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2028 thats so far away…
I have old touchscreen lenovo notebook with windows.
It reminds me that it is touchscreen when wiping dust off, this is my use case.
 
No clue why everyone's so hyped about OLED. It's an inferior technology for laptops compared to Mini LED. I've had multiple experiences of using a Macbook just fine for 8-10 years, and I know other people who've had the same. That won't be happening with an OLED Macbook. Eventually the screen is going to look like garbage. It'll get burn-in, or one color is going to degrade faster than the others, or they're all going to degrade... LED-based screens, on the other hand, last forever.

The technology is fine for semi-disposable devices, but for something we should expect longevity out of it just isn't. Very sad to see Apple going in this direction.

You need to think like an MBA. They want a product that self-destructs just after the warrantee runs out. A five year life is just fine for Apple's bottom line.

Screen savers may become popular again. Flying Toasters may be back.

I've seen differing comments about the brightness of OLED. Are they brighter (and therefore better in outdoor daylight use) than LED or not? Easier to read in the sun or even in the shade that what I have now would be good.
 
Save the Notch!! Give me a Dynamic Island!!!

Not sure the rumored punch hole or possibly Dynamic Island is preferable.
A Dynamic Island on a Mac makes no sense. Notifications are housed on the upper right corner of the screen, and command menus on the upper left spanning towards the center of the menu bar. A Dynamic Island with Live Activity indicators sitting in the center of the menu bar, potentially mingled among command menus, when all other status icons are right-flush would be a terrible UI decision.
 
I've seen differing comments about the brightness of OLED. Are they brighter (and therefore better in outdoor daylight use) than LED or not? Easier to read in the sun or even in the shade that what I have now would be good.
The tandem OLEDs Apple uses in the M4 iPad Pros do get brighter than standard LCD screens, but they're about the same brightness as the Mini LED screens used in M1/M2 iPad Pro 12.9s and M1+ MacBook Pros. They should also degrade slower than a single-sheet OLED, but they will degrade. It's just inherent to the technology.

Mini LED also offers contrast ratios pretty close to OLED, and contrast ratio is really the only thing OLED has going for it.

Tandem OLEDs are more expensive than single-sheet ones, of course, so no clue if Apple will actually use them for the MacBook Air.
 
The problem is that they will degrade the UI in order to accommodate it (arguably they already started with that), just like Microsoft did, and people will be affected by it even if they use macOS on a non-touchscreen device or with a desktop monitor.

If their intent was to merge iOS and MacOS all along, Apple has had probably a decade or so to do it. Yet they seem to not commit fully and so instead we a pointless UI reskin in Glass.
 
I don’t think that touchscreen is meant to be the main way of interacting with the device like this. It’s probably most likely similar to how I interact with my iPad when it’s on the magic keyboard. Every now and then I might press the screen to select something in AutoCorrect or drag something, but otherwise it’s mostly the trackpad.
 
~2028 MacBook Air getting OLED is fine. I'm sure 2028 OLEDs will be fine. A 2025 OLED might not have been brighter, but it likely will be by then.

Hopefully it will come with 120Hz Pro Motion too.

I guess Apple just needs to put it off until then for the sake of margins and product segmentation.
 
No clue why everyone's so hyped about OLED. It's an inferior technology for laptops compared to Mini LED…
I kinda agree. Mini LED on the MBP has thus far been fantastic. (well, I did burn out one of the backlights on my M1 when cleaning it too aggressively, but otherwise awesome.)

It's remarkable that the Studio Display didn't ship with Mini LED. I use one side-by-side with my MBP and it just looks like ass. I guess they were more concerned with stupid camera tricks that nobody cares about.
 
A Dynamic Island on a Mac makes no sense.

It depends on how it's used, IMHO. Having it update sports scores, flight status, etc. without the annoying notifications popping up on the upper left would be useful, for me. ideally it could be disabled and the MB act like it does today as well.

Nobody is going to force you to use a touch screen.

If they do go that route, I hope they make it optional rather than rolling in the cost on all machines. That way, those that want it can pay to upgrade, much as some screens are done today. It would also give Apple an idea of the actual demand for touchscreens.
 
If they do go that route, I hope they make it optional rather than rolling in the cost on all machines. That way, those that want it can pay to upgrade, much as some screens are done today. It would also give Apple an idea of the actual demand for touchscreens.
Way more likely Apple will add it to everything, think it adds to the value proposition and justifies their margins more.
 
Touchscreens on MacBooks seem kind of pointless to me. But if adding them means Apple finally improves the screen coating on MacBook Airs to resist those annoying permanent smudges, then I’m all for it. I can wipe oil off my iPad screen no problem after heavy use, but both my MacBook Air and Pro have marks that just won't come off.
 
As does the rest of the screen at the top 😂
Which means you have exactly as much screen real estate as you did on the pre-notch macbooks. If you really think the pre-notch machines were better then, congrats, that’s what that gives you
 
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I wouldn't buy any OLED laptop because of burn in. It's an inherent limitation of the technology and it's going to happen sooner or later despite the mitigation techniques.

There are way too many static elements on screen on computers.
 
If their intent was to merge iOS and MacOS all along, Apple has had probably a decade or so to do it. Yet they seem to not commit fully and so instead we a pointless UI reskin in Glass.
They're afraid of the backlash after they publicly made fun of Windows 8 for modifying their UI for touch. That's why they're going for yearly incremental changes, aka the boiling the frog in warm water method
 
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