Okay I ordered a new toy! a lacie usb3/thunderbolt

Discussion in 'Mac mini' started by philipma1957, Sep 29, 2012.

  1. philipma1957, Sep 29, 2012
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    philipma1957 macrumors 603

    philipma1957

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    Apple store only has the 1tb version.


    lacie has a 128gb ssd a 256gb ssd and the 1tb hdd .

    they have both cables usb3 and t-bolt.

    the 128gb ssd is 199

    the 256gb ssd is 349

    the 1tb hdd is 249




    lacie has all 3 in stock


    http://www.lacie.com/products/product.htm?id=10599



    apple had just the 1tb hdd in stock



    http://store.apple.com/us/product/HA384ZM/A/lacie-1tb-rugged-usb-30-thunderbolt-series-hard-drive


    I will tear my open and drop in a few ssds.

    I have a samsung a mushkin a crucial and an intel .


    If I remember this case is easy to open. But with free cables it is a big price drop.


    consider a 256gb ssd for 349.00 all included.


    The seagate is about 85 if you are lucky a cable is 45 that is 130 and on sale a 256gb ssd is 180 comes to 310 and no usb3. So when the 256gb comes out it may be worth getting.
     

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  2. dvdchance macrumors regular

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    Looks very appealing, but why do so many of the Thunderbolt storage options only have a single Thunderbolt port? Defeats one of the big plusses of this interface. Though I guess this is more of a portable solution so it kinda makes more sense.
     
  3. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    this is very close to what should be available. the lack daisy chain is a non issue since it is bus powered. it needs to be at the end of the daisy chain. if and when new minis come out 2 t-bolt ports would solve most daisychain problems.

    right now the 256gb ssd model would work really well for a 27 inch imac 2011 model. it would really give your machine a good speed boost as a boot drive.
     
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    Any update on this? Wondering if you tore the thing apart? :)
     
  5. TeeeCeee macrumors newbie

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    Bought and opened the same (HDD version)

    Bought the 1T HDD version of the LaCie rugged TB/USB 3 ext drive to be used as the back up drive of my iMac 27 which is booted by a LaCie LBD 240G RAID0 set up. All going very well, I found the the back up software supplied by LaCie (Intego BU Manager) does not make a bootable backup, so I used CCC which is OK.
    Void the warranty after i week and opened up the rugged case, to my surprise the HDD is actually a pricey Samsung Sprinpoint (Momentus) 1T with 8G NAND.
    Blackmagic test is consistant with what the manufacturer quoted.
    Taken a photo and wonder any one here can tell if its SATA 3 or not. And if it is what is the best (fastest) SATA 3 SSD that I can put in to do some tests. Wonder if it will be better than the stock rugged SSD? or even the 240G Raid0 SSD?
     

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    I put a 128GB Samsung 830 SSD into mine and I get the same reads as LaCie says, 365MB/s....guess we will have to wait for better ThunderBolt to SATA chipsets to come out....although LaCie is now using a different chipset in the Little Big Disk to achieve the higher reads of SATA3 in RAID....
     
  7. philipma1957 thread starter macrumors 603

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    365mbs is not sata II it is sata III.

    a one port t-bolt gets 10 to 20 percent under the sataIII max . the 128gb samsung max is

    Sequential Read Speed 520MB/s
    Sequential Write Speed 320MB/s
    Random Read Speed 80K IOPS
    Random Write Speed 30K IOPS


    so getting 365 reads is normal in a direct sataIII connection the samsung will get 465 reads.

    the spec above of 520 read is from this link


    http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/memory-storage/MZ-7PC128N/AM-specs


    that is a theoretical max.


    remember t-bolt has 4 chips 2 in the cable one in the case and one in the mini these slow down the max speed.


    I have a few t-bolt pieces of gear. the pegasus r-6 with 3 samsung 830's in raid0 has reached 870mbs for me the limit is the controller in the pegasus I think a few people got about 920mbs with that one.


    BTW I was short cash and returned the lacie rugged. I grabbed a third lacie little big disk instead.
     
  8. TeeeCeee macrumors newbie

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    Guess its still SATA2 max out at 3XXMB/s. Did I read somewhere that the Samsung 830 can read at 5XXMb/s in a Seagate GoFlex?
    May be I can try a 3 ssd RAID0 with one 240G ssd LBD (2x120) and one rugged with a SATA2 120G SSD. What speed will you think that will achieved?

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    Sorry Philipma, I posted mine B4 I saw your last post.
    Do you think I should buy a Samsung 830 ? or something better.
     
  9. philipma1957, Oct 22, 2012
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    there really is not a "better" ssd then a samsung 830. just look for a deal on the 256gb sized one

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-list...=8-1&keywords=samsung+256gb+ssd&condition=new

    amazon has one for $169.99


    getting the 256gb size is important it runs best in the t-bolt powered add-ons.


    the 512gb size tends to have a power issue as it draws a lot power during long writes . It also will spike at a high power draw so sometimes the ssd will drop connection on the seagate 2.5 inch adapter and possibly on the new lacie rugged both are t-bolt bus powered. the 512gb works fine in a lacie little big disk or a pegasus r6 which have there own power source.

    the 128gb size will work but it is a little slower then the 256gb ssd plus it is 104 for 128gb vs 169 for 256gb
     

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