much as one could get used to FPS with a gamepad. i mean i was like a blind man on acid the first few times i played halo, but after a few levels and plenty of deaths, i got pretty good at it. but yeah itll never be like the good old mouse/keyboard combo. :)

i think you actually can get a keyboard for the xbox, but im not sure about a mouse.
 
Hear, Hear!

Originally posted by themadchemist
If there's anything good about the XBox, it came at the sacrifice of Bungie. I will always hold the death of Bungie as one of the Mac's best game developer against the scourge that is the XBox.

The PS 2 and GameCube are both great systems. I hardly think that either Sony or Nintendo will not be competitive in the future. Sony will keep most of the marketshare, though, for a long, long time. Microsoft doesn't have much of a chance because it wasn't able to emerge with even a small lead against Sony in the console wars.

We've got both the PS 2 and the GameCube. The PS 2, I feel, is better for games for teens & adults, RPGs, hardcore action, and the like. The GameCube is more oriented toward the younger kids and the older people who like the Mario games and stuff like that.

My little brother plays Smash Brothers a lot on his GameCube with his friends, and I'm not ashamed to say that I join in. It's a fun game.

I myself indulge in a good bit of Final Fantasy on my PS 2.

As far as Soul Calibur 2 arguments, the original was great, and the sequel will probably be great on any system. I'm still debating between getting it for the PS 2 or the GameCube.

But not the XBox, not the ones who took away Bungie, who kept us from Halo for so long...
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I second that.

It' still upsets me that Microsoft bought Bungie and "stole" Halo from the Mac. And unfortunately, Halo is still a ghost of it's former self -- stuff that Bungie built into Halo 5 years ago is just coming into current games now, like Battlefield 1942.

For me, XBox games look good and in some cases better than PS2 but sometimes they look *too* polished and CG. But my biggest beefs are: uncomfortable controllers (the big one especially and the small one is an improvement but still...) and the handling. I have yet to demo an XBox game that is NOT sluggish in response.

That, and the last time I checked, DreamCast (now out of production for 4 years) still outsells XBox in Japan! :eek:

If I got another system (I have a PS2) it'd be a GameCube because of the licensing and overall quality of the games.

XBox really is good for the US market where Sports/FPS games rule. RPGs/everything else is the Japanese forte - hence the better games on PS2/GameCube.
 
Originally posted by Xero
i think youll get used to it though, as much as one could get used to FPS with a gamepad. i mean i was like a blind man on acid the first few times i played halo, but after a few levels and plenty of deaths, i got pretty good at it. but yeah itll never be like the good old mouse/keyboard combo. :)

i think you actually can get a keyboard for the xbox, but im not sure about a mouse.
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I don't think you can get a mouse for XBox.

Reason: Microsoft doesn't/won't allow people to use it as a PC.

It IS a PIII733 w/nVidia + 8GB hard drive and modified PS2 ports.
 
Here's a reason to hate microsoft that applies to the xbox- they're selling them for less than they cost to build in a mad effort to take over the entire gaming industry....
 
Originally posted by OutThere761
Here's a reason to hate microsoft that applies to the xbox- they're selling them for less than they cost to build in a mad effort to take over the entire gaming industry....
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Heh, every console manufacturer does that. It's the games that drive in the $$
 
Originally posted by OutThere761
Here's a reason to hate microsoft that applies to the xbox- they're selling them for less than they cost to build in a mad effort to take over the entire gaming industry....
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Yes! They win no matter what here. What they don't want is for you to buy a PS2 or other console. So you either play games on a PC (using Windows) or with their console. They're not really selling xbox at a loss--it's an investment in their future. Unfortunately I own an xbox. I also own a PS1 and PS2. I will probably also buy PS3, 4, 5, 6, and 7. I will not buy an xbox 2.
 
So if you bought an XBox but no games, would you be helping or hindering Microsoft?!

AppleMatt
 
Originally posted by AppleMatt
So if you bought an XBox but no games, would you be helping or hindering Microsoft?!

AppleMatt
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Since they already made all of them, and (probably) paid for them, then you'd just be giving them money back.
 
Originally posted by AppleMatt
So if you bought an XBox but no games, would you be helping or hindering Microsoft?!

AppleMatt
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Helping.

edit: But it doesn't matter because they'll eventually take over the world. You'll buy their console sooner or later. They'll get Playstation outlawed eventually.
 
Originally posted by Horrortaxi
Helping.

edit: But it doesn't matter because they'll eventually take over the world. You'll buy their console sooner or later. They'll get Playstation outlawed eventually.
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Playstations are now illegal because....uhhh......we, the M$ corporation....uhhhh....dislike them and they are .......uhhhh....infringing on our monopoly.
 
Yeah, since Microsoft has already manufactured the xBoxes, by buying you are helping pay off a bit of that investment. Don't do it.

Maybe they won't get the niche market (GCN) banned, then I win anyway :p
 
One thing that sucks about the Xbox is that when I bought it the first day it came out, the thing was $300, plus $150 for the HDtv box, $100 for the optical audio out, $48 *each* for another controller, then $60 *each* for games. They may have took a hit for the system, but they sure raped you over the price of everything else. How the heck do they justify nearly $50 for a controller when everyone else sells them for ~$15-20? Not to mention it kept freezing and then wouldn't load anything after 3 days, so I had to send it in twice for 2 weeks to get fixed. It still has problems, but I don't want them to replace it since all my game saves are on the HD and I'd hate to lose 2 years of game data. If it weren't for the price/quality of the xbox, it would be killer. I still enjoy it, though, since the games on it are awesome. I hope Xbox2 will be better, though. I hear Nintendo isn't making hardware (like Sega) after the Gamecube and I won't buy Sony PSx anymore since I had my original PS replaced 7 times and it kept overheating or I had to sit it up sideways just to work right and the PS2 was recalled when I bought it so I just got fed up with them. I wish Dreamcast was still alive, that was one sweet system that worked amazingly well. I swear, the best systems *ever* were NES/SNES and Dreamcast.
 
I have an xbox and i modded it. Best thing ive ever done. I dont have a remote, but i still watch dvds. I dont have much load time because my games are on my xboxes 120gb maxtor hdd. It is my entertainment center. Well, sort of... My iBook does a damn good job of running iTunes.
 
Originally posted by Powerbook G5
I hear Nintendo isn't making hardware (like Sega) after the Gamecube
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this is wrong and was corrected by nintendo themselves saying they had every intention of continuing to make a next gen console, and making sure it is damn good too. :D
 
That's good, I was pretty upset about that. First, Sony takes out Sega, then Microsoft takes out Nintendo. If it weren't for Sega and Nintendo, who knows what would have happened with with video game industry. They have some of the best games out there. If they make a new Nintendo system anything like the Gamecube, it will be sweet. They already have an IBM PPC processor with an ATi video processor...just imagine the next gen if they stick to that same formula. I just wish they made more mature games because most of them are a little too Candylandish for my taste. I love Perfect Dark, Eternal Darkness, and Meteroid, but those games seem more the exception with Nintendo than the norm like they are with the PS2 and Xbox. At least with having each of the systems, you can have the best mix of all worlds.
 
I can't wait until some little startup company comes along with something so beyond awesome that it just slams microsoft out of the water. I can just imagine Bill. G. getting a call while watching his 900" HDtv

"Hi, Bill?"
"Yeah?"
"Well...we have a situation..."
"Oh, I know about the new virus."
"Its not that"
"Well what is it then?"
"BlahBlah Inc. Just stole 96% of our market share overnight."
"Expletive(s) Deleted"
"They're coming to reposes your house now..."
:Knock Knock:
 
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