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Old MacBook Pro NEW Cinema Display

Everything you guys have said (and argued about) is actually a pretty good endorsement for DisplayPort (with an endorsement for MDP too, only if it catches on).

In theory, a computer with one DisplayPort can connect to any display with VGA, DVI, DVI-D, HDMI, DP, etc. A standard at one end of the system, whether it's the source end or the display end, which won't become obsolete for years, would be great.

The sad part is that Apple always looks like they're crazy when they adopt something early, like they did with wifi, usb, firewire, no-floppy disks, etc.
 
I was on another chat and a guy said he figured out a way to do it. Through a duel port mini display to dvi.
 
Just found.
Apple DVI adapter - dual link DVI - Apple mini-DisplayPort 1 x 4 pin USB Type A - male from Apple in Output Cables
Apple DVI adapter - dual link DVI - Apple mini-DisplayPort 1 x 4 pin USB Type A - male

$89 to $99 from 9 sellers

Mac

The MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air each have a Mini DisplayPort that allows you to connect an external display or projector using an adapter. You can use an external display as your main workspace or to extend your desktop, or you can work in mirrored mode with a projector so you can view what your audience sees.

Use the Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter to connect your MacBook, MacBook Pro, or MacBook Air to a 30-inch display, such as the 30-inch Apple Cinema Display HD, and enjoy the ultimate widescreen canvas with a resolution of 2560 by 1600 pixels.
 
theonetheonly said:
Just found.
Apple DVI adapter - dual link DVI - Apple mini-DisplayPort 1 x 4 pin USB Type A - male from Apple in Output Cables
Apple DVI adapter - dual link DVI - Apple mini-DisplayPort 1 x 4 pin USB Type A - male

$89 to $99 from 9 sellers

Mac

The MacBook, MacBook Pro, and MacBook Air each have a Mini DisplayPort that allows you to connect an external display or projector using an adapter. You can use an external display as your main workspace or to extend your desktop, or you can work in mirrored mode with a projector so you can view what your audience sees.

Use the Mini DisplayPort to Dual-Link DVI Adapter to connect your MacBook, MacBook Pro, or MacBook Air to a 30-inch display, such as the 30-inch Apple Cinema Display HD, and enjoy the ultimate widescreen canvas with a resolution of 2560 by 1600 pixels.
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Go back and read the first post genius. You have it backwards.
 
Apple opened the licensing for the mini displayport on the 24" acd, pretty much they are passing the buck onto 3rd party accessory makers to make a solution.
Maybe email griffin and see if they'll tell you if they have one upcoming.

You can try all you want but you won't find an adapter that exists already.
The facts are that mini displayport wasn't on the scene until the day apple released this display, and if there had been any adapter released since that dat, it would have been all over this site/forums already. There are a lot of people that want the new display but not for a new macbook/macbook pro.

Be sure to tell your friends about this apple experience, apple deserves all the negative light they can get from teasing/confusing its customers with a new display that works with 3 computers only.
Any other monitor manufacturer would have put a second input on there, dvi or hdmi.
 
thedarkhorse said:
Apple opened the licensing for the mini displayport on the 24" acd, pretty much they are passing the buck onto 3rd party accessory makers to make a solution.
Maybe email griffin and see if they'll tell you if they have one upcoming.

You can try all you want but you won't find an adapter that exists already.
The facts are that mini displayport wasn't on the scene until the day apple released this display, and if there had been any adapter released since that dat, it would have been all over this site/forums already. There are a lot of people that want the new display but not for a new macbook/macbook pro.

Be sure to tell your friends about this apple experience, apple deserves all the negative light they can get from teasing/confusing its customers with a new display that works with 3 computers only.
Any other monitor manufacturer would have put a second input on there, dvi or hdmi.
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Wow.

There is no confusion. There is no trickery. There is no deceit.
Apple made a product designed ONLY for the new macbooks. It says it everywhere and the fact that the monitor is mini-displayport while older machines have DVI should tell you that you cannot use it. Its just that simple.
Going into an Apple store to investigate your purchase would have given you the the same outcome. Seeing the new lineup connected to the new displays while seeing the old lineup connected to the older models.

As much as I hate to say it, Apple is moving on to bigger and better things. Obviously, it feels as if Apple was somewhat rushed into releasing the product last year and had to "wow" everyone , especially considering the display and the 17" was not available.

And besides, any other monitor is available to those who want one, but this monitor is for those who want an intergrated solution. Since the powerbook days peole have been clammoring for a dock for the portables and this is pretty much it. Infact, while I havn't seen one in person, I would bet that the breakout cable length of the monitor wouldn't even work with a previous gen macbook pro since magsafe and usb are on the opposite side of the dvi port.

Apple may come out with something else in the future. Might ditch the 20" all together and go for a 24" and 30" with the same options but mini displayport as well as DVI. I actually think they will utilize display port for the desktops since there are video cards already supporting the standard and will have a mini displayport to display port adapter available.

But for now, this issue is getting much more attention than it deserves. Apple released the monitor specifically for the new line. Thats it. Nothing more.
 
Eddyisgreat said:
Since the powerbook days peole have been clammoring for a dock for the portables and this is pretty much it. Infact, while I havn't seen one in person, I would bet that the breakout cable length of the monitor wouldn't even work with a previous gen macbook pro since magsafe and usb are on the opposite side of the dvi port.
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I've been surprised by the number of people who think the 24" LED ACD is the new ACD, when it's so clearly, as you say, built exclusively for the MacBook line. I wholly expect that when Apple comes around to updating the rest of the ACD lineup, we'll see another 24" one in there, without a Magsafe and possibly with a FW800 cable or something. The current one supplements the lineup as a MacBook only model, it didn't replace anything (although Apple discontinuing the 23" ACD at the same time, imo, was a dumb move)

However, question. I've never seen a MacBook Air attached to the new ACDs, but the magsafe is on the opposite side of the machine from the USB and mDP. Haven't heard any issues with that, so I'd assume the cable can reach both sides.
 
RexTraverse said:
I've been surprised by the number of people who think the 24" LED ACD is the new ACD, when it's so clearly, as you say, built exclusively for the MacBook line. I wholly expect that when Apple comes around to updating the rest of the ACD lineup, we'll see another 24" one in there, without a Magsafe and possibly with a FW800 cable or something. The current one supplements the lineup as a MacBook only model, it didn't replace anything (although Apple discontinuing the 23" ACD at the same time, imo, was a dumb move)

However, question. I've never seen a MacBook Air attached to the new ACDs, but the magsafe is on the opposite side of the machine from the USB and mDP. Haven't heard any issues with that, so I'd assume the cable can reach both sides.
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I agree, when the desktops are released (updated), I expect to see brand new Apple Cinema Displays that are usable by ALL recent/current Macs. Mini Display Port or not. They are just not going to sell ACDs to people that will not buy a new Mac. They will have a solution whether it be a DVI to MDP or probably a brand new ACD line that is NOT specifically for the MB line. The Mini and the Mac Pro NEED ACDs too. And Apple has a great line of displays. I am really surprised they discontinued the 23" so makes me think new ACDs are coming very soon! Along with new desktop Macs.
 
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It wont let me go to the web site you posted, but it has to be dvi to mini display. It can't be dvi to mini dvi there are completely different.
I am still surprised they have not come out with one yet.
 
Everyone sure seems to be in a huff over a lousy display adapter. I'm not sure why anyone would WANT to buy one of Apple's overpriced displays, but if you REALLY wanted to hook the new one up to an older MBP, I imagine this combo would work just fine:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/M9321G/B

(or this once available for less: http://www.monoprice.com/products/p...=10428&cs_id=1042802&p_id=5106&seq=1&format=2 )

plus

http://www.amazon.com/Tripp-Lite-P1..._m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0KK38ZR7BC4X63W7HQ90


Your total cost should be around $35 or less. Spare me any posts about it's supposed to be Mini Display Port TO the monitor. The last time I checked most cables are bi-directional and so one should not get hung up on labeling, thank you very much. You don't need any dual-link dvi solutions since it's only a 24" monitor we're talking about.

I'm assuming one of the previous poster's description of:

"At this point in time we need something which will accept the male mini display input from the display and output to male dvi which will go to the female receptacle of the video card."

is correct as I've not seen the connector on the back of the new monitor to see if it's male or female.
 
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MagnusVonMagnum said:
Everyone sure seems to be in a huff over a lousy display adapter. I'm not sure why anyone would WANT to buy one of Apple's overpriced displays, but if you REALLY wanted to hook the new one up to an older MBP, I imagine this combo would work just fine:

Your total cost should be around $35 or less. Spare me any posts about it's supposed to be Mini Display Port TO the monitor. The last time I checked most cables are bi-directional and so one should not get hung up on labeling, thank you very much. You don't need any dual-link dvi solutions since it's only a 24" monitor we're talking about.
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None of what you posted will work. First, the monitor accepts a displayport signal and not DVI, which the old computers output. Second, none of the adapters you linked can even physically interface with the mini-displayport plug that the monitor uses.
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
Your total cost should be around $35 or less. Spare me any posts about it's supposed to be Mini Display Port TO the monitor. The last time I checked most cables are bi-directional and so one should not get hung up on labeling, thank you very much. You don't need any dual-link dvi solutions since it's only a 24" monitor we're talking about.
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No problem- especially since directionality does not even matter in the case of the items you listed in the first place.

Your parts are for a Mini-DVI connection to full size DVI.

However, a mini-DisplayPort is not a mini-DVI.
 
sickmacdoc said:
No problem- especially since directionality does not even matter in the case of the items you listed in the first place.

Your parts are for a Mini-DVI connection to full size DVI.

However, a mini-DisplayPort is not a mini-DVI.
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Ok, I copied the wrong link from this thread. This is it:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB570Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng&mco=MzE3MDEwMA

The point is there IS an adapter combination and you ought to be able to easily figure that out. Combine it with either a male/female DVI adapter and/or cable and you're in business. No such thing my foot.
 
MagnusVonMagnum said:
Ok, I copied the wrong link from this thread. This is it:

http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB570Z/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3Ng&mco=MzE3MDEwMA

The point is there IS an adapter combination and you ought to be able to easily figure that out. Combine it with either a male/female DVI adapter and/or cable and you're in business. No such thing my foot.
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Nope. Everything you posted Physically won't work.

That cable is going from Male mini-DP to female dvi. That is to say, go from the mini-dp of the new macbooks to the male dvi port from the monitor.
This wouldn't be a gender change, but a conversion cable. If you look closely, you'll see that the 'business' end of the cable you linked is exactly the same port as found on the macbook pro (the dvi port).
This cable has absolutely nothing to do with the non unibody macbooks or the previous gen MBA whatsoever.
Additionally, and this may be where the hangup is, this cable will not interface with the new cinema display, again, whatsoever.
Why? Because the ends of both the display and the cable you linked to are male. I know as humans some people choose to do that sort of interaction, but as far as cables go, there are physically no ways to connect the two, besides a coupler, but then where would the output from the device come in?

As I said earlier, the solution we require would be a cable to convert the DVI receptacle to mini displayport (female to female). Then we could plug in the monitor (male displayport cable from monitor goes to female mini displayport receptacle). But such a solution does not exist.
 
COMMENCE HIJACK THREAD!

They (meaning the whole computer industry) should make a single standard universal media cable that does everything!

- Video
- Audio
- Works with everything because it's standard.
- Makes you breakfast in the morning.

But that will never ever happen. There is no cable for this as everyone has stated. But are there any cables at all, because according to idealism, they only exist if I percieve them to exist. Think about that!
 
Minimoose 360 said:
COMMENCE HIJACK THREAD!

They (meaning the whole computer industry) should make a single standard universal media cable that does everything!

- Video
- Audio
- Works with everything because it's standard.
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I'm pretty sure the current Displayport spec is capable of Audio + video (just not Apple supported yet), and don't forget HDMI which is growing in popularity among PC laptops as means of attaching an external display.
 
Eddyisgreat said:
Nope. Everything you posted Physically won't work.

That cable is going from Male mini-DP to female dvi. That is to say, go from the mini-dp of the new macbooks to the male dvi port from the monitor.
This wouldn't be a gender change, but a conversion cable. If you look closely, you'll see that the 'business' end of the cable you linked is exactly the same port as found on the macbook pro (the dvi port).
This cable has absolutely nothing to do with the non unibody macbooks or the previous gen MBA whatsoever.
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You would connect the male adapter to the female DVI end and that would easily then connect to the previous generation MBP that the user has. That mostly certainly IS a gender change issue, NOT a conversion of any kind. The only potential problem would be the other end (the Mini-DP end) and that depends on how Apple's monitor is set up. If they are using a hard-wired cable with a female end on it, you would need a currently non-existing male mini-DP adapter to finish the connection using the Apple cable mentioned. This would be pretty simple of a 3rd party company to offer.

If there's a male connection on the monitor itself, you could easily connect it as mentioned. As I said in a previous post, I have not seen one of these monitors to see how they connected it. In any case, it most certainly IS only a gender issue in regards to Apple's already existing conversion cable. This is because Mini-Display Port is bi-directional (look it up if you don't believe me) so the only caveat is making the actual connections (in this case the genders need reversed). Apple has done the rest for you already with the Mini-DP to DVI cable they already sell.

But both your statement that the cable in question has "absolutely nothing" to do with this guy's problem and that a conversion cable is needed (when the one I linked to IS a conversion cable) are just plain ignorant statements are on your part. It IS simply a gender issue with Apple's existing conversion cable to connect that monitor to a previous generation MBP because the cables are bi-directional (i.e. even if it's meant to connect a Mini-DP to a DVI monitor input, if you could reverse both genders, it most certainly will work the other way around, letting you connect a Mini-DP monitor to a DVI laptop and THAT is what the thread poster is looking to do). The only problem I see is the wrong genders on the cable. A male-adapter for DVI is easily purchased and I linked to one as an example. IF Apple hard-wired their cable to the new monitor, then a simple Mini-DP gender adapter would be needed to finish the connection. If you could get a spare port part from Apple, you could easily construct an adapter yourself even. It's just an electrical connection, after all.

Of course, if Apple had simply used the existing STANDARD of Display Port, this would not even be an issue. The existing full sized Display Port is ALREADY plenty TINY (so much so that you could easily stack two of them vertically on most notebooks as they are similar in size to HDMI and I've certainly seen those stacked vertically on notebooks). Apple seems to have done this only to confuse the market, create a new "standard" that is both confusing an not needed and to corner a monitor market for their own hardware in the short term to temporarily maximize their profits. In other words, Apple did this for Apple's sake and no one else.
 
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