old ATA/IDE drive on OSX

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  1. zoran macrumors 68030

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    I got an old enclosure with an ATA/IDE drive with WinXP on it and many files. Im connecting it on OSX but no drive no nothing... could the drive be bad or is it some software issue that will not allow me to see the drive? In disk utility there is nothing seen... strange?
     
  2. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Does the drive spin up, and can you hear it accessing within the enclosure? Does the enclosure appear in System Information > USB (or Firewire if it's a Firewire enclosure)?
     
  3. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    I can hear it spin yes. Where is System Info located? Is that in DiscUtility?
     
  4. redheeler macrumors 603

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    Open the Apple menu and Option-click About This Mac. Then in the sidebar click USB, your enclosure will be listed there if it is recognized & working correctly.
     
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    Doesn't look like it's showing up there. I assume you've checked all the connections, so you may just have a bad enclosure.
     
  7. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Yes ive checked all the connections... hmm so then i guess even if its a file allocation system old and different that what OSX uses it doesnt matter, it should at least see the drive there right?
     
  8. redheeler macrumors 603

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    The enclosure should be recognized by MacOS regardless of the contents of the drive, yes. It's possible the enclosure itself has incompatibility with MacOS, but the most likely possibility is that it has simply failed (which they'll sometimes do, especially the cheaper ones) - and that would explain why the Mac doesn't detect a device attached at all.
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    You can also try a different USB port, just in case one of them has gone bad.
     
  9. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Ok its working now and the drive is recognised... question now is how can i see the drive which is a diff file format other than MacOS. Should be a file format used by WinXP back then. Any ideas?
     
  10. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    WinXP isn't that old.
    The drive format should be either some version of FAT, probably fat32 - or NTFS.
    Either would be recognized, and readable, from a Mac, assuming that external hardware is working properly.
    Fat32 should be fully usable on any Mac. NTFS would be read-only, unless you have NTFS drivers installed.

    If you have the drive plugged in, so it is a visible device in the System Information window, can you see the drive in Disk Utility? If it is not mounted, you should be able to choose Mount, either an icon in the top bar of that Disk Utility window, or choose Mount from the File menu, still in Disk Utility.
    If, instead you get the choice to "UNmount", then that drive is already mounted, and you should be able to access it from the sidebar in any finder window. That should allow you to browse through the files on that drive.
    You can also, in Disk Utility, choose that external drive, and click First Aid (or Repair Disk on older versions of Disk Utility)
    Fat32 should show a repair action of some kind. NTFS cannot be repaired on your Mac, unless you have an NTFS driver installed.
     
  11. zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Im sorry im not really following, i seem to get diff results... when the ext drive is turned on im asked weather to initialise it or not and i am attaching a screen shot of what is seen in the USB System Info
     

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    Great!
    What do you see in Disk Utility? If you select that drive, then you should see some information, such as what format it is.
    Did you try the Repair Disk (or First Aid) in Disk Utility?

    If NO format, or it also says the format is unknown - then you need to plug it in to a Windows system, and try to repair the drive from Windows.
    If the files on that drive are important to you, take the drive to someone that can help you decide if the drive is good, or dead (which is very possible)
     
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    zoran thread starter macrumors 68030

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    Repair Disk is unavailable but here is what i can see about the info.
    Screen Shot 2017-04-14 at 12.37.37 PM.png
     
  14. DeltaMac macrumors 604

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    Good!
    (but not the drive, unfortunately... )

    Connect to a Windows PC, and try some of the good disk tools that are available while using Windows.
    As you say your drive was originally in a Windows PC, that will be a good direction to go to attempt to fix it (if possible)
     
  15. fallofredmond macrumors newbie

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    At best you have to use Windows to rebuild your MBR or Master Boot Record which is the Partition Map Scheme that BIOS based PCs use for drives.

    At worst, your drive formatting is shot and your data is gone. I doubt that but it's possible.

    Use Windows to attempt to access and copy your data to another drive. This way you don't have to repair jack with software and you can just reformat your drive for use with a Mac and copy your data back.

    If you feel like a bit of a challenge, use Windows 7 or better and command line utilities to attempt to fix the partition map-specifically "fixmbr" (plenty of tutorials on the Internet).
     

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