If Apple updated the iPad 10 with an M1 SoC and left everything else the same (price included), that would be the best value iPad.
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OLED iPad Pro Price Hikes May Be Lower Than Early Reports Suggested
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Then it will kills macOS and Mac. That's why iPad series, especially iPad Pro have limited uses. They should just keep iPad as a larger iPhone.
In this price segment, the SoC is pretty much irrelevant. M1 is complete overkill. Personally I think it makes much more sense to stick with lower power and lower cost A series chips for the non-Air non-Pro iPads.
I don't buy that at all. Remember they've actually separated out iPadOS from iOS. Most of us would of course like to see more progress on the iPadOS front, but remember that iPadOS and macOS come from different origins, and their functionality reflects that. Apple seems to be taking a somewhat conservative development approach to iPadOS, but is slowly expanding its functionality, while trying to avoid the bloat of macOS.
Alternative to my feeling that there will be no price hike is that the bump the spec to 256GB base, and bump the price up by whatever dollar amount they needed to offset the screen plus some juicy profit. 128GB would cost Apple about.....10$. And that is street prices for memory today (quite inflated over last year and the year before when pricing would have been locked in by Tim Apple's boys). Apple's purchase price would likely be WAY lower that. Pure profit.
It's a strange one isn't it... in the last few years storage and RAM have dropped to insignificant prices, to the point where we could all enjoy tons of each, yet the likes of Apple still pretend they have value and artificially restrict them using ridiculously low amounts in base models, while charging an arm and a leg for upgrades.
Its more about the fact that half this site now seems to be refuting rumors that have been posted by this site. At least my comments don't seem to get deleted as much as they used to for "off topic" comments, but I trust the rumors here a lot less then I did a few years ago.
Ipad pros: enough brightness (nits) to make your eyes bleed who does that high of ratio? In direct sun maybe.
Refresh=120 HZ.
OLED dual pane new stuff and I don't think apple would invest in something that is going to burn out in less than 5 years as you normally get 8 years more or less out of an iPad on LEDs. Too much negative about this and half truths.
M3 better graphics will be better and every thing computer wise.
But is OLED end all be all in screen viewing satisfaction?
On the fence. As far as price hike say it cost more then sell for less.
We got a bargain before its even on the market forsale. Makes it seem like a deal before the deal is done.
Great marketing. Oh this is so Mac-rumors. gj..
Refresh=120 HZ.
OLED dual pane new stuff and I don't think apple would invest in something that is going to burn out in less than 5 years as you normally get 8 years more or less out of an iPad on LEDs. Too much negative about this and half truths.
M3 better graphics will be better and every thing computer wise.
But is OLED end all be all in screen viewing satisfaction?
On the fence. As far as price hike say it cost more then sell for less.
We got a bargain before its even on the market forsale. Makes it seem like a deal before the deal is done.
Great marketing. Oh this is so Mac-rumors. gj..
That's not the point of high nits. We're not talking about an all white web pages on a screen cranked up to maximum brightness. In fact, if for example you're doing just text entry all day in an office, you might want to set up your screen at 120 nits or something like that.
Instead, for high dynamic range content, we can have a very dark scene but with very bright highlights, but with detail still present in those highlights. Or we may have a blue sky with clouds with detail in the clouds, that you would not otherwise be able to resolve if the screen maxed out at say 500 nits.
With a screen that can't go as bright you have two main options when dealing with very bright highlights:
1. After a certain point - the screen's max brightness - all whites are the same. Bright and brighter are all displayed the same as a sea of white, because everything above the max of the screen is clipped.
2. Whites can be re-mapped on a gradient to be not as bright, so bright is a little darker and brighter is near the max that the screen can display, but the problem here is a lot of whites show up more as bright greys.
This is not a high nits image, but I'm using it as an example to illustrate a point:
You could design a scene where a highlight is say 1000 nits, but with parts 500 nits and parts 750 nits and parts 1000 nits. However, the overall scene is quite dark because most of the image is dark. A 1000 nit OLED screen would be able to show the true blacks as actual true blacks, but would also be able to differentiate the details at 500 vs. 750 vs. 1000 nits in bright highlights. OTOH, a 500 nit screen that clips whites would show all those highlights at the same 500 nits with no differences between them. Or if you didn't want to clip whites on that 500 nits screen, you could remap the whites to show more detail, up to that 500 nits maximum.
Here you can see that with the screen that maxes out at 400 nits, not only does the remapped white look grey, it also shows less shirt detail than the 650 nits screen.
Sony used to master its movies to 1000 nits. Such content would look best on a 1000 nit screen, even if the average brightness is only say 100-200 nits. However, I believe going forward Sony will be mastering their movies to 4000 nits. And some video games are already mastered to 10000 nits.
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If Apple does that, they're going to have a challenging time increasing iPad sales.
iPad series are seriously over-valued by Apple. If it can not be expand or used as PC, then why would they need to make tons of iPad series for? Totally meaningless. Since iPad Pro is far from replacing PC based on what they advertised, perhaps it's time to kill some iPad series and shrink its uses. Otherwise, it will kill Mac for sure.
I have a 128 m2 iPad Pro 11 that I use for work. I can’t store any of my work files on it due to privacy policies. I use to connect to my work via workspace. I saved at least $100 buying the 128gb model. Just saying that there is a place for it for some people.
It depends on whether you mean can an iPad fully replace a pc or if you mean can a person who uses a pc perform equivalent functions on an iPad. Most people from what I’ve seen here use the latter definition.
And some of use the primary as a media viewer (my wife and I) and others use them primarily as a means to take notes with an Apple Pencil (my daughter). iPadOS is just too limiting, to use them as a PC surrogate anywhere.