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Old Apple Displays-Price Advice

redheeler said:
The aluminum ones have a DVI connection, more modern design, and higher contrast ratio so they're the oldest that are still desirable for modern Macs. That doesn't stop me from wanting one to go with my G5, though :)

I'd also like to get a 22" for my Cube, but those don't seem to be common at a reasonable price.
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I am actually considering a modern Mac Mini + acrylic cinema 23" hd setup. I just think these early 2000s displays are awesome. Are these old displays that bad? :D

I've read that it's fairly easy to fix the brightness issue, but I'm still concerned about the quality.
 
The 23" acrylic displays are still of a nice quality. Just keep in mind their age when using them.
 
Jkj12 said:
Are these old displays that bad? :D.
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Well, compared to what I normally use (posting this from a 5K iMac) :D

I haven't used a 23" Cinema display, only a 17" Studio display. The quality is acceptable and very good for the time, but nowadays there are better displays you can get.
 
redheeler said:
Well, compared to what I normally use (posting this from a 5K iMac) :D

I haven't used a 23" Cinema display, only a 17" Studio display. The quality is acceptable and very good for the time, but nowadays there are better displays you can get.
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I was using my 23 and 17 side-by-side for a while, and I'd say that they're pretty comparable.

You do get some color variation just based on on-time, as the fluorescent tubes do shift in color temperature a bit as they age(my 22" is noticeably purple along the top and bottom edge).

These were fantastic displays when new-they were probably the best LCDs on the consumer market. Overall, I find that they've aged pretty gracefully. The same is not true of some newer Dells and the like that I've used(I tend to end up with a lot of Dell LCDs due to my typical sources).
 
bunnspecial said:
I was using my 23 and 17 side-by-side for a while, and I'd say that they're pretty comparable.

You do get some color variation just based on on-time, as the fluorescent tubes do shift in color temperature a bit as they age(my 22" is noticeably purple along the top and bottom edge).

These were fantastic displays when new-they were probably the best LCDs on the consumer market. Overall, I find that they've aged pretty gracefully. The same is not true of some newer Dells and the like that I've used(I tend to end up with a lot of Dell LCDs due to my typical sources).
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I've had issues with all of the 17" Studio displays that I have. One has a loose stand and won't stay in position as well as stuck pixels, another has bright spots, and another has image retention.

They're ok, but definitely not safe from aging.
 
tevion5 said:
(Assuming you mean the aluminium) In Europe I'd say around €150. Getting a working one for less than that is very rare indeed.
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In the U.S. $125 I think is fair. Most are advertised locally for $150-$200. I paid $80 or $90 for mine and the guy delivered it.
 
redheeler said:
I've had issues with all of the 17" Studio displays that I have. One has a loose stand and won't stay in position as well as stuck pixels, another has bright spots, and another has image retention.

They're ok, but definitely not safe from aging.
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I'm sitting in front of my 23" now, and it honestly still looks great. I need to dig out my Colorvision Spyder-back when I was still more seriously into photography and using CRTs, I used that think religiously. I don't think I've seen it in 5 years :) . I do go through and manually calibrate all of my monitors-on Apple monitors all I really do is set the gamma to 2.2(since about 10.7, Apple has used 2.2 as the default) and then set the native gamma on non-Apple displays. I've gotten some strange looks when setting the gamma at work, as I squint and sit about 5 feet back from the screen to do it.

In any case, I've just bought another 23" acrylic in the last few minutes, so we'll see how it compares to the one I'm using now.

I also woke up this morning to a very generous offer from someone on the LEM Swap for the 15" acrylic display for the cost of shipping.

Now I just need to find the other ones close :)
 
redheeler said:
I didn't know they still had physical buttons. I'm set on a 22" because it's from the same time as the Cube. If I ever get a 23" it'll go with my DP 2.0 G5.

Out of curiosity, what GPUs would work in a Cube without additional cooling? I'm thinking of upgrading mine from the stock Rage 128, but not to anything really high-end. Just to make Tiger a bit more smooth.
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I was playing with mine today, and took a picture of the buttons for you. I think they're kind of interesting. The power button has a white LED in it and acts just like the capacitive buttons on the later displays.

I also prefer how the brightness controls work on these vs. the later models. On the later ones, pushing the brightness button just brings up the display control panel where you can move the slider with a mouse. On the 22", you have separate up and down buttons that control the brightness directly.
 

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I vaguely remember someone asking about school disposals in the UK. Those are few and far between but a modest one has come up today for two B&W towers. The point of interest in this one are the two CRTs thrown in - both different designs. Might be of interest to someone. Not my sale etc.

Link to listing on eBay
 
weckart said:
I vaguely remember someone asking about school disposals in the UK. Those are few and far between but a modest one has come up today for two B&W towers. The point of interest in this one are the two CRTs thrown in - both different designs. Might be of interest to someone. Not my sale etc.

Link to listing on eBay
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I would buy, but shipping to the us for all that would be crazy expensive..
 
Considering that I couldn't even get the 17" ADC from Vermont without it being damaged, I'd hate to think what a trip across the Atlantic would do to one...
 
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I once owned a 17 version and have to say the display was great. The massive size however wasn't that wonderful, hence I no longer own it but use a 20 inch aluminum cinema display in conjunction with a samsung lcd for a dual display setup.
 
bunnspecial said:
I'm trying to fill out my collection of G3/G4 era Apple displays and put out a "feeler" on the LEM Swap for the ones I'm missing.

MODS: I'm NOT soliciting buying here-just trying to get an idea of what is a fair price.

In any case, I'm looking for the following:

15" "Blueberry" LCD
21" "Blueberry"(or graphite) CRT
15" Acrylic LCD ADC
17" ADC CRT

I've had responses on a couple of these, with most people wanting in the $40-50 range plus shipping(not cheap, especially with the CRTs). I also had one response from someone who had all and was offended by my "package" offer of $150(+shipping) and countered with $500(+shipping).

I'm guessing a fair price lies somewhere between those two values. I'm not really that concerned about the 15" ADC, as those show up for sale all the time and know that they can be pretty reliably had for $40-$50(including shipping) on Ebay.

I don't have a lot to base my pricing on for the others, though. I know that the Blueberry LCD is quite scarce, and expect to likely have to pay a premium for that one.

I know the two CRTs aren't particularly common either, but to be blunt my observation is that the CRT market is effectively dead, as most people don't want to deal with the weight and power draw-especially the bigger ones. I want the ADC one because it's always fascinated me, and the 21" one because it is a high quality display that matches computers in my collection.

Any thoughts on(fair) values for the above? I don't want to short change someone, but also don't want pay too much. I have a feeling that the $500 package price was probably way too high, but could certainly be wrong.
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bunnspecial said:
I'm trying to fill out my collection of G3/G4 era Apple displays and put out a "feeler" on the LEM Swap for the ones I'm missing.

MODS: I'm NOT soliciting buying here-just trying to get an idea of what is a fair price.

In any case, I'm looking for the following:

15" "Blueberry" LCD
21" "Blueberry"(or graphite) CRT
15" Acrylic LCD ADC
17" ADC CRT

I've had responses on a couple of these, with most people wanting in the $40-50 range plus shipping(not cheap, especially with the CRTs). I also had one response from someone who had all and was offended by my "package" offer of $150(+shipping) and countered with $500(+shipping).

Any thoughts on(fair) values for the above? I don't want to short change someone, but also don't want pay too much. I have a feeling that the $500 package price was probably way too high, but could certainly be wrong.
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Hello there.

The problem with this (as others have already stated is the shipping cost). I priced it out (sort of) and UPS freight is quoting so fat at $400+. That's not completely accurate of course since I am estimating based on Southern CA to Louisville.

That's sad too because there is someone on CL in my area selling a PMG3 B&W with what looks like a matching blueberry 21" CRT that you desire. And the set is being sold for $20. You can tell that the seller is not the original owner as well.

Here's the link:

PMG3 "SMURF"
 
Gamer9430 said:
Old Apple Displays-Price Advice

I had a massive Dell Trinitron monitor with my Dell XPS T500. One of the most beautiful monitors I ever had, however, the thing was a tank. It was just too big. Anyway, it looked great from any angle, had many different resolutions, and was glare resistant for the most part. It even withstood having the top right corner get melted by a desk lamp light bulb being impressed into the top, making a large groove in it.

Too bad I got rid of it, but I had absolutely no where to put it.
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I remember you saying it was the same one as the one I was gifted a few weeks ago. Man, the colors are SO GOOD.

Bunnspecial, I am with you, I guess you have been looking for a lot longer than I have, but I want the same CRTs for my collection.

The hardest to find for me is the Acrylic LCD ADC. I have not seen ANY of them, except for a few on CraigsList priced for obscene prices (NYC of course).

Are the blueberry 21"s harder to find than the 17"? I see blueberry CRTs on occasion on CraigsList and they are going for nothing, safe to assume they are 17"ers?
 
JessH said:
Are the blueberry 21"s harder to find than the 17"? I see blueberry CRTs on occasion on CraigsList and they are going for nothing, safe to assume they are 17"ers?
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I see the 17s fairly often, but the 21s not so often.

The key spotting guide is to look at the buttons on the front. The 17" will have a power button on the right and a series of small(adjustment) buttons along the bottom edge. The 21" has a "colorwheel" button on the left front of the screen.

As for the LCD ADCs-I've picked them up here and there. My 17" came with my first PM G5. My 22" was a Craigslist find from up around Cincinnatti. I have two 23"s-one came from Ebay(I think it was $100 w/shipping and including an A1006) and the other was bought on the marketplace here($25+shipping). The 15" came from the LEM Swap-the seller gave it to me, but I paid him $25 for an A1006 plus about $40 for shipping. My 20" was about $60 on Ebay.

From what I've seen, the 22" is one of the hardest to find. I was looking up prices the other day, and the original MSRP on it was $4000(compared to, I think, $499 for the ADC CRT and $599 for the 15" LCD).
 
Good news!

I've found a 21" CRT a half hour away, and am leaving in a few minutes to get it!

I offered $50 for it, and the guy is throwing in a B&W for that price.
 
bunnspecial said:
Good news!

I've found a 21" CRT a half hour away, and am leaving in a few minutes to get it!

I offered $50 for it, and the guy is throwing in a B&W for that price.
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Why are you so lucky?!

But seriously, good for you that you found one, and your getting another computer for your collection :)
 
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